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Post#81 » by OooSplendiforous » Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:14 am

Mourning_Heat_33 wrote:Get real. Pat Riley is not trading for Curry, let alone making any trade with the dreadful Knicks. Miami already has Mark Blount who is averaging 15 ppg and 5.5 rpg as a starter. Curry is averaging 13.5 ppg and 4.5 rpg.

Plus the rumor was started by Sam Smith, who is a proven liar.

Miami didn't trade away Shaq to just start taking a bunch of risks on crap players like Eddy Freaking Curry. Sorry New York, but you are stuck with him. You have not one good player outside of that University of Florida guy (Lee?). Please stop trying to spread your problems to us. We are, thankfully, smarter than that.

As I said before, Blount is doing better than Curry and has a contract that is one year shorter and $11+ million cheaper. Blount is better than Curry in every foreseeable way. Even if terms of their styles, Blount (more finesse) is a much better fit with the Heat than Curry (more power). The center, although it is my favorite position, is a dying position. Shaq and Mourning are the only two true centers left*, and you can count how many seasons they have left on one hand.

You see, there's a difference between Pre-2006 (Shaq's last prime season) and Post-2006 (no centers left*). The 2006 playoffs was the last time we saw a true center* show consistent flashes of his prime (Shaq).

Just because Riley is regarded as someone who always made sure to have one of the great centers for whichever team he was coaching in whatever era he was coaching in, doesn't mean that holds true anymore. By trading Shaq for Marion, a 6'7 rebounding PF, that epitomizes the direction the NBA is heading in and it proves Riley is adapting.

*Note: Yes, Ming is, I suppose a center. And now we have Greg Oden coming in. Even if the bodies are there, the game has changed, and so has the position. Since about 2002 or so, rule changes and overarching changes in style have made the center position one that is almost impossible to have a player playing there who can lead a team or be a difference maker. The direction I think it is going in will be centers as role players. Marcus Camby, who as far as I remember was power forward in the 90s, is the epitome of a 21st century center: A glorified role player who rebounds, blocks a couple shots (if they are lucky), and has to defend the other team's star PF so the star PF of his team doesn't have to. He doesn't really have a star PF, but despite being a C now, he guards the other team's star PF usually. Also, notice how Yao Ming, despite being regarded as the best center, can't seem to escape the first round. Shouldn't being the best center (by far) at least get you to the conference finals? I'm interested to see how Oden does. I do not have high hopes unless he adjusts his game to the NBA pretty drastically.

PS- Why the hell did the Knicks beat us in 1999? That was supposed to be our year. Imagine PJ Brown and Zo, at the peaks of their primes, going against Robinson and Duncan. Damn that would have been fun and we could have given them a much better run for their money than the Knicks.

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oh just to refresh your memory the knicks beat you with Allan Houstons "RUNNING JUMPERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR...GOOD!" And also when Ewing had that nice spin move and dunk over 'Zo.
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Post#82 » by MartyConlonJr » Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:19 am

You know Swift got traded to NJ though right (not sure if you were meaning in a combined deal as they were both Memphis guys, or just meaning in general)? He can't be traded again this season. I also advocated Stromile back when we got Antoine Walker. I thought all we needed next to Shaq was a guy that could grab offensive boards and put/slam them back in (something Haslem struggles a bit with) and block shots. Unfortunately Stromile never quite got there and has a pretty low IQ.
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Post#83 » by miamivice » Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:24 am

rick bucher -- i know -- reiterated today that miami is trying to get him. this would be a total nightmare...
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Post#84 » by Fenix » Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:37 am

What about Chris Kaman, Dwight Howard and Andrew Bynum? Aren't they centres, too? Hell, you should also throw in guys like Biedrins. Together with Oden and Ming and the incoming influx of young centres (DeAndre Jordan, Hasheem Thabeet, Roy Hibbert,...) they'll form quite a formidable group. Centre position is far from dead. And they're all true centres.
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Post#85 » by GameTime_3 » Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:58 am

Jason williams and Mark Blount for Eddy Curry and Jerome James.

Why for Mia- We get Curry for Blount? Eddy Curry is only 25 years old and I think with riley and Wade, curry can become a above avg Center while doing this at under 10 million a Year.

Why for NY-Curry and Zach do not work! they rid them selfs of curry and get aplayer that respects his coach in blount. They rid them selfs of jerome james contact a year early!

Curry
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I for one kinda<like curry and i think he still can turn it around.
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Post#86 » by miamivice » Wed Feb 20, 2008 10:52 am

that three-way trade on the front page is atrocious...
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Post#87 » by Heatmagic84 » Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:41 am

For every nice thing said about Curry I seriously just tried to reach my hands through this monitor and choke their ass. And you're lucky gametime, because you were last to comment and I thought I had it figured out by then.

Someone point me in the direction of all these players that changed who they are so late in their career. Tell me how Riley is going to work this miracle and change a guy's demeanor that has already been in this business for 6 years?

I will tell you the only miracle worker for guys like Curry. A contract year. Nothing else. These bums just don't care. Jerome James. Does not care.

Riley is not going to sit on the shoulders of Curry with a burger on a string and whip him into shape mentally and physically.

