2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1

[3ammy3uck3ts]

I believe the Heat have a goal in mind to land a high level guy via trade this summer or the next, I mean they have to have a plan right lol?!

I’d prefer we keep Mitchell on a solid deal in the event we do get a true first option otherwise we have the Jimmy/Bam surrounded by bums scenario again trying to win a championship in the finals against much more talented teams. We need legit role players, not undrafted fringe nba guys like we’re used to. Thats not good roster construction, let Davion be our Nesmith/Nembhard/Caruso.

As for the Pacers being better than us, sure they are. They have a roster similar to the one I mention above. Their best players are surrounded by legit role players. Let’s not act like injuries didn’t work heavily in their favor though, first round with Dame and the the 2nd round you have Mobley Garland and Hunter all missing games with injury and Mitchell’s leg being hurt to where he would’ve missed time if the season wasn’t on the line. They had a lot of luck break their way which is why I’ve been preaching to always field the best roster you can because you never know what may happen with injury/performance/etc. Pacers had massive luck last year also with the Giannis Middleton Dame injuries, Brunson injury. Celtics had MASSIVE luck last year every single round with Jimmy/Mitchell/Haliburton/Luka injuries. You just never know, especially with the parity it seems like the league has been building over the last several years.

Also funny seeing how after Jokic and then the Celtics won it all everyone is beating on the table about us having to blow it up and draft a superstar top 5 player to ever have a chance, now both finals are in the finals because they traded for their stars. 3 of the 4 conference finals teams actually traded for their stars as opposed to drafting them this year. That just goes to show that there’s not just one specific fool proof way of building your roster.

Are you now advocating for us to trade Bam? because that's the translation of your point to reality.


Personally I like Bam and Herro and since they're both young and fit our culture I rather keep them.

But don't delude ls yourself, If you don't want to take a step back and add assets (via draft and trades) - it means you're in favor of trading them both now.

There's no magical third way. So pick a lane.

I’m keeping Bam, he’s proven he can be the 2nd best player on a team that can win the championship, we have several other assets that could land us a star.

[Vertical Limit]

Herro is a tito jackson and is most definitely in the trade block, especially since he is seeking a max extension which we should not entertain.

Im keeping Bam and everyone else is available

[Beenie]

MWP is right in what he said. You need depth, quality players. The elite teams have it. Go off though

Know what else elite teams have...elite players.

Prioritizing roles players when theres a void in elite talent is the opposite of logic.

You dont ignore your own free agents because you lack that #1 guy. “Let’s not sign anybody because we dont have Michael” is stupidity. As MWP said, “just be smart about it” it’s really that simple.

Stupidity is being a treadmill fringe playoff team that is hoping n praying that a player better than Jimmy falls into the team’s lap.

Blow it up

Or don’t and be happy with the likes of a Derozan type and the rest of the Tito’s fighting for their playi-in lives over the next few years.

[twix2500]

Everytime I look at it, it becomes more clear that trading Wiggins and another vet is a must. Not just to trade for his replacement in the starting unit but to trade him to open up space for Jovic, Jaquez and Larsson to replace Wiggins. The Heat have to open the door for Jovic, Jaquez and Larsson to compete for the starting spot.

[twix2500]

Also trade Slo Mo for Kelly Olynyk, we all know that is what Spo wanted in the first place. Slo Mo was on his way to Toronto until the Raps decided to trade Olynyk to NO for Brandon Ingram. Spo was clearly trying to show the front office by trying to use Slo Mo like he was Olynyk. It was funny at times but most of the time it was cringe worthy.

[carnageta]

It would be foolish to trade Herro for anything other than a superstar in return. You basically have an-star scorer locked in at 30m for the next 3~ seasons. That provides a ton of flexibility cap wise to build out a competitive team.


Again, our main achilles heel has not been the salaries paid out to Herro / Bam, but rather the 'deadweight' we have acquired on the roster that is occupying a large chunk of the cap. Rozier and Duncan are set to make 46m this upcoming season - basically the salary of a superstar. If you remove that dead weight and replace it with a player that should actually be paid > 45m / season, all of a sudden the pieces magically fall into place.

[twix2500]

Know what else elite teams have...elite players.

Prioritizing roles players when theres a void in elite talent is the opposite of logic.

You dont ignore your own free agents because you lack that #1 guy. “Let’s not sign anybody because we dont have Michael” is stupidity. As MWP said, “just be smart about it” it’s really that simple.

Stupidity is being a treadmill fringe playoff team that is hoping n praying that a player better than Jimmy falls into the team’s lap.

Blow it up

Or don’t and be happy with the likes of a Derozan type and the rest of the Tito’s fighting for their playi-in lives over the next few years.

