2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1

[greg4012]

Feverishly strategizing on how to keep a bench rotational Tito when the best players on the team are fellow Titos is a wild way to build a team, imo.

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You still want to keep good players. Just have to be smart about it

Under this CBA, one bad contract can tank you. And its effectively imperative to have at least 1 major bargain contract.

[greg4012]

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You still want to keep good players. Just have to be smart about it

You need to lean into negativity, logic doesnt sell around here

The so called logic eh… on how to be the equivalent of a journeyman boxer.

And tomato can against the elite teams

The logic of spending 90% of your waking hours crying about things that you have no control over.

[KingDavid]

The so called logic eh… on how to be the equivalent of a journeyman boxer.

And tomato can against the elite teams

MWP is right in what he said. You need depth, quality players. The elite teams have it. Go off though

Know what else elite teams have...elite players.

Prioritizing roles players when theres a void in elite talent is the opposite of logic.

A relatively minor contract to a good role player isn't going to change anything. Look at the roster, we're in purgatory for now;

Blue is player option, Red is team option, Green is qualifying offer


Owning our 2026 1st & Rozier being an expiring contract may amount to something, but who on this list is moving the needle for us with Bam/Herro at the reigns?



Seems like we're putting all of our hopes on the deck for Luka & he's playing for the Lakers. Why would he leave for Miami when he can sign literally anywhere that wants him if he chooses to become a free agent? I think next summer we either sign Luka or blow up the team.

Having Off Night under a cheap contract won't matter either way; he's a good player, elite defender.

[MettaWorldPanda]

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[Beenie]

You need to lean into negativity, logic doesnt sell around here

The so called logic eh… on how to be the equivalent of a journeyman boxer.

And tomato can against the elite teams

The logic of spending 90% of your waking hours crying about things that you have no control over.

Only 90% eh

I can assure you that while observing the beautiful viewpoint of a moderately grueling mountain hike this past week, 110% of my thoughts were focused on the thread topics of this board.

I don’t like being shafted

[3ammy3uck3ts]

I don’t post for one day and Beenie loses his damn mind, alright settle down I’m back now.

[twix2500]

Know what else elite teams have...elite players.

Prioritizing roles players when theres a void in elite talent is the opposite of logic.

You dont ignore your own free agents because you lack that #1 guy. “Lets not sign anybody because we dont have Michael” is stupidity. As MWP said, “just be smart about it” its really that simple.

We need to keep Mitchell because he's young, fits and a decent player.

We CAN'T overpay him like we did TOO MANY TIMES before, because he's not a game changer, isn't proven long term and has clear weaknesses.

And the bigger issue we need to focus on is not Mitchell, it's who will be the offensive star Mitchell is supposed to help support.

A house is built from the foundation up, you don't start building with the bathroom window - which is what Mitchell is.

I've yet to see a legit plan about building a contender expet the one I suggest - take a step back for 2 years and add assets.

I look at getting Mitchell to add to the assets that can be traded for a future star. I do not think the Heat are in the rebuild stage yet (meaning there is no player to build around), but are in the collecting trade assets to acquire that player. You can't build a house until you build your finances (capital and credit).

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[3ammy3uck3ts]

I believe the Heat have a goal in mind to land a high level guy via trade this summer or the next, I mean they have to have a plan right lol?!

I’d prefer we keep Mitchell on a solid deal in the event we do get a true first option otherwise we have the Jimmy/Bam surrounded by bums scenario again trying to win a championship in the finals against much more talented teams. We need legit role players, not undrafted fringe nba guys like we’re used to. Thats not good roster construction, let Davion be our Nesmith/Nembhard/Caruso.

As for the Pacers being better than us, sure they are. They have a roster similar to the one I mention above. Their best players are surrounded by legit role players. Let’s not act like injuries didn’t work heavily in their favor though, first round with Dame and the the 2nd round you have Mobley Garland and Hunter all missing games with injury and Mitchell’s leg being hurt to where he would’ve missed time if the season wasn’t on the line. They had a lot of luck break their way which is why I’ve been preaching to always field the best roster you can because you never know what may happen with injury/performance/etc. Pacers had massive luck last year also with the Giannis Middleton Dame injuries, Brunson injury. Celtics had MASSIVE luck last year every single round with Jimmy/Mitchell/Haliburton/Luka injuries. You just never know, especially with the parity it seems like the league has been building over the last several years.

Also funny seeing how after Jokic and then the Celtics won it all everyone is beating on the table about us having to blow it up and draft a superstar top 5 player to ever have a chance, now both finals are in the finals because they traded for their stars. 3 of the 4 conference finals teams actually traded for their stars as opposed to drafting them this year. That just goes to show that there’s not just one specific fool proof way of building your roster.

