Andrew Bynum

[Ratchet_Rio]

i'm interested to know how Riley and company can Know for sure Oden won't get hurt again....there's no way for them to know that

You dont play for the unknown. You trust the plan you've put into place and Riley and Co. obviously believe in the plan they've constructed for Oden. So when the time comes, I dont want to see any of these "no way I trust Oden" posters giving him praise when you counted him out before he even got a chance to prove himself.

like i dont wanna see you cry if oden goes down and we lose to the pacers. ok ?

I dont respect your opinion so dont quote me, thanks

[AlexCRO]

You dont play for the unknown. You trust the plan you've put into place and Riley and Co. obviously believe in the plan they've constructed for Oden. So when the time comes, I dont want to see any of these "no way I trust Oden" posters giving him praise when you counted him out before he even got a chance to prove himself.

like i dont wanna see you cry if oden goes down and we lose to the pacers. ok ?

I dont respect your opinion so dont quote me, thanks

i dont respect yours neither, just saying. yw

[Ratchet_Rio]

like i dont wanna see you cry if oden goes down and we lose to the pacers. ok ?

I dont respect your opinion so dont quote me, thanks

i dont respect yours neither, just saying. yw

I dont respect your opinon so dont quote me, thanks

[AlexCRO]

I dont respect your opinion so dont quote me, thanks

i dont respect yours neither, just saying. yw

I dont respect your opinon so dont quote me, thanks

i dont care about you and your homerism, everybody is entitled to their opinion...

[Gwynplaine]

People keep talking about him going to Indiana..

1. They don't want to take on anymore salary. They are absolutely super stingy. Why would they ever take him? The only reason this info is out there is because Indiana don't want us to get him.
2. He will have to share time between Hibbert and Mahinmi.. He's worse than both in their system (For defense).. The guy is looking to showcase what he has left in his tank for the next payday.. He's not looking to play 15 minutes a game.
3. Stop posting old videos. He's not half as effective nowadays.
4. We were always playing undersized against them. Hibbert goes and Mahinmi enters. That is not going to change. If anything, I think it would be an advantage to us if Bynum cuts in somewhere as his offense has been suspect and defense bad.

We need a guy on defense who hustles, grabs rebounds, blocks shots and holds down the paint. Bynum is not really that guy.

Now, if the question is whether getting him would've helped us. Maybe as a big body to throw against Hibbert come playoff time. Not particularly effective, but something. However, our front office has probably enough confidence in Oden stepping up and giving us that for 15-20 minutes.

I say we should be looking to package picks and one or two of our 3pt shooters for a young rebounding, energy PF. Like I've said many times before, T.Jones would be perfect, but next to impossible to get.

.. and really guys??? really??? We're all rooting for the same DAMN TEAM.. Let's just stop bickering and try to weigh pros and cons with sensible and rational points.

[AlexCRO]

People keep talking about him going to Indiana..

1. They don't want to take on anymore salary. They are absolutely super stingy. Why would they ever take him? The only reason this info is out there is because Indiana don't want us to get him.
2. He will have to share time between Hibbert and Mahinmi.. He's worse than both in their system (For defense).. The guy is looking to showcase what he has left in his tank for the next payday.. He's not looking to play 15 minutes a game.
3. Stop posting old videos. He's not half as effective nowadays.
4. We were always playing undersized against them. Hibbert goes and Mahinmi enters. That is not going to change. If anything, I think it would be an advantage to us if Bynum cuts in somewhere as his offense has been suspect and defense bad.

We need a guy on defense who hustles, grabs rebounds, blocks shots and holds down the paint. Bynum is not really that guy.

Now, if the question is whether getting him would've helped us. Maybe as a big body to throw against Hibbert come playoff time. Not particularly effective, but something. However, our front office has probably enough confidence in Oden stepping up and giving us that for 15-20 minutes.

I say we should be looking to package picks and one or two of our 3pt shooters for a young rebounding, energy PF. Like I've said many times before, T.Jones would be perfect, but next to impossible to get.

.. and really guys??? really??? We're all rooting for the same DAMN TEAM.. Let's just stop bickering and trying to weigh pros and cons with sensible and rational points.

its hard to do anything at this point because we dont have cap space, roster space or players that have high value besides the big three... but this problem should be a priority in the offseason...

[Ratchet_Rio]

We need a guy on defense who hustles, grabs rebounds, blocks shots and holds down the paint. Bynum is not really that guy.

Hold on I thought the Bynum fanboys said he did all of that?

