Miami Heat 2023/2024 Training Camp and Regular Season Thread

[MiamiSun]

But the question becomes will Spo ever play Thomas and Bam together? Woods and Bam I feel could have possibly played together.

[greg4012]

But the question becomes will Spo ever play Thomas and Bam together? Woods and Bam I feel could have possibly played together.

Spo played Bam and Meyers Leonard together for an entire season. If the 5 can stretch the floor, Bam can play the 4 because he can guard anyone

[AirP.]

This person likes bad basketball, Duncan Robinson has diversified his game from a high volume 3pt specialist to a below average offensive NBA player in the last 4 years. I wish he'd get back to being laser focused on getting to his spots and shooting 3s vs looking to see if he can do something else, that extra calculation does hurt his 3pt shooting because he's not 100% committed to shooting 3s.

3pt% - 45%,41%, 37%, 33%
TS% - 68%, 63%, 57%, 53%
ORTG - 122, 113, 113, 105
MPG - 30, 31, 26, 17

Remember the 2 seasons where instead of looking to attack the basket he'd stop and shoot that 3 and probably gotten the defender to bump him for a 4-point play or 3 free throws (since he followed over the pick). Had he played like he does now from the beginning he wouldn't have made the NBA, only becoming a specialist did he end up overcoming his bad defense to make an NBA roster. Spoelstra knew what he could do an made him work on that aspect of his game, now he's paid and has diversified his game. This is one aspect of Spoelstra that I love, the ability to make a limited player into a contributor.

Also, just think about how much less he's working on his 3pt shot while spending time working on his other aspects of his game, he's nearly 30 changing up his game to a more athletic game?

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How he played in 2020 vs today... this is a 4 point play because the defender went over would have been him attacking the basket today instead of letting the defender's momentum run into him shooting a 3. It's the difference between possibly a 2-point shot to possibly 3 or 4 points.

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[HEATVols865]

Yooo what did the Herro texts say ????

[carnageta]

Thomas Bryant and Bam will not share a single minute of floor time together. That's not why T. Bryant was brought on board. The biggest bodies next to Bam this season will either be Kevin Love or Nikola Jovic. Other than that, expect a lot of Highsmith, Caleb, and even Butler in that 4 spot.

[Kobewade11]

Yooo what did the Herro texts say ????

They said to provide context.

[IceColdCubano]

Yooo what did the Herro texts say ????

They said to provide context.

What are we talking about what text? was it the one where he says he wants to stay in Miami to get a chip with Bam & Jimmy and then when Jimmy is retired he and Bam + another guy can take over to continue being contenders.

[AirP.]

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[AirP.]

2023-24 KIA SEASON PREVIEW
Why Jimmy Butler is the NBA star in need of the most help
Jimmy Butler enters another season without a dominant co-star after Miami failed to acquire Damian Lillard this offseason.

https://www.nba.com/news/2023-24-storylines-no-9-jimmy-butler-heat

[IceColdCubano]

2023-24 KIA SEASON PREVIEW
Why Jimmy Butler is the NBA star in need of the most help
Jimmy Butler enters another season without a dominant co-star after Miami failed to acquire Damian Lillard this offseason.

https://www.nba.com/news/2023-24-storylines-no-9-jimmy-butler-heat

Thats a big shot at Bam right there, and even lesser one to Herro. Hopefully they both come out and set the league on fire, it would be amazing to see a 25ppg Bam this year, while still being that DPOY player. Also Herro getting 26-27ppg on high efficiency while averaging 6 or more assist.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

2023-24 KIA SEASON PREVIEW
Why Jimmy Butler is the NBA star in need of the most help
Jimmy Butler enters another season without a dominant co-star after Miami failed to acquire Damian Lillard this offseason.

https://www.nba.com/news/2023-24-storylines-no-9-jimmy-butler-heat

Lmfao!!!! Name every 2nd best player on a team that better AND more impactful than Bam @ whoever wrote thisb

[Heat_team02]

DJ Wilson??? Was cut by the Magic.

[AirP.]

2023-24 KIA SEASON PREVIEW
Why Jimmy Butler is the NBA star in need of the most help
Jimmy Butler enters another season without a dominant co-star after Miami failed to acquire Damian Lillard this offseason.

https://www.nba.com/news/2023-24-storylines-no-9-jimmy-butler-heat

Lmfao!!!! Name every 2nd best player on a team that better AND more impactful than Bam @ whoever wrote thisb

They're talking scoring help it seems.

[dean456]

Right now I think the rotation will be something like this

Lowry(23mpg)/JRich(25mpg)
Herro(32mpg)/Robinson(16mpg)
Butler(32mpg)/Jaquez(16mpg)
Love(20mpg)/Martin(28mpg)
Bam(32mpg)/Bryant(16mpg)

Personally I think Highsmith should start at PF over Love if Spo is going to make Lowry start. He's shown to be a knock down spot up shooter and I'm less confident in Love's shooting the more his struggles persist and despite getting in shape in the offseason he's still a liability defensively.

Kevin Love in 2 preseason games, 15.9mpg, 5ppg, 5.5rpg, 25FG%, 22%3PT is just not going to cut it despite doing other little things out there.

But if this is what the rotation is then I think we might struggle to start games to start the season. Gotta hope Jimmy, Herro and Bam can carry those lineups offensively.

[eddieheatfan]

Right now I think the rotation will be something like this

Lowry(23mpg)/JRich(25mpg)
Herro(32mpg)/Robinson(16mpg)
Butler(32mpg)/Jaquez(16mpg)
Love(20mpg)/Martin(28mpg)
Bam(32mpg)/Bryant(16mpg)

Personally I think Highsmith should start at PF over Love if Spo is going to make Lowry start. He's shown to be a knock down spot up shooter and I'm less confident in Love's shooting the more his struggles persist and despite getting in shape in the offseason he's still a liability defensively.

