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2024-25 Regular Season Thread Vol. 3

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Post#821 » by ZoStrong » Sat Jan 4, 2025 11:19 pm

Wiltside wrote:When people mention the bad endings we’ve had with superstars, they’re forgetting the few things they have in common.

Wade, Shaq and Jimmy are all at around the same age and contract situation as to when things turned sour. All wanted final, legacy paydays that take them through their late thirties. Wade had taken unders, so it’s fair that he wanted some degree of return later on. That wasn’t the case with Shaq or Jimmy, who were paid max dollars and were more than fairly compensated. Availability also became an issue for all three of them too, which is an issue that wouldn’t improve with age.

Bron is the outlier, who left in his prime for other reasons. But it’s clear that management doesn’t want to pay max dollars to players in the twilight of their career.


As it should be. This is not a charity.
I don't mind one year fat 'thank you for everything' contract on a down year but you hurt the franchise in the long run and the chances of the other players on the roster by giving out long term max contracts to past prime aging stars. Take emotions out of it. It's business on both sides
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Post#822 » by ZoStrong » Sat Jan 4, 2025 11:23 pm

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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:I have a hard time believing the grizzlies would trade the 26 year old Bane but who knows


Can a Bane and Herro backcourt work?


Not ideal, but i think we gotta get the best assets at this point. Try them out for the remainder of the season n retool in the off-season w all the assets we got
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Post#823 » by ZoStrong » Sat Jan 4, 2025 11:26 pm

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Players come here because they want to win and make the most money possible. Miami has a history of both.

It's not complicated. Stop treating the NBA like a soap opera. Players want money and winning. Nothing else matters.


Fans love fan-fiction :lol:


Sports is the ultimate male drama, lol
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Post#824 » by ZoStrong » Sat Jan 4, 2025 11:31 pm

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Hmm, never noticed that. Interesting..
I thought Phoenix was up there.
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Post#825 » by marson » Sat Jan 4, 2025 11:33 pm

Grizz would be crazy if they include Bane :lol:

3p% down a bit this season but would the perfect 2nd/3rd option here. Not enough to win a championship but good enough to annoy some team in the playoffs :D

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Post#826 » by inhabitMiami » Sat Jan 4, 2025 11:35 pm

Wiltside wrote:When people mention the bad endings we’ve had with superstars, they’re forgetting the few things they have in common.

Wade, Shaq and Jimmy are all at around the same age and contract situation as to when things turned sour. All wanted final, legacy paydays that take them through their late thirties. Wade had taken unders, so it’s fair that he wanted some degree of return later on. That wasn’t the case with Shaq or Jimmy, who were paid max dollars and were more than fairly compensated. Availability also became an issue for all three of them too, which is an issue that wouldn’t improve with age.

Bron is the outlier, who left in his prime for other reasons. But it’s clear that management doesn’t want to pay max dollars to players in the twilight of their career.


One thing people ALWAYS neglect with Wade:

Dude didn't take a paycut out of the kindness of his heart. He wanted to win. And he won a **** ton. He took a paycut because HE valued winning over money. I don't understand why it gets framed like anything else. You aren't owed a legacy payday because you took a paycut in order to win
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Post#827 » by TroubleS0me » Sat Jan 4, 2025 11:37 pm

No Memphis please
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Post#828 » by miamiballer » Sat Jan 4, 2025 11:39 pm

Unless Memphis is willing to deal jjj no thanks
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Post#829 » by twix2500 » Sat Jan 4, 2025 11:40 pm

Herbert Jones and Brandon Ingram matches Butler salary. Get a third team involved and make sure you get Ingram and Herbert Jones in return somehow.

;t=748s
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Post#830 » by marson » Sat Jan 4, 2025 11:40 pm

TroubleS0me wrote:No Memphis please


Beggars cannot be choosers. We are lucky enough to have a trading partner at this point.
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Post#831 » by MartyConlonJr » Sat Jan 4, 2025 11:41 pm

Surprised on both sides if Bane is included. He seems like an overpay, but also not good enough for Heat to get/stay in the contender zone. Heat must think he is flippable.
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Post#832 » by miamiballer » Sat Jan 4, 2025 11:42 pm

I’d rather let Jimmy expire than get Marcus smart or babes long term deal


Jjj or nothing
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Post#833 » by EMC5466 » Sat Jan 4, 2025 11:46 pm

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Post#834 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Jan 4, 2025 11:52 pm

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lol Clarke and Smart are not pieces you add to a team that's losing Jimmy Butler, in hopes of making a deep playoff run. Those are pieces you add to a core with Jimmy Butler staying.

That being said, adding Brandon Ingram to this core, along with a Zion, those are realistic pieces that can be had via a three way deal (or just straight up for Jimmy and Duncan) that really has a chance of allowing us to go on a deep run.


Literally just take the gamble on Zion. His contract is non guaranteed and we can let him go if it doesn’t work.
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Post#835 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Jan 4, 2025 11:54 pm

twix2500 wrote:Herbert Jones and Brandon Ingram matches Butler salary. Get a third team involved and make sure you get Ingram and Herbert Jones in return somehow.

;t=748s


Trade machine bandit, settle down :lol:
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Post#836 » by miamiballer » Sat Jan 4, 2025 11:55 pm

Guys I would look at

Fvv/dillon brooks for butler and Robinson

Kuzma and brogdon for butler

If push comes to shove, Marcus smart, Clarke, konchar and a 1 for butler
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Post#837 » by miamiballer » Sun Jan 5, 2025 12:02 am

Also would look for a way to get Brandon in graham and picks expiring to no in a 3 team deal
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Post#838 » by DayofMourning » Sun Jan 5, 2025 12:06 am

Just did a 4 team trade that got us Jaren Jr, Fox, and Zion. Success!!
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Post#839 » by twix2500 » Sun Jan 5, 2025 12:07 am

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Re: 2024-25 Regular Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#840 » by twix2500 » Sun Jan 5, 2025 12:07 am

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
twix2500 wrote:Herbert Jones and Brandon Ingram matches Butler salary. Get a third team involved and make sure you get Ingram and Herbert Jones in return somehow.

;t=748s


Trade machine bandit, settle down :lol:


I didnt use a trade machine I looked up the contracts and did long division with a pencil and paper. :lol:

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