[heater4life]

i'm interested to know how Riley and company can Know for sure Oden won't get hurt again....there's no way for them to know that

They dont know. But there is a training staff that is dedicated 100% to limiting any possibility of re-injury.

What they can see is he is probably performing well in practice; slowiy gaining strength, stamina and agility.

Although Bynum has seen the floor, he has just as much uncertainty health wise. I cant wait to see Oden out on the court.

they cannot limit or prevent what happens on the court. oden is one wrong step away from another knee injury. i just dont trust him. maybe because of limited intel that we are getting about him. he doesnt speak to the media at all , we seen some videos before games and the guy is strugling mightly, wich could be seen in the last video ( i think it was vs sacramento ), the guy makes five to ten jumps in a row and is a dead body if i belive correctly wich says alot if he is working from summer to this point he is a 2 year project even if that. the guy will never be what you all hope for, be happy with ten minutes even if that vs hibbert. but i dont belive he will hold up 7 games vs hibbert. prove me wrong oden.

I think your pessimism and desire to see Oden fail outweighs your fervor to see the Heat sign Bynum.

[Gwynplaine]

its hard to do anything at this point because we dont have cap space, roster space or players that have high value besides the big three... but this problem should be a priority in the offseason...

That is correct and like you said this should be a priority in the off-season. There really isn't much we can do this season save for miracles.

The only small gripe I've had is keeping Mason Jr. I would've preferred if we had given that spot to Ennis or Hamilton else to develop them and keep them with the playing roster. The last 2-3 games where we had multiple players out of the line-up would've given them exposure.

I think next year Philly makes the leap into the playoff's because the east will remain this bad/get worse and because Noel will return along with a high draft pick from this year. They will not be looking to tank anymore. That means we stand a good chance of getting their pick. Couple that with a pick of ours and we could be good to go.

[MHeat0279]

They dont know. But there is a training staff that is dedicated 100% to limiting any possibility of re-injury.

What they can see is he is probably performing well in practice; slowiy gaining strength, stamina and agility.

Although Bynum has seen the floor, he has just as much uncertainty health wise. I cant wait to see Oden out on the court.

they cannot limit or prevent what happens on the court. oden is one wrong step away from another knee injury. i just dont trust him. maybe because of limited intel that we are getting about him. he doesnt speak to the media at all , we seen some videos before games and the guy is strugling mightly, wich could be seen in the last video ( i think it was vs sacramento ), the guy makes five to ten jumps in a row and is a dead body if i belive correctly wich says alot if he is working from summer to this point he is a 2 year project even if that. the guy will never be what you all hope for, be happy with ten minutes even if that vs hibbert. but i dont belive he will hold up 7 games vs hibbert. prove me wrong oden.

I think your pessimism and desire to see Oden fail outweighs your fervor to see the Heat sign Bynum.

I do not think he meant for Oden to fail, it is just irrational to think a fan of the same tea wants what might be a very important piece to our championship run to fail, in fact his point is valid, Oden has not played for a long time and his injuries were very serious basketball wise, so it is not too far fetch to think he might get injured again, it is not very difficult to understand.

[Tony15]

You'd think that after 3 and a half years of this people would've learned by now that playing to your strengths and not matching up with the opposition is your best chance of victory. Guess not....considering the sense of panic of fear in this thread triggered by the by non-interest in Bynum.

[AlexCRO]

They dont know. But there is a training staff that is dedicated 100% to limiting any possibility of re-injury.

What they can see is he is probably performing well in practice; slowiy gaining strength, stamina and agility.

Although Bynum has seen the floor, he has just as much uncertainty health wise. I cant wait to see Oden out on the court.

they cannot limit or prevent what happens on the court. oden is one wrong step away from another knee injury. i just dont trust him. maybe because of limited intel that we are getting about him. he doesnt speak to the media at all , we seen some videos before games and the guy is strugling mightly, wich could be seen in the last video ( i think it was vs sacramento ), the guy makes five to ten jumps in a row and is a dead body if i belive correctly wich says alot if he is working from summer to this point he is a 2 year project even if that. the guy will never be what you all hope for, be happy with ten minutes even if that vs hibbert. but i dont belive he will hold up 7 games vs hibbert. prove me wrong oden.