Wake up and stop the panic. For all the **** Mitch Cupcake used to take he played his chips right by sitting back and being patient. Not grabbing every guy out just because he's available.
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Post#88 » by Vertical Limit » Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:13 pm

OooSplendiforous wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



oh just to refresh your memory the knicks beat you with Allan Houstons "RUNNING JUMPERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR...GOOD!" And also when Ewing had that nice spin move and dunk over 'Zo.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=28UJB1EJ9u4
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Post#89 » by pramis123 » Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:16 pm

I still say that if I am going to gamble on a young center, its going to be Darko with Memphis. I hope the Heat takes a good look at him, because I think he would be a good fit.
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Post#90 » by Vertical Limit » Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:18 pm

Curry is not only the worst Center in the league, but he is also the worst paid player in the league. There is no way you can experiment with that fat slob on that salary. Perhaps on the vet minimum, but on the salary he gets paid for? Get real.

Close this topic, it's not going to happen. Knicks' fans, DREAM ON.
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Post#91 » by Bayernfan » Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:35 pm

I dont want a guy who is fatter than Stan and Shaq combined.
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Post#92 » by OAKTREE NYK1 » Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:41 pm

I'd rather have no trade then to deal with Curry on the Heat. I just cant deal with this. I cant deal with seeing Curry on the Heat I just cant. If this trade happens I better not be close to a window.
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Post#93 » by OAKTREE NYK1 » Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:43 pm

I have heatburn this morning coming into work and seeing that we even remotely are thinking about Eddy Curry. Somebody please pass me a Nexium.
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Post#94 » by NBAMAN4LIFE » Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:01 pm

I dont see why you guys bash the guy so much.. He is only 25 years old younger than D-Wade... He can score the basketball and no one here can doubt that... Now his work ethic has been an issue in his career.. But we got Riles and if anyone can turn a player around its Pat Riley.. The guy avg 19 and 7 last year about the same production we got from shaq but 10 million cheaper.. I say pull the trigger on this one Riley !
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Post#95 » by heat4life » Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:09 pm

This transactions feels as good as when we signed Smush Parker over the summer. We don't like it so now we are trying to look at ANY positive we can from it.

Let me get it out there that I don't like however, if it happens for just JWill and we manage to get Curry and a draft pick back then it is a gamble that could have high rewards if Riles stays as coach for the next two seasons (which I think he will if the trade goes down) and very few negatives other than to have Curry on your books for another few years.

The truth is, he is only 25 and never been coached properly IMO. The magic that Miami's coaches have been able to do with less talented bigs is a plus. The thing that scares me is his passing. How good is a low post threat if he can't pass when double teamed? This could work since he wouldn't be the 1st option on this team. I am not sure Marion is a player you run plays for so I wouldn't call him our 2nd option, so I guess Curry would be that 2nd option. His lack of rebounding could be hidden by Haslem, Wright and Marion's rebounding ability.

Then again, what do I know. I onced looked at Smush Parker signing in a positive way as well.
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Post#96 » by HEATVols865 » Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:52 pm

If Riley does that deal...we lose Wade...mark my words.
While Curry's number do sound good, he's a bum!

If, and that's a big IF, we get him and IF (another big one) he plays to his potential...a lineup of Curry/Haslem/Marion/Wade/Rose, Mayo, Byars (spelling) would be a championship contender...but there are too many IFs there and I don't like it.
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Post#97 » by Hoops23 » Wed Feb 20, 2008 3:03 pm

From ESPN
Another source said there had been preliminary discussions on a three-way trade that would include, among other things, Carter going to the New York Knicks, Eddy Curry to Miami and the expiring contracts of Jason Williams and Ricky Davis to New Jersey.
Another crazy Curry trade!

Miami will ask for Randolph instead if they really like to make a move for a big man and Blounts contract included.
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Post#98 » by OH - IO » Wed Feb 20, 2008 3:37 pm

I would much rather make a move for Ben Wallace's contract then Curry's. We could probably get wallace and gordon or thomas for jwill and ricky davis. We might need to sweeten it but this makes much more sense to me. I know gordon plays the same game as wade and struggles on D but that would make much more sense than Curry!
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Post#99 » by heat4life » Wed Feb 20, 2008 3:44 pm

^^^^

The Bulls would have to be on crack to make a deal like that.
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Post#100 » by Immure » Wed Feb 20, 2008 3:50 pm

why not do the same trade to get JO then? carter for JO been rumored for quite some time now...
he's resting his injuries the remaining of the season so it wont affect our high pick hopes and in his worse year he averages what curry did in his best year....
a lot of us have been wanting to get brand this summer but thats uncertain, we currently have no cap, and brand might not even opt out he been injured all season, there's no way he gets max IMO....JO is in the same class as brand IMO and keeps our roster to keep a top 3 pick...
we send ricky, zo, williams, and smush or blount and receive JO in the 3 way deal rumored.... way better trade then being over the tax for curry...
with this trade we have a 6 11 center in JO even though he better suit as a PF but we at least keep haslem... our hopes for first pick are a lottery anyway so if we dont get it there's plenty of potential pG's in the draft, rose, bayless, gordon, mayo, augustine.....

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