Kevin Love in 2 preseason games, 15.9mpg, 5ppg, 5.5rpg, 25FG%, 22%3PT is just not going to cut it despite doing other little things out there.

But if this is what the rotation is then I think we might struggle to start games to start the season. Gotta hope Jimmy, Herro and Bam can carry those lineups offensively.

if lowry plays this much there wont be any left in the tank for the playoffs. realistically i think he should play 15 minutes whether starting or closing that's up to the coach to decide. believe me in his case age is indeed a factor

[AirP.]

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[IceColdCubano]

Right now I think the rotation will be something like this

Lowry(23mpg)/JRich(25mpg)
Herro(32mpg)/Robinson(16mpg)
Butler(32mpg)/Jaquez(16mpg)
Love(20mpg)/Martin(28mpg)
Bam(32mpg)/Bryant(16mpg)

Personally I think Highsmith should start at PF over Love if Spo is going to make Lowry start. He's shown to be a knock down spot up shooter and I'm less confident in Love's shooting the more his struggles persist and despite getting in shape in the offseason he's still a liability defensively.

Kevin Love in 2 preseason games, 15.9mpg, 5ppg, 5.5rpg, 25FG%, 22%3PT is just not going to cut it despite doing other little things out there.

But if this is what the rotation is then I think we might struggle to start games to start the season. Gotta hope Jimmy, Herro and Bam can carry those lineups offensively.

if lowry plays this much there wont be any left in the tank for the playoffs. realistically i think he should play 15 minutes whether starting or closing that's up to the coach to decide. believe me in his case age is indeed a factor

Every minute that old and slow potato is out on the floor is another minute that Bam & Jimmy will have to rotate over to help prevent the guard from penetrating into the paint. I am absolutely done with this cat, he is cooked, done, put a fork in him. Those 7-9 assist hell get you will mean nothing!!! when it comes at him allowing 20 points from the point guard he is guarding.

[unowen85]

The only thing Lowry can cover is his Chipotle burrito bowl with a super-sized serving of guac.

[dean456]

Right now I think the rotation will be something like this

Lowry(23mpg)/JRich(25mpg)
Herro(32mpg)/Robinson(16mpg)
Butler(32mpg)/Jaquez(16mpg)
Love(20mpg)/Martin(28mpg)
Bam(32mpg)/Bryant(16mpg)

Personally I think Highsmith should start at PF over Love if Spo is going to make Lowry start. He's shown to be a knock down spot up shooter and I'm less confident in Love's shooting the more his struggles persist and despite getting in shape in the offseason he's still a liability defensively.

Kevin Love in 2 preseason games, 15.9mpg, 5ppg, 5.5rpg, 25FG%, 22%3PT is just not going to cut it despite doing other little things out there.

But if this is what the rotation is then I think we might struggle to start games to start the season. Gotta hope Jimmy, Herro and Bam can carry those lineups offensively.

if lowry plays this much there wont be any left in the tank for the playoffs. realistically i think he should play 15 minutes whether starting or closing that's up to the coach to decide. believe me in his case age is indeed a factor

Every minute that old and slow potato is out on the floor is another minute that Bam & Jimmy will have to rotate over to help prevent the guard from penetrating into the paint. I am absolutely done with this cat, he is cooked, done, put a fork in him. Those 7-9 assist hell get you will mean nothing!!! when it comes at him allowing 20 points from the point guard he is guarding.

To be clear this isn't the rotation I want but the one I think the team is currently leading with.

Personally I want the rotation to be.

JRich(22mpg)/Lowry(18mpg)
Herro(32mpg)/Robinson(16mpg)
Butler(32mpg)/Jaquez(26mpg)
Highsmith(18mpg)/Martin(28mpg)
Bam(32mpg)/Bryant(16mpg)

Closing lineup
Herro
Jaquez
Butler
Martin
Bam

[AirP.]

“I can’t say enough about how many reps and hours and months and years Duncan’s worked on the other parts of his game,” coach Erik Spoelstra said. “It’s being recognized now, at the end of last season and in the playoffs, being able to put the ball on the floor more. His off-ball cutting, that’s really been a three-year process.

It is pretty amazing that his 3pt%, ORTG, TS% and minutes have been dropping for the last 3 seasons by a good amount too! Sometimes you limit you weaknesses for the betterment of the team, instead Robinson has strengthened his weaknesses to go from a strong one trick pony to becoming a more diverse but bad offensive player. How about stick with 3pt shooting and working on defense instead of adding 2pt shots to your offensive game.

While a starting role is unlikely, the question is whether with the Heat’s depth of wing talent there will be a definitive rotation role when the regular season opens Oct. 25 against the visiting Detroit Pistons.

Maybe not even a role for him? But his offense is more diverse now! Every single time a potentially great 3pt shooter attacks the basket, the defense has won that possession. It absolutely amazes me that in this current era of NBA where everyone is trying to get up 3s, even on fast breaks a player who's a great 3pt shoot has decided to work on a variety of ways of scoring 2 pts. It's absolutely insane to me. Had he not focused on getting 3s off in the tightest of spaces like he use to do vs now attacking the basket... he'd not be in the NBA and he'd have a 0% chance at a 90 million dollar contract.

https://sports.yahoo.com/oh-shoot-heat-duncan-robinson-130600230.html
For those who have decided to subscribe to the Miami local newspaper's paywall, feel better about your subscription by seeing the exact same story here...
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/2023/10/17/oh-shoot-for-heats-duncan-robinson-it-again-can-be-that-simple/
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