Beenie you know dam well you will not watch if the Heat blew up the roster to be a top 3 lotto team every year.
Stop trying to force everyone to watch Bird Box deity.

[Beenie]

You dont ignore your own free agents because you lack that #1 guy. “Let’s not sign anybody because we dont have Michael” is stupidity. As MWP said, “just be smart about it” it’s really that simple.

Stupidity is being a treadmill fringe playoff team that is hoping n praying that a player better than Jimmy falls into the team’s lap.

Blow it up

Or don’t and be happy with the likes of a Derozan type and the rest of the Tito’s fighting for their playi-in lives over the next few years.

Beenie you know dam well you will not watch if the Heat blew up the roster to be a top 3 lotto team every year.
Stop trying to force everyone to watch Bird Box deity.

Top 3 lotto team > middling no-hope squad that coughs up forth quarters leads to the likes of Orlando without their 2 best players, and that’s when theyre not getting blown out by the Utahs of the league.

[twix2500]

Stupidity is being a treadmill fringe playoff team that is hoping n praying that a player better than Jimmy falls into the team’s lap.

Blow it up

Or don’t and be happy with the likes of a Derozan type and the rest of the Tito’s fighting for their playi-in lives over the next few years.

Beenie you know dam well you will not watch if the Heat blew up the roster to be a top 3 lotto team every year.
Stop trying to force everyone to watch Bird Box deity.

Top 3 lotto team > middling no-hope squad that coughs up forth quarters leads to the likes of Orlando without their 2 best players, and that’s when theyre not getting blown out by the Utahs of the league.

I see you didnt deny you wouldnt watch.

[twix2500]

Watch on YouTube

[Beenie]

Beenie you know dam well you will not watch if the Heat blew up the roster to be a top 3 lotto team every year.
Stop trying to force everyone to watch Bird Box deity.

Top 3 lotto team > middling no-hope squad that coughs up forth quarters leads to the likes of Orlando without their 2 best players, and that’s when theyre not getting blown out by the Utahs of the league.

I see you didnt deny you wouldnt watch.

I’m a crackhead for basketball

Even if it meant abandoning my career, family, all of my deepest principles, I’d still be under a bridge injecting that heat needle into my black n blue, requiem for a dream arm vein.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Still think we should call in about Mathurin and see what’s up there, I feel he’s just the right opportunity away if really breaking out. This free throw rate is insane considering he barely plays.

[Beenie]

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Still think we should call in about Mathurin and see what’s up there, I feel he’s just the right opportunity away if really breaking out. This free throw rate is insane considering he barely plays.

They’ll lose to OKC and then decide in the offseason to package some combination of their young players like Mathurin, Toppin, Walker, Nesmith and possible picks for a vet to put them over the top.

I suspect they’ll be in the KD sweepstakes

[RexBoyWonder]

everyone is in the KD sweepstakes.

This better not be the one time we get the star.

Wrong roster, wrong timing, wrong price, wrong star.

[Hoops3355]

I think if Giannis gets moved to the Raptors legit would be a strong landing spot. I like that roster and I think he would too in terms of his skillset plus he stays in the East.

[MettaWorldPanda]

I think if Giannis gets moved to the Raptors legit would be a strong landing spot. I like that roster and I think he would too in terms of his skillset plus he stays in the East.

Raps are appearing to be major players in Giannis sweepstakes.

[twix2500]

I think if Giannis gets moved to the Raptors legit would be a strong landing spot. I like that roster and I think he would too in terms of his skillset plus he stays in the East.

Raps are appearing to be major players in Giannis sweepstakes.

If Raps trade for Giannis they are not using the players that's left over. Just like the Lakers did when they got Laebron they are going to turnover the entire roster.

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[EMC5466]

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[MettaWorldPanda]

If we are looking for a vet stop gap in the backcourt i wouldn’t mind a Rozier and Jaquez swap for CJ McCollum who will be on an expiring contract. Can play both guard spots and allow us to bring our young draft pick slowly. Would also mix in well with Mitchell. Sounds a lot better than DeRozan and brings another much needed 3 point shooter and ball handler. Rozier and JJJ make the exact dollar figure to McCollum. Also gets the Rozier stench off this roster which won’t be an easy task to do this offseason. Borrego is an asst with the Pels and has a good relationship with Rozier from the Hornets days. Could view him as a reclamation project while they get a young asset in JJJ. Would ask Pels for future 2nd in this deal.

[MettaWorldPanda]

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Feels like we are losing ground in the KD race. Opted in Randle and McDaniels with young asset or two might be enough for the Suns.