Roster moves in off-season.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

I highly doubt that. Herro gave us 20 points/game this year. Having him as your 3rd scorer is a championship team.

He’s one of the worst defenders in the league, the team is terrible when he’s on the court regardless of his scoring, and he’s been unplayable in the playoffs since the 2020 ECF. He’s not good but he’s young and has trade value.

Over glorified Jordan Clarkson

Inefficient scoring at that. Not to mention it gets even worse when he starts

Maybe we can trick one of these white markets like Indiana, Utah, or OKC into Herro. Pretty much everyone else knows his severe limitations. May as well keep him as we are completely devoid of scoring as is anyway.

That’s why you trade him for a legit scorer. He’s not Tony to be here, Riley will not max him.

Those 3 teams work for me.

Utah: Mitchell
OKC: SGA
Pacers: Brogdon Buddy and/or Turner

[greg4012]

Aside from those stars, if we want a big athletic player that can shoot and rebound next to Bam I like Bamba as the top priority there but looking at guys like Jalen Smith, O’Shea Brissett, PJ Washington, Hartenstein. Bamba would be the best fit on both sides

I used to roll my eyes at the mention of Bamba because he was an unskilled big with no offensive role that had all the tools to be elite defensively, but seemed lost (I was mostly concerned about timeline fit). After seeing his growth as a shooter this season, I'm all in on the idea of bringing in Bamba to serve as our Brook Lopez/Robert Williams next to Bam.

Bamba averaged 4 3PA per game this season and hit them at a 38% clip. He has a 7'10 wingspan (I believe the longest in the NBA among active players) and is mobile enough to survive for stints on the perimeter. He's young and still has huge upside.

With that said, Wendell Carter seems to be the present and future center for the Orlando Magic. They have Franz Wagner and Jonathan Isaac that are both really PFs (but spend time at SF) and they have the #1 pick in the upcoming draft, where all top options are PF/C prospects.

I believe Bamba is a RFA:

Magic center Mohamed Bamba has an interesting summer ahead of him. Orlando will have to tender the former No. 6 pick in the 2018 NBA draft a $10.1MM one-year qualifying offer this summer for him to reach restricted free agency — otherwise he will become an unrestricted free agent.

I wonder what happens here and what the market for him would be. We need to be active in capitalizing on opportunity.

Bamba's solid 3 point shooting unlocks a potential lethal fit next to Bam. Bamba can primarily function as a paint protector (paired with covering one corner 3 spot should teams go 5 out). By keeping him on the weakside and defending along hte baseline, we can protect him from being hunted on perimeter switches (much like Boston does with Robert Williams and MIL does with Brook Lopez). That 7'10 wingspan and his athleticism should result in no issue protecting the rim and also closing out on the corner 3. Bam can then be fully deployed to shutdown the perimeter and our rebounding would get a big boost. It really makes too much sense.

Make all of Lowry, Herro, Duncan, Yurt, and picks available for any trade involving the likes of Donovan Mitchell or Lillard and catch that whale.

Re-sign Oladipo to be next year's 6MOTY and go to work with a revampled lineup ready to compete with anyone.

[DayofMourning]

A Kyrie, Oladipo, Butler, Bam, actual center lineup does look better.

We can't just continue to have scoring droughts every series. We shot 38% from 3 in the RS then shot 30% in the postseason. We don't get into good rhythms offensively and we need a scorer we can rally around.

[greg4012]

Size wasn't this teams problem, lack of talent, offensive talent was

our size and mobility on defense might have been what has gotten us this far, even though folks hate it

The fixation some fans have with thinking adding size is the answer for every issue is equally hilarious and obnoxious. THere are ways to add size that would functionally help, but those options are limited and far from a cure all

[SoFlaKingReal]

He’s one of the worst defenders in the league, the team is terrible when he’s on the court regardless of his scoring, and he’s been unplayable in the playoffs since the 2020 ECF. He’s not good but he’s young and has trade value.

