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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 9 

Post#881 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri Apr 4, 2025 3:31 pm

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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:I don’t think the Heat go anywhere near him. Doesn’t seem to be a character fit at what the cost might be. They have taken in misfits before as reclamation projects but doubt the brain trust is ready to toss in assets for a potential character loose cannon.


Maybe but we’ll see, they had no issues bringing in Jimmy and he’s a bigger head case and was older. Jas moreso young and dumb right now with mainly off court stuff but let his emotions get the best of him a little last night, it happens.

Butler was co signed by D Wade. And though Butler was a bit of a competitive head case he had zero off court concerns. I think Ja ends up staying in Memphis where they already have a comfort level with him. I don't think he's going to be requesting "Miami Only" in trade any time soon.


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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 9 

Post#882 » by MettaWorldPanda » Fri Apr 4, 2025 3:50 pm

greg4012 wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:Looking at what our potential offer for Durant would look like and how it could potentially stack against the asset filled Texas teams. Right off the bat need to match Durant’s 54.7 million and Suns can’t aggregate players

Rozier 26
Wiggins 28

For

Durant 54

These two contracts above are the easiest match near dollar for dollar. Have to get Wiggins off the books to compensate for Durant’s extension. Separate deal would have to be consummated in order to get Suns what could possibly be Jovic and JJJ.

Jovic 4.4
JJJ 3.8

for

Cody Martin 8.6

These two contracts equal 8.2 million. That gets them to Cody Martin’s expiring 8.6 million contract. Can possibly get some 2nd round picks in this separate deal as too not look too fishy with the league even though they will know we are loopholing the aggregate rules. Still nothing stoping us rule wise from making separate deal.

Now comes the pick compensation. Suns will want at very least the GSW pick this year and our 2030 pick will be of huge value to them since they flipped their pick with Utah to stock pile some earlier picks. Not sure if an extra pick in 2032 will need to be included.

Final sum parts of deal

Miami deals

Rozier
Wiggins
Jovic
JJJ
2025 GSW pick
2027 pick swap
2029 pick swap
2030 unprotected pick

to Suns for

Durant
Cody Martin
Future 2nd rd picks


Looking at it on paper it seems like a very competitive offer. On another end it looks like a bit of an overpay as well. Just wanted to put it out there.


Well balanced resulting squad with fire power, defense and depth IMO:

Larsson/Mitchell - Rookie G?
Herro - Duncan/Martin/Larsson
Durant - Highsmith/Duncan/Martin
Bam - Anderson/Durant
Ware - Bam

The more I wrap my brain around it the more I can see Riley saying phuck it and just going after Durant and seeing where the small window takes this group. Sort of like a last hurrah for the old man. I do see us drafting a point/combo guard with our pick so this could be the direction we take. It also helps that Durant is open to coming here. I have also been studying the other suitors and it's just not easy to match 54 million and compensate with assets. We actually have the right contracts to accomplish this. I would say this will be one of the more intriguing summer story lines as a frame work was already probably put in place around the trade deadline. Houston has Van Vleet's contract to throw around but then again he's been a big part of there success so they could possibly end up extending him. Spurs have some contracts to toss around like Keldon Johnson but Vassell doesn't make much sense for the Suns. Considering what our pick situation is going to be like the next few years this is certainly a move that will at very least throw cold water on the 2026 OKC. The 2028 Hornets picks is where it will get a little muddy with a 39 year old Durant. Maybe he ages like Lebron and we get lucky.
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 9 

Post#883 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri Apr 4, 2025 3:55 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:
greg4012 wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:Looking at what our potential offer for Durant would look like and how it could potentially stack against the asset filled Texas teams. Right off the bat need to match Durant’s 54.7 million and Suns can’t aggregate players

Rozier 26
Wiggins 28

For

Durant 54

These two contracts above are the easiest match near dollar for dollar. Have to get Wiggins off the books to compensate for Durant’s extension. Separate deal would have to be consummated in order to get Suns what could possibly be Jovic and JJJ.

