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Post#81 » by DayofMourning » Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:35 am

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DayofMourning wrote:Was watching YouTube and ran across a Giannis vs AD video from this past year. No matter the success we had against Yanis, he's built to destroy other teams and stop AD from shooting 90% on mid range jumpers against us.


If he's not stopping Lebby and shooting sub-30% outside of 5 feet we'd still have a sizeable gap(of error) to overcome to be competitive (with Lakers)


Yanis actually shoots around 40% outside of layups and dunks. He obviously could stand to get a bit better. His defense would save us though. You play him and Bam together and you're about as tough as it gets on D from mid range to the post. That would help a lot against AD.
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Post#82 » by RonaldSeikaly » Fri Nov 27, 2020 3:07 am

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3ballbomber wrote:Players now calling out Bucks FO. . .

Cld Giannis possibly ask to be traded?

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I'm not the biggest Giannis fan outchea but didn't the Bucks just throw a kitchen sink to get the best PG they could get via trade???

Bobdanovich is nice, but he's pretty redundant with Middleton and his numbers/impact will be diminished playing alongside Giannis, Jrue, and Middleton. He would have been the 4th best player at best (maybe 15ppg at most with better efficiency?). Hardly a difference maker to me :dontknow:

If you had the best record in NBA and won the MVP 2 years in a row, then it's up to the back to back MVP to take that team to the promise land. All this whiny weak stuff has been coming out of the media rn about Giannis hopefully it's just media being dramatic and stirring up drama and nothing else. He has enough and he has had enough for a few seasons just STFU and get to the ECF at least before crying about not having enough help :dontknow: I think I'm just tired of the media coverage not necessarily Giannis himself (who doesn't publicly say much).

He admired Bogdanovich? He was more impressed how Heat gave Bam supermax than not? so much garbage storyline LMAO

To the extent that superstars are part GM, Giannis is really bad at it. He may be trying to account for the fact that it’s old Milwaukee, but like Lebron 10years ago,Giannis needs to go somewhere and learn how to really win.


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Post#83 » by 3ballbomber » Fri Nov 27, 2020 3:36 am

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Post#84 » by 3ballbomber » Fri Nov 27, 2020 3:48 am

DayofMourning wrote:Was watching YouTube and ran across a Giannis vs AD video from this past year. No matter the success we had against Yanis, he's built to destroy other teams and stop AD from shooting 90% on mid range jumpers against us.

AD ate all day on mid ranges, boards & dunks. Giannis wld provide that length & pressure to not only keep Davis honest on O but also make him work harder on D. AD had an easy path to the mickey mouse title w/ no real resistance match up wise. Giannis wld have been our Davis buster. Even w/ no Goran & a hobbled Bam, we take down LA w/ Giannis, period!
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Post#85 » by RexBoyWonder » Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:27 am

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Post#86 » by Bishop45 » Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:10 am

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DayofMourning wrote:Was watching YouTube and ran across a Giannis vs AD video from this past year. No matter the success we had against Yanis, he's built to destroy other teams and stop AD from shooting 90% on mid range jumpers against us.

AD ate all day on mid ranges, boards & dunks. Giannis wld provide that length & pressure to not only keep Davis honest on O but also make him work harder on D. AD had an easy path to the mickey mouse title w/ no real resistance match up wise. Giannis wld have been our Davis buster. Even w/ no Goran & a hobbled Bam, we take down LA w/ Giannis, period!


Cultish fantasy; Giannis couldn't stop Jimmy or Bam but he's going to shut down AD? AD guarded Jimmy for a better part of the series, but he can't guard Giannis? Whom we were able to guard effectively with a combination of lesser defenders? The Giannis revisionism reminds of Russ fans of yesteryear, he's good but y'all always take it too far
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Post#87 » by 3ballbomber » Fri Nov 27, 2020 10:54 am

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DayofMourning wrote:Was watching YouTube and ran across a Giannis vs AD video from this past year. No matter the success we had against Yanis, he's built to destroy other teams and stop AD from shooting 90% on mid range jumpers against us.

AD ate all day on mid ranges, boards & dunks. Giannis wld provide that length & pressure to not only keep Davis honest on O but also make him work harder on D. AD had an easy path to the mickey mouse title w/ no real resistance match up wise. Giannis wld have been our Davis buster. Even w/ no Goran & a hobbled Bam, we take down LA w/ Giannis, period!


Cultish fantasy; Giannis couldn't stop Jimmy or Bam but he's going to shut down AD? AD guarded Jimmy for a better part of the series, but he can't guard Giannis? Whom we were able to guard effectively with a combination of lesser defenders? The Giannis revisionism reminds of Russ fans of yesteryear, he's good but y'all always take it too far

I'm not going to get into what Giannis does in Milwaukee - no stats, no match ups, wins/loss...nada. Milwaukee ain't us. Far from it. If Giannis played under Spo, in our system, in our culture, our organization, i'm fairly certain he would have accomplished even more than what he has....if not, perhaps, already have a title under his belt. Evidently, & w/ recent trade bungles, Milwaukee isn't exactly Miami in regards to the way we do things. this has hurt Giannis as it jeopardized his chances for a championship.