Over glorified Jordan Clarkson

Inefficient scoring at that. Not to mention it gets even worse when he starts

Maybe we can trick one of these white markets like Indiana, Utah, or OKC into Herro. Pretty much everyone else knows his severe limitations. May as well keep him as we are completely devoid of scoring as is anyway.

That’s why you trade him for a legit scorer. He’s not Tony to be here, Riley will not max him.

Those 3 teams work for me.

Utah: Mitchell
OKC: SGA
Pacers: Brogdon Buddy and/or Turner

Maybe we can trick them, but it would be a terrible trade for any of those teams. We would have to include multiple first round picks plus more for them to even consider.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Aside from those stars, if we want a big athletic player that can shoot and rebound next to Bam I like Bamba as the top priority there but looking at guys like Jalen Smith, O’Shea Brissett, PJ Washington, Hartenstein. Bamba would be the best fit on both sides

I used to roll my eyes at the mention of Bamba because he was an unskilled big with no offensive role that had all the tools to be elite defensively, but seemed lost (I was mostly concerned about timeline fit). After seeing his growth as a shooter this season, I'm all in on the idea of bringing in Bamba to serve as our Brook Lopez/Robert Williams next to Bam.

Bamba averaged 4 3PA per game this season and hit them at a 38% clip. He has a 7'10 wingspan (I believe the longest in the NBA among active players) and is mobile enough to survive for stints on the perimeter. He's young and still has huge upside.

With that said, Wendell Carter seems to be the present and future center for the Orlando Magic. They have Franz Wagner and Jonathan Isaac that are both really PFs (but spend time at SF) and they have the #1 pick in the upcoming draft, where all top options are PF/C prospects.

I believe Bamba is a RFA:

Magic center Mohamed Bamba has an interesting summer ahead of him. Orlando will have to tender the former No. 6 pick in the 2018 NBA draft a $10.1MM one-year qualifying offer this summer for him to reach restricted free agency — otherwise he will become an unrestricted free agent.

I wonder what happens here and what the market for him would be. We need to be active in capitalizing on opportunity.

Bamba's solid 3 point shooting unlocks a potential lethal fit next to Bam. Bamba can primarily function as a paint protector (paired with covering one corner 3 spot should teams go 5 out). By keeping him on the weakside and defending along hte baseline, we can protect him from being hunted on perimeter switches (much like Boston does with Robert Williams and MIL does with Brook Lopez). That 7'10 wingspan and his athleticism should result in no issue protecting the rim and also closing out on the corner 3. Bam can then be fully deployed to shutdown the perimeter and our rebounding would get a big boost. It really makes too much sense.

Make all of Lowry, Herro, Duncan, Yurt, and picks available for any trade involving the likes of Donovan Mitchell or Lillard and catch that whale.

Re-sign Oladipo to be next year's 6MOTY and go to work with a revampled lineup ready to compete with anyone.

This is the way, 100%.

Bring me Dame Kyrie or Mitchell and Bamba.

[greg4012]

The teams with a future right now are all being led by a homegrown stud....Curry, Luka, Booker, Jokic, Giannis, Embiid, Tatum.

Im sure i forgot someone, but until we find our next homegrown stud, this is the awful roster we will be dealing with.

You have issues dude

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Maybe we can trick one of these white markets like Indiana, Utah, or OKC into Herro. Pretty much everyone else knows his severe limitations. May as well keep him as we are completely devoid of scoring as is anyway.

That’s why you trade him for a legit scorer. He’s not Tony to be here, Riley will not max him.

Those 3 teams work for me.

Utah: Mitchell
OKC: SGA
Pacers: Brogdon Buddy and/or Turner

Maybe we can trick them, but it would be a terrible trade for any of those teams. We would have to include multiple first round picks plus more for them to even consider.