[RexBoyWonder]

Feverishly strategizing on how to keep a bench rotational Tito when the best players on the team are fellow Titos is a wild way to build a team, imo.

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You still want to keep good players. Just have to be smart about it

Under this CBA, one bad contract can tank you. And its effectively imperative to have at least 1 major bargain contract.

I'd argue we have 3 big bad contracts, and 1 small bad contract.

Duncan, Rozier, and Wiggins are terrible contracts that will net you negative value in a trade. Despite some delusional Heat fans expecting Wiggins to suddenly become something he never was - a legit lead guy.

Anderson is a small bad contract, He's probably a vet min guy once he hits free agency.

If this front office Maxes out Tyler - Herro immediately becomes our worst, biggest and longest bad contract.

No other decent team in the all league has so much money tied to negative contracts, some are barley playable players. This front office has been awful for a few years now and I'm still counting.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Unless we make a trade that dumps salary which will take assets we really don’t have i don’t see any other path then releasing Duncan and having access to the non tax payer MLE in order to sign Mitchell and our draft pick. Duncan’s dead weight 9.8 mil will come off the books next year. We will still have close to 40 mil in expiring contracts between HH, Rozier and Anderson with Wiggins 28 mil player opt contract.

[MettaWorldPanda]

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You still want to keep good players. Just have to be smart about it

Under this CBA, one bad contract can tank you. And its effectively imperative to have at least 1 major bargain contract.

I'd argue we have 3 big bad contracts, and 1 small bad contract.

Duncan, Rozier, and Wiggins are terrible contracts that will net you negative value in a trade. Despite some delusional Heat fans expecting Wiggins to suddenly become something he never was - a legit lead guy.

Anderson is a small bad contract, He's probably a vet min guy once he hits free agency.

Is this front office Maxes out Tyler - Herro immediately becomes our worst, biggest and longest bad contract.

One other decent team in the league has so much money tied to negative contracts, some are barley playable players. This front office has been awful for a few years now and I'm still counting.

I don’t think we give Herro extension this year. Feel like they will be a little more calculated with the books. Push his contract into next year and see what happens. Keep him motivated to keep exceeding expectations. He could be used in a S&T deal next year. Go the Jimmy route with him and see what route he wants to take. During his press conference he mentioned being signed now or more expensive next year meaning he’s itching to sign that extension. Nope

[RexBoyWonder]

I believe the Heat have a goal in mind to land a high level guy via trade this summer or the next, I mean they have to have a plan right lol?!

I’d prefer we keep Mitchell on a solid deal in the event we do get a true first option otherwise we have the Jimmy/Bam surrounded by bums scenario again trying to win a championship in the finals against much more talented teams. We need legit role players, not undrafted fringe nba guys like we’re used to. Thats not good roster construction, let Davion be our Nesmith/Nembhard/Caruso.

As for the Pacers being better than us, sure they are. They have a roster similar to the one I mention above. Their best players are surrounded by legit role players. Let’s not act like injuries didn’t work heavily in their favor though, first round with Dame and the the 2nd round you have Mobley Garland and Hunter all missing games with injury and Mitchell’s leg being hurt to where he would’ve missed time if the season wasn’t on the line. They had a lot of luck break their way which is why I’ve been preaching to always field the best roster you can because you never know what may happen with injury/performance/etc. Pacers had massive luck last year also with the Giannis Middleton Dame injuries, Brunson injury. Celtics had MASSIVE luck last year every single round with Jimmy/Mitchell/Haliburton/Luka injuries. You just never know, especially with the parity it seems like the league has been building over the last several years.

Also funny seeing how after Jokic and then the Celtics won it all everyone is beating on the table about us having to blow it up and draft a superstar top 5 player to ever have a chance, now both finals are in the finals because they traded for their stars. 3 of the 4 conference finals teams actually traded for their stars as opposed to drafting them this year. That just goes to show that there’s not just one specific fool proof way of building your roster.

Are you now advocating for us to trade Bam? because that's the translation of your point to reality.


Personally I like Bam and Herro and since they're both young and fit our culture I rather keep them.

But don't delude ls yourself, If you don't want to take a step back and add assets (via draft and trades) - it means you're in favor of trading them both now.

There's no magical third way. So pick a lane.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Starting on July 1st Nikola Jovic is eligible for a 3 year 30 mil extension. That’s 10 per heading into his prime age years. This is basically the Payton Pritchard extension. This should be offered the moment July 1st hits. If he passes on the extension which i doubt he does, then you immediately start putting him in trades. Jovic’s new figure takes over next year and essentially gets absorbed by Duncan’s 9.8 coming off the books.

https://www.si.com/nba/heat/miami-heat-forward-expected-to-ink-30-million-contract-extension-01jttqfqv6y5

[MettaWorldPanda]

Mitchell and Jovic making around 10 mil a piece begins to form the future foundation of our bench on the cheap. Add in the 20th pick making 4 mil.