We were the one who knocked him out....1st seed going down by a 5th seed! That's our coaching, our culture, our players, our hunger, our dogs! So yes abso-phuking-lutely, if he played w/ us, not only wld he improve here (scary just thinking about it), like the players before him, but he wld have certainly helped us eliminate lebolt & crew.

I nvr said AD couldn't guard him, i said it wld keep AD honest on D. He had it easy guarding a 6'7" guy & then nobody matching his length on the offensive end. Imagine How much tougher it wld have been for LA, considering it took them 6 games to eliminate us, if we had Giannis to keep AD occupied on both ends. Takes a massive load off Jimmy especially.

Giannis presence on the floor for LA wld be equivalent to the pressure we felt when ever AD was on.

lol why do you think Pat's end game is 2021? We bringing it back to land Rudy Gobert? We after the whale in Giannis! that's who Pat wants. If you want to unedrestimate how deadly we wld be w/ Giannis along side Bam, Jimmy & our snipers then you're not on the same page as this organization. What ever his failures in Milwaukee will not be mirrored here w/ us. We wld maxamize his skillset rather than letting it be the team & his own downfall.

A player like him is key to us being that generational, dynasty team Riles has been speaking about.
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Post#88 » by Bishop45 » Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:43 am

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3ballbomber wrote:AD ate all day on mid ranges, boards & dunks. Giannis wld provide that length & pressure to not only keep Davis honest on O but also make him work harder on D. AD had an easy path to the mickey mouse title w/ no real resistance match up wise. Giannis wld have been our Davis buster. Even w/ no Goran & a hobbled Bam, we take down LA w/ Giannis, period!


Cultish fantasy; Giannis couldn't stop Jimmy or Bam but he's going to shut down AD? AD guarded Jimmy for a better part of the series, but he can't guard Giannis? Whom we were able to guard effectively with a combination of lesser defenders? The Giannis revisionism reminds of Russ fans of yesteryear, he's good but y'all always take it too far

I'm not going to get into what Giannis does in Milwaukee - no stats, no match ups, wins/loss...nada. Milwaukee ain't us. Far from it. If Giannis played under Spo, in our system, in our culture, our organization, i'm fairly certain he would have accomplished even more than what he has....if not, perhaps, already have a title under his belt. Evidently, & w/ recent trade bungles, Milwaukee isn't exactly Miami in regards to the way we do things. this has hurt Giannis as it jeopardized his chances for a championship.

We were the one who knocked him out....1st seed going down by a 5th seed! That's our coaching, our culture, our players, our hunger, our dogs! So yes abso-phuking-lutely, if he played w/ us, not only wld he improve here (scary just thinking about it), like the players before him, but he wld have certainly helped us eliminate lebolt & crew.

I nvr said AD couldn't guard him, i said it wld keep AD honest on D. He had it easy guarding a 6'7" guy & then nobody matching his length on the offensive end. Imagine How much tougher it wld have been for LA, considering it took them 6 games to eliminate us, if we had Giannis to keep AD occupied on both ends. Takes a massive load off Jimmy especially.

Giannis presence on the floor for LA wld be equivalent to the pressure we felt when ever AD was on.

lol why do you think Pat's end game is 2021? We bringing it back to land Rudy Gobert? We after the whale in Giannis! that's who Pat wants. If you want to unedrestimate how deadly we wld be w/ Giannis along side Bam, Jimmy & our snipers then you're not on the same page as this organization. What ever his failures in Milwaukee will not be mirrored here w/ us. We wld maxamize his skillset rather than letting it be the team & his own downfall.

A player like him is key to us being that generational, dynasty team Riles has been speaking about.


Yea', see, this rant here= cultish fantasy

That first seed lost to a fifth seed in large part because their number 1 guy can't shoot and it's a handicap to them every year. No injuries, just brute reality. Nearly swept. Lost 4 straight to a lesser team the year before as well.

Our 'snipers' could barely get a shot off versus the Lakers, but replacing one of them with Giannis is going to reboot our offense. Oh, I get it.
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Post#89 » by 3ballbomber » Fri Nov 27, 2020 12:11 pm

You can disagree all ya want, the view is supported by the Heat. Giannis is the masterplan. It's as simple as that.
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Post#90 » by Bishop45 » Fri Nov 27, 2020 12:40 pm

You don't have any details of a master plan outside of the fact that we're pursuing Giannis. No one's disagreeing with that.

The idea that Giannis can come tommorow and not only fix all our problems, but beat the Lakers is far from perceivable reality is all I was telling you.
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Post#91 » by DayofMourning » Fri Nov 27, 2020 1:50 pm

Giannis, Bam, Achiuwa, Okpala, Butler, Avery, Harkless, Eboua. Thats pretty impressive defense. Can't imagine trading Robinson and Herro for Giannis though. We wouldn't have a single shooter left. Those two are pretty elite from my view and not easily replaceable.
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Post#92 » by 3ballbomber » Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:24 am

Bishop45 wrote:You don't have any details of a master plan outside of the fact that we're pursuing Giannis. No one's disagreeing with that.

