2019 NBA Draft 2.0 - I can be your Herro baby

[GopherIt!]

wat i mis

Timberwolves signed Wiggins to a max contract...20 years , $350 million.

still better than bryce harper deal tbh

[Spacely]

How are y’all still angry let the kids play first

[Rafly]

How are y’all still angry let the kids play first

Id agree. But we are likely seeing Dragic, Waiters, JJ, Whiteside in the starting line up.

Kill me please.

[oreon]

Does Herro need to become a star to make him worth the 13th pick? He could become Belinelli and I'd consider us drafting him at 13 to be the right move.

the Heat need to hit on a future all star in the draft.

I guarantee you Tyler Herro is not that guy.

need to take chances, not safe picks.

That's a fault in your expectation. Over the last 10 years only 2 all star caliber players have been drafted at 13. You just dont get that caliber a player often at that position. And no I don't think Herro is a future all star, nor do I think are any of the players drafted immediately after. But we set our expectations based on how much we like or don't like a player.

Take a chance on someone who is raw and has that all-star upside. And I don't see it with Herro. Physical gifts and skill matters. Apart from his shooting everything else about him is average or below average.
He has ok handles, doesn't have a quick first step, not fast with the ball, a poor rim finisher and he's not a great athlete. There's only so much he can improve on.
We all lambasted the Bam pick last year because we didn't know much about him. But after going through the different draft reports on him most of us come around to that pick because of his elite athleticism. Reading on Herro, I don't think he'll be more than a good starting role player. There are couple players who were picked afterwards, that will see in a few years are better than him. We should have taken a bigger risk. If the risk didn't work, then it doesn't work. In comparing the two picks, Herro but have a bigger immediate impact but I think KZ ends up being the better player.

[Feel_the_Heat15]

I don't think KZ's actually 6-9.5 with shoes like draft combine data says. Most shoes don't add on 2 inches. I'm guessing KZ's "actually" 6-8.5 with shoes on. Still a great height for a SF.

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Belinelli+ and Trevor Ariza, good draft.

[DBurks2818]

How are y’all still angry let the kids play first

Id agree. But we are likely seeing Dragic, Waiters, JJ, Whiteside in the starting line up.

Kill me please.

Did Rich, Winslow, Bam, and KO/DJJ disappear?

[Rafly]

How are y’all still angry let the kids play first

Id agree. But we are likely seeing Dragic, Waiters, JJ, Whiteside in the starting line up.

Kill me please.

Did Rich, Winslow, Bam, and KO/DJJ disappear?

Nope. But this is Pat Riley. JRich will start too. But the others will be innocent the bench unless something is done.

[Mars]

He's not the Herro we need... he's the Herro we deserve.

[Spacely]

Id agree. But we are likely seeing Dragic, Waiters, JJ, Whiteside in the starting line up.

Kill me please.

Did Rich, Winslow, Bam, and KO/DJJ disappear?

Nope. But this is Pat Riley. JRich will start too. But the others will be innocent the bench unless something is done.

Whiteside has definitely lost his starting role on this team for the foreseeable future.

That being said:

Dragic/Winslow
Waiters or J-Rich/Tyler Herro
J-Rich or Winslow/DJJ/KZ
Olynyk/JJ/Anderson
Bam/Whiteside

So, it’s up to who gonna be the starting SG & SF next year.

[twix2500]

the Heat need to hit on a future all star in the draft.

I guarantee you Tyler Herro is not that guy.

need to take chances, not safe picks.

That's a fault in your expectation. Over the last 10 years only 2 all star caliber players have been drafted at 13. You just dont get that caliber a player often at that position. And no I don't think Herro is a future all star, nor do I think are any of the players drafted immediately after. But we set our expectations based on how much we like or don't like a player.

Take a chance on someone who is raw and has that all-star upside. And I don't see it with Herro. Physical gifts and skill matters. Apart from his shooting everything else about him is average or below average.
He has ok handles, doesn't have a quick first step, not fast with the ball, a poor rim finisher and he's not a great athlete. There's only so much he can improve on.
We all lambasted the Bam pick last year because we didn't know much about him. But after going through the different draft reports on him most of us come around to that pick because of his elite athleticism. Reading on Herro, I don't think he'll be more than a good starting role player. There are couple players who were picked afterwards, that will see in a few years are better than him. We should have taken a bigger risk. If the risk didn't work, then it doesn't work. In comparing the two picks, Herro but have a bigger immediate impact but I think KZ ends up being the better player.

A few people didnt come around on Bam until they seen him in the summer league. And even then a lot were still skeptical. It will likely have to be the summer league again before we start to have more optimism. Which is rightfully so

[dolphinatik]

I liked okpala but his major flaw is lack of playmaking. Tunnel vision on offense, lack of vision in general. He is like a black whole when he gets the ball. Very rsw for his bbiq. Coaches have their work cut out for him. Players like him though

[Spacely]

I liked okpala but his major flaw is lack of playmaking. Tunnel vision on offense, lack of vision in general. He is like a black whole when he gets the ball. Very rsw for his bbiq. Coaches have their work cut out for him. Players like him though

He has passing instincts and is a willing passer though

Definitely has potential in that department.

[twix2500]

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Dammit

[unowen85]

Riley thinks he’s still the genius he used to be. He thinks he’s accumulating assets to use in a trade like he did previously with Mourning and Shaq. But nobody wants our crap players. And he thinks he has a coach that players want to play for, like we used to have when Riley was coach. But players know that Spo is an awful coach and nobody wants to play for Miami anymore.

Does Arison have the balls to ask Riley to step down? I doubt it.

Hey unowen - welcome back. Haven’t seen you posting for a while, hopefully we see a resurgence.

And we have Heat board Freak sighting as well!

Don’t have as much time now as I used to have when I was a young man. I got a wife, daughter, and pets to look after. And I don’t live in Florida no more so I don’t get the Heat games on tv.

And quite frankly, I haven’t been a fan of Riley’s moves the past few years so I’ve lost interest.

[twix2500]

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Here is some of the potential with Okpala. Has very nice frame like Bam, without the muscles. Get him in the weight room to man up his body. Also work on his form on his shot. I dont know where all these players getting this habit of shooting on the opposite side of your shooting hand. It is made weird to be so common lately.

[Spacely]

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Here is some of the potential with Okpala. Has very nice frame like Bam, without the muscles. Get him in the weight room to man up his body. Also work on his form on his shot. I dont know where all these players getting this habit of shooting on the opposite side of your shooting hand. It is made weird to be so common lately.

Imagine if this guy put on weight like Giannis, he’d be a seriously problem. Seems like he’s already pretty strong at the 215 pounds that he’s at right now. I doubt Spo is gonna play him much and i don’t know if he’ll come in and make an immediate impact but I believe he could mold into a great player in like 2-4 years.

[twix2500]

Here is Tyler Herro shot chart compare to the Heats shot chart to see if he provides help in areas of weakness

Can you just explain the results to me as if I was 5?

The top photo Its the shooting percentage of Tyler Herro in certain location on the court. The bottom photo is the shooting percentage of the Heat team as a whole in certain location on the court. And it also gives an idea where the player and the team taking most of his shots. It can give you a heads up where Herro will be placed in the offense.

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[Maroko]

the feeling after that trade



the funny thing about the draft, you don't expect much but you still end frustrated and disappointed with the Heat

[HeatIn5]

Ayyyy told y’all we’d get porter

[Dr_Heat]

Ayyyy told y’all we’d get porter

I’m ordering my porter jr Cavs jersey soon