Yep to get stars you have to unload picks. That’s fine with me

[SoFlaKingReal]

The teams with a future right now are all being led by a homegrown stud....Curry, Luka, Booker, Jokic, Giannis, Embiid, Tatum.

Im sure i forgot someone, but until we find our next homegrown stud, this is the awful roster we will be dealing with.

You have issues dude

That may be so, but what did I say that isn't correct?

If we were smart enough to draft Booker instead of Winslow....we would be dominant.

[DayofMourning]

Size wasn't this teams problem, lack of talent, offensive talent was

our size and mobility on defense might have been what has gotten us this far, even though folks hate it

The fixation some fans have with thinking adding size is the answer for every issue is equally hilarious and obnoxious. THere are ways to add size that would functionally help, but those options are limited and far from a cure all

I'd rather go for a more traditional defensive philosophy rather than hyper switching as we have past their prime players accounting for big roles on this team. Butler had a knee injury. Lowry had a hamstring injury. PJ had an assortment of injuries. That's 3 starters you could look at and say they were overworked on defense. Tyler gets a groin injury as well. You push your body too far and injuries pop up at the worst times. Feels like this playoffs was an obvious indicator of how taxing our defense can be on our guys.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

The teams with a future right now are all being led by a homegrown stud....Curry, Luka, Booker, Jokic, Giannis, Embiid, Tatum.

Im sure i forgot someone, but until we find our next homegrown stud, this is the awful roster we will be dealing with.

You have issues dude

That may be so, but what did I say that isn't correct?

If we were smart enough to draft Booker instead of Winslow....we would be dominant.

We wouldn’t have the same team

[SoFlaKingReal]

You have issues dude

That may be so, but what did I say that isn't correct?

If we were smart enough to draft Booker instead of Winslow....we would be dominant.

We wouldn’t have the same team

All that would matter is we would have Booker and Butler. It would not be difficult to form a supporting cast as productive as the G-League heros and overpaid bums we have now.

[greg4012]

Size wasn't this teams problem, lack of talent, offensive talent was

our size and mobility on defense might have been what has gotten us this far, even though folks hate it

The fixation some fans have with thinking adding size is the answer for every issue is equally hilarious and obnoxious. THere are ways to add size that would functionally help, but those options are limited and far from a cure all

I'd rather go for a more traditional defensive philosophy rather than hyper switching as we have past their prime players accounting for big roles on this team. Butler had a knee injury. Lowry had a hamstring injury. PJ had an assortment of injuries. That's 3 starters you could look at and say they were overworked on defense. Tyler gets a groin injury as well. You push your body too far and injuries pop up at the worst times. Feels like this playoffs was an obvious indicator of how taxing our defense can be on our guys.

If you want to win it all you have to overwork on defense. We definitely could be well served being less switch-prone all season and being able to mix in more coverages, but in the modern NBA being able to switch as a defense is one of the most foundational elements for playoff success. Just look at the 2 teams in the finals (and the 4 teams that were in the conference finals). It's not a coincidence. It's a requirement.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

If we had Booker we probably don’t have Bam and I know you PPG merchants love scoring but Bam is a better all around player than Booker for the same reasons he’s a far better player than Herro. Give Bam 21 shots a night and a 32% usage like Booker and look at the numbers he’s putting up lmao.

[SoFlaKingReal]

If we had Booker we probably don’t have Bam and I know you PPG merchants love scoring but Bam is a better all around player than Booker for the same reasons he’s a far better player than Herro. Give Bam 21 shots a night and a 32% usage like Booker and look at the numbers he’s putting up lmao.

You sure we wouldnt ship out Bam for Booker right now if given the chance? How many on this forum would?

[greg4012]

The teams with a future right now are all being led by a homegrown stud....Curry, Luka, Booker, Jokic, Giannis, Embiid, Tatum.

Im sure i forgot someone, but until we find our next homegrown stud, this is the awful roster we will be dealing with.

You have issues dude

That may be so, but what did I say that isn't correct?