[greg4012]

I believe the Heat have a goal in mind to land a high level guy via trade this summer or the next, I mean they have to have a plan right lol?!

I’d prefer we keep Mitchell on a solid deal in the event we do get a true first option otherwise we have the Jimmy/Bam surrounded by bums scenario again trying to win a championship in the finals against much more talented teams. We need legit role players, not undrafted fringe nba guys like we’re used to. Thats not good roster construction, let Davion be our Nesmith/Nembhard/Caruso.

As for the Pacers being better than us, sure they are. They have a roster similar to the one I mention above. Their best players are surrounded by legit role players. Let’s not act like injuries didn’t work heavily in their favor though, first round with Dame and the the 2nd round you have Mobley Garland and Hunter all missing games with injury and Mitchell’s leg being hurt to where he would’ve missed time if the season wasn’t on the line. They had a lot of luck break their way which is why I’ve been preaching to always field the best roster you can because you never know what may happen with injury/performance/etc. Pacers had massive luck last year also with the Giannis Middleton Dame injuries, Brunson injury. Celtics had MASSIVE luck last year every single round with Jimmy/Mitchell/Haliburton/Luka injuries. You just never know, especially with the parity it seems like the league has been building over the last several years.

Also funny seeing how after Jokic and then the Celtics won it all everyone is beating on the table about us having to blow it up and draft a superstar top 5 player to ever have a chance, now both finals are in the finals because they traded for their stars. 3 of the 4 conference finals teams actually traded for their stars as opposed to drafting them this year. That just goes to show that there’s not just one specific fool proof way of building your roster.

Everyone always gets overly caught up in lusting after the build of the team du jour and start getting blinders on thinking copying exactly what the team du jour (OKC) doing is the ONLY way to succeed. NBA is always about iterating and finding the next form of advantage while learning from the successes of others. I'd actually suggest that the franchises that are always in copycat mode are the ones that never get anywhere.

[greg4012]

Starting on July 1st Nikola Jovic is eligible for a 3 year 30 mil extension. That’s 10 per heading into his prime age years. This is basically the Payton Pritchard extension. This should be offered the moment July 1st hits. If he passes on the extension which i doubt he does, then you immediately start putting him in trades. Jovic’s new figure takes over next year and essentially gets absorbed by Duncan’s 9.8 coming off the books.

https://www.si.com/nba/heat/miami-heat-forward-expected-to-ink-30-million-contract-extension-01jttqfqv6y5

Definitely has potential to be the sort of early strike to get a future potential bargain contract on the books. Miami needs to get better at locking those in.

Of course, Jovic also needs to continue to progress (he's 21) and get his health/availability on track (my main concern).

[MettaWorldPanda]

Starting on July 1st Nikola Jovic is eligible for a 3 year 30 mil extension. That’s 10 per heading into his prime age years. This is basically the Payton Pritchard extension. This should be offered the moment July 1st hits. If he passes on the extension which i doubt he does, then you immediately start putting him in trades. Jovic’s new figure takes over next year and essentially gets absorbed by Duncan’s 9.8 coming off the books.

https://www.si.com/nba/heat/miami-heat-forward-expected-to-ink-30-million-contract-extension-01jttqfqv6y5

Definitely has potential to be the sort of early strike to get a future potential bargain contract on the books. Miami needs to get better at locking those in.

Of course, Jovic also needs to continue to progress (he's 21) and get his health/availability on track (my main concern).

With all the work we have put into him and the flashes he has shown. He’s definitely worth locking up for that price. He loves it here and has been putting in the work. He’s bought into the program. His chemistry with both Bam and Ware will just continue to get better. He’s the prototype perfect fit with those two.

[HeatFanLifer]

Are you now advocating for us to trade Bam? because that's the translation of your point to reality.


Personally I like Bam and Herro and since they're both young and fit our culture I rather keep them.

But don't delude ls yourself, If you don't want to take a step back and add assets (via draft and trades) - it means you're in favor of trading them both now.

There's no magical third way. So pick a lane.

I am in favor of trading anyone to get a player that will take the Heat to the next level. We had that player in Wade and Jimmy was close, but the team talent was not ready for him. Bam/Herro or anyone else on the team are not that player to take the Heat to the next level. They are great second or third options, but this is a 10 seed team swept out of the first round of the playoffs without more talent. If that isn’t the sign Riley needs to reset the franchise, then I don’t know what else he needs to see at this point.

[MettaWorldPanda]

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[wade44]

Hopefully Raps get KD and save us from ourselves