I think your pessimism and desire to see Oden fail outweighs your fervor to see the Heat sign Bynum.

its not that, its that you can limit the chance of injury but you cant prevent it once he is on the floor because of the intensity of the game wich is played today

[AlexCRO]

they cannot limit or prevent what happens on the court. oden is one wrong step away from another knee injury. i just dont trust him. maybe because of limited intel that we are getting about him. he doesnt speak to the media at all , we seen some videos before games and the guy is strugling mightly, wich could be seen in the last video ( i think it was vs sacramento ), the guy makes five to ten jumps in a row and is a dead body if i belive correctly wich says alot if he is working from summer to this point he is a 2 year project even if that. the guy will never be what you all hope for, be happy with ten minutes even if that vs hibbert. but i dont belive he will hold up 7 games vs hibbert. prove me wrong oden.

I think your pessimism and desire to see Oden fail outweighs your fervor to see the Heat sign Bynum.

I do not think he meant for Oden to fail, it is just irrational to think a fan of the same tea wants what might be a very important piece to our championship run to fail, in fact his point is valid, Oden has not played for a long time and his injuries were very serious basketball wise, so it is not too far fetch to think he might get injured again, it is not very difficult to understand.

ofc i want oden to succeed but i always have roy in the back of my mind. huge talent but it wasn meant to be

[heatlespeatles]

i'm interested to know how Riley and company can Know for sure Oden won't get hurt again....there's no way for them to know that

You dont play for the unknown. You trust the plan you've put into place and Riley and Co. obviously believe in the plan they've constructed for Oden. So when the time comes, I dont want to see any of these "no way I trust Oden" posters giving him praise when you counted him out before he even got a chance to prove himself.

Love Oden's game, wanted him on this team BADLY!

Still, i have sense and I'm a very precautionary person, i like backup plans....we have a weakness that Bynum can fill. I want us to have both Bynum and Oden because i also use the past as guidance. Nothing in Oden's past tells me he will last. Bynum is the perfect backup plan and I would never imagine, we could have Bynum for free and still say no. Crazy

[heatlespeatles]

god forbid anything happen to Bird during the playoffs, or Bosh even.

I saw Oden in preseason and he plays HARD all the time, comes down hard on his knees all the time. Its scary....if you wanna take that risk. Remember Bird is old, Bosh can't guard Hibbert or Duncan or any real good big for that matter. You taking that risk, Miami? Ight...

[GreenHat]

it's cute how the revisionist historians act like miami has dominated in the playoffs
living on the edge will catch up to us eventually

WE NEED BYNUM

It already has caught up to us three years ago. If anything we were thought to be the most invincible that season.

What? Everyone was predicting us to lose to the Bulls that year. Nice revisionist history. If anything that was the year we looked most vincible.

Only the haters were. Go back and check the odds or the posts on this very board. No revision necessary.

[heater4life]

its not that, its that you can limit the chance of injury but you cant prevent it once he is on the floor because of the intensity of the game wich is played today

I do not think he meant for Oden to fail, it is just irrational to think a fan of the same tea wants what might be a very important piece to our championship run to fail, in fact his point is valid, Oden has not played for a long time and his injuries were very serious basketball wise, so it is not too far fetch to think he might get injured again, it is not very difficult to understand.

It is not difficult to understand, Oden has an extensive injury history. But when your solution to Oden's potential problem has an injury history almost on par to that of Odens, your argument loses validity, and is viewed at least on my part, as being pessimistic.

Bynum's injury history:

2007-2008: Bynum disloscates left knee cap. Underwent arthroscopic knee surgery
2008-2009: Bynum tore MCL in right knee. Had surgery, played in playoofs while recovering
2009-2010: Bynum tore his menicus in playoffs. Delayed surgery till offseason.
2010-2011: Bynum hyper extends his right knee
2011-2012: No injuries of note
2012-2013: Out all season, underwent arthroscopic knee surgey on BOTH knees.

When arguing Odens injury history and potential to breakdown, Andrew Bynum shouldnt be mentioned as a viable solution.

[Dupas]

If this is " Oden will be ready and here to stay " ill take it

[Js2k0516]

Alexcro, this board likes to pile on pple with different opinions of them and their holy god Riley.

I agree, I have NO faith in this Oden character, we have a couple of useless scrubs on this team that I wouldn't think twice before cutting them ( Mason, Lewis ) and replacing them with a 7 foot monster in Bynum.

I hope Oden proves us both wrong, but history shows, we will be the ones shaking our heads saying I told you so.

I haven't had a good feeling at all about this year. Because it's quite obvious the gap has closed between us and our opponents. The Pacers ARE gunning for us, the West has about 3-4 teams I don't even want sniffing the finals. Throw in a Wade that can barely stay on the court, a stubborn coach that continues to play Lewis over Beasley, and a front office that guaranteed Masons scrub ass to this team, this season has bad news written all over it.

[Dupas]

Lewis is a scrub?