The idea that Giannis can come tommorow and not only fix all our problems, but beat the Lakers is far from perceivable reality is all I was telling you.

We''ve made it an obligation in positioning ourselves to acquire Giannis. That's what we know & most important. Who's concerned much w/ anything outside of that.

Nobody has said he'd address all our issues. Against that LA Roster w/ Length he wld have helped tremendously. It's obviously speculation but IMO we beat LA. You don't need to agree. Again we wouldn't be getting the same Giannis,

He'd play in our system. We improve him as a player & in turn he helps improve our team. We win a Championship. That's my faith in this team in general w/ him added.....not some 'cultish mentality' nonsense w/ Giannis.
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DayofMourning wrote:Was watching YouTube and ran across a Giannis vs AD video from this past year. No matter the success we had against Yanis, he's built to destroy other teams and stop AD from shooting 90% on mid range jumpers against us.


If he's not stopping Lebby and shooting sub-30% outside of 5 feet we'd still have a sizeable gap(of error) to overcome to be competitive (with Lakers)

I disagree Bish. The Lakers are still Lebby or bust. The second he starts to show some signs of decline their window is closed. The Heat with Giannis would be facing a 37 yr old LeBron who was nearing 38.
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DayofMourning wrote:Was watching YouTube and ran across a Giannis vs AD video from this past year. No matter the success we had against Yanis, he's built to destroy other teams and stop AD from shooting 90% on mid range jumpers against us.


If he's not stopping Lebby and shooting sub-30% outside of 5 feet we'd still have a sizeable gap(of error) to overcome to be competitive (with Lakers)

I disagree Bish. The Lakers are still Lebby or bust. The second he starts to show some signs of decline their window is closed. The Heat with Giannis would be facing a 37 yr old LeBron who was nearing 38.

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Post#95 » by Bishop45 » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:12 am

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DayofMourning wrote:Was watching YouTube and ran across a Giannis vs AD video from this past year. No matter the success we had against Yanis, he's built to destroy other teams and stop AD from shooting 90% on mid range jumpers against us.


If he's not stopping Lebby and shooting sub-30% outside of 5 feet we'd still have a sizeable gap(of error) to overcome to be competitive (with Lakers)

I disagree Bish. The Lakers are still Lebby or bust. The second he starts to show some signs of decline their window is closed. The Heat with Giannis would be facing a 37 yr old LeBron who was nearing 38.


As Iggs posted, it's a wait and see deal with Lenny's decline, the greats are just different. I understand what Dom was trying to do/say with his post, but there's just way too many factors to preclude to make a serious assessment two years into the future. Both Jimmy and Bron could be declining, and neither team in the finals. There's just no way to know right now.

Dom was talking about a scenario in which all things were equal to what they were a few weeks ago and we had Giannis. In that scenario I think our offense is even more hit than it was and Lakers still ride an easy victory. As Rex put it, we would be the worse spacing team in the league, and unless the league rescinded the charging rules it would still be very hard for us to score.
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Post#96 » by wadenation305 » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:11 pm

Bron would probably walk away from the game if he starts seeing his own offensive decline. Wade is not around cause he was a lot small (more physical toll on his body) and let go of the nutrition program in his later years. While LeBron probably sleeps with cold masks on.
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If he's not stopping Lebby and shooting sub-30% outside of 5 feet we'd still have a sizeable gap(of error) to overcome to be competitive (with Lakers)

I disagree Bish. The Lakers are still Lebby or bust. The second he starts to show some signs of decline their window is closed. The Heat with Giannis would be facing a 37 yr old LeBron who was nearing 38.

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Your 100% right. The person I would be more worried about is Butler and age. In the biggest game of his life, he scored a whopping 12 points. Not 12 points a quarter, or 12 points a half but the whole game. Butler is the one we need to worry about.
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Post#100 » by IggieCC » Sun Nov 29, 2020 4:07 am

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QUIZ wrote:I disagree Bish. The Lakers are still Lebby or bust. The second he starts to show some signs of decline their window is closed. The Heat with Giannis would be facing a 37 yr old LeBron who was nearing 38.

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Your 100% right. The person I would be more worried about is Butler and age. In the biggest game of his life, he scored a whopping 12 points. Not 12 points a quarter, or 12 points a half but the whole game. Butler is the one we need to worry about.

I expect Butler to be fine for the next 2-3 years, definitely the next 2 before his productivity drops off a bit. What we can't expect is playing him 45+ mins and outplaying LeBron 4 games in the Finals.

He's no spring chicken and is somewhat prone to injuries so the team needs to be careful with his usage. Hopefully everyone else stays healthy too and the team can get some extra help.
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