If we were smart enough to draft Booker instead of Winslow....we would be dominant.

Nonsense isn't always right or wrong, it's just useless noise. So I wouldn't say most of what you're commenting is right or wrong, just useless noise.

BUT, one thing that is quite clearly wrong that you stated is that we have an "awful roster". LOL

1 seed in East and a few free throws (and/or less terrible officiating) from being in the Finals is pretty far from awful.

Maybe take a breather

[SoFlaKingReal]

Butler is amazing, Bam is very useful. After that.....not sure who is worth a damn.

[Flash4thewin]

Maybe we can trick one of these white markets like Indiana, Utah, or OKC into Herro. Pretty much everyone else knows his severe limitations. May as well keep him as we are completely devoid of scoring as is anyway.

That’s why you trade him for a legit scorer. He’s not Tony to be here, Riley will not max him.

Those 3 teams work for me.

Utah: Mitchell
OKC: SGA
Pacers: Brogdon Buddy and/or Turner

Maybe we can trick them, but it would be a terrible trade for any of those teams. We would have to include multiple first round picks plus more for them to even consider.

Those target are not realistic at all. At least the first two are not for sure. The Pacers who knows?

[3ammy3uck3ts]

9th best offense in the playoffs, 3rd best defense

12th best offense in the regular season, 4th best defense

Defense isn’t the area to improve, offense is. Get a legit scorer in here in place of that inefficient chucker Herro to take his 18 shots a night and 29% usage and this team will go to a whole other level.

Making a 2nd move for a guy like Bamba who would help defense offense and rebounding is also obviously a huge plus but we need a legit all star level scorer in for Herro.

We’d have the best record and be the most dominant team in the league, health permitting

[AirP.]

Spoiler:

Miami's probably not quitting small ball, but they can size up!

Consider this.
Lowry, Butler, Tucker and Bam all back.
Oladipo and Martin resigned.
Miami probably brings back Dedmon as the backup nonrotation center.
Miami then signs Dragic to a minimum.
Miami tries to retain Strus, Vincent and Yurtseven (if he stays, he gets good minutes as the backup 5).

If Miami can get a sizable 4 in trade or in the draft who can switch and shoot 3s, PJ Tucker can go to the bench to play the small ball 5 with Martin playing the small ball 4. If they need size Yurtseven goes to center, Tucker goes to the 4, Martin to the 3 all.

It could look like this...
PG - Lowry, Dragic, Vincent
SG - Oladipo, Vincent, Strus
SF - Butler, Strus, Martin
PF - New PF, Martin, Tucker
C - Bam, Tucker?, Yurtseven, Dedmon

I am expecting Butler to work on his 3s this summer and be a better off ball spacer next year to save his knees wear and tear. I expect a good to great year from Oladipo with an offseason for him to work more rust off and actually have Spoelstra build the offense/defense for next year utilizing Oladipo better.

Herro, Robinson, Highsmith, Vincent, Strus, Yurtseven this year's 1st round rights and 1 or 2 future 1sts could be utilized to strengthen this roster for a title run for the next 2-3 years.

This isnt it, like at all. You guys have to move on from Dragic, the answer is not adding another old injury prone guard to the roster. We need to move on from Dedmon too.

He's more useful then say... Highsmith. We're currently just 20 months away from Dragic being Miami's leading scorer in the playoffs up till he got hurt, do we really believe him in a more limited role wouldn't be helpful... AT THE MINIMUM? It's not like his game was built on speed, quickness or athletic ability, he's a tough high BBIQ player.

From what I just saw in the playoffs, Dragic off the bench for 10-15 minutes would have been very helpful.

I for one believe a vet who has been there and did that, even if they have lesser skills will be more effective then young guys who don't have playoff experience.

It's not always about who has the best players, it's also about who has the best lesser players on the court, sometimes it's nice to raise the floor because this Heat team minus Butler was pathetic on offense in the playoffs.