Jovic 4.4
JJJ 3.8

for

Cody Martin 8.6

These two contracts equal 8.2 million. That gets them to Cody Martin’s expiring 8.6 million contract. Can possibly get some 2nd round picks in this separate deal as too not look too fishy with the league even though they will know we are loopholing the aggregate rules. Still nothing stoping us rule wise from making separate deal.

Now comes the pick compensation. Suns will want at very least the GSW pick this year and our 2030 pick will be of huge value to them since they flipped their pick with Utah to stock pile some earlier picks. Not sure if an extra pick in 2032 will need to be included.

Final sum parts of deal

Miami deals

Rozier
Wiggins
Jovic
JJJ
2025 GSW pick
2027 pick swap
2029 pick swap
2030 unprotected pick

to Suns for

Durant
Cody Martin
Future 2nd rd picks


Looking at it on paper it seems like a very competitive offer. On another end it looks like a bit of an overpay as well. Just wanted to put it out there.


Well balanced resulting squad with fire power, defense and depth IMO:

Larsson/Mitchell - Rookie G?
Herro - Duncan/Martin/Larsson
Durant - Highsmith/Duncan/Martin
Bam - Anderson/Durant
Ware - Bam

The more I wrap my brain around it the more I can see Riley saying phuck it and just going after Durant and seeing where the small window takes this group. Sort of like a last hurrah for the old man. I do see us drafting a point/combo guard with our pick so this could be the direction we take. It also helps that Durant is open to coming here. I have also been studying the other suitors and it's just not easy to match 54 million and compensate with assets. We actually have the right contracts to accomplish this. I would say this will be one of the more intriguing summer story lines as a frame work was already probably put in place around the trade deadline. Houston has Van Vleet's contract to throw around but then again he's been a big part of there success so they could possibly end up extending him. Spurs have some contracts to toss around like Keldon Johnson but Vassell doesn't make much sense for the Suns. Considering what our pick situation is going to be like the next few years this is certainly a move that will at very least throw cold water on the 2026 OKC. The 2028 Hornets picks is where it will get a little muddy with a 39 year old Durant. Maybe he ages like Lebron and we get lucky.


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Post#886 » by greg4012 » Fri Apr 4, 2025 4:03 pm

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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 9 

Post#887 » by greg4012 » Fri Apr 4, 2025 4:04 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:
greg4012 wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:Looking at what our potential offer for Durant would look like and how it could potentially stack against the asset filled Texas teams. Right off the bat need to match Durant’s 54.7 million and Suns can’t aggregate players

Rozier 26
Wiggins 28

For

Durant 54

These two contracts above are the easiest match near dollar for dollar. Have to get Wiggins off the books to compensate for Durant’s extension. Separate deal would have to be consummated in order to get Suns what could possibly be Jovic and JJJ.

Jovic 4.4
JJJ 3.8

for

Cody Martin 8.6

These two contracts equal 8.2 million. That gets them to Cody Martin’s expiring 8.6 million contract. Can possibly get some 2nd round picks in this separate deal as too not look too fishy with the league even though they will know we are loopholing the aggregate rules. Still nothing stoping us rule wise from making separate deal.

Now comes the pick compensation. Suns will want at very least the GSW pick this year and our 2030 pick will be of huge value to them since they flipped their pick with Utah to stock pile some earlier picks. Not sure if an extra pick in 2032 will need to be included.

Final sum parts of deal

Miami deals

Rozier
Wiggins
Jovic
JJJ
2025 GSW pick
2027 pick swap
2029 pick swap
2030 unprotected pick

to Suns for

Durant
Cody Martin
Future 2nd rd picks


Looking at it on paper it seems like a very competitive offer. On another end it looks like a bit of an overpay as well. Just wanted to put it out there.


Well balanced resulting squad with fire power, defense and depth IMO:

Larsson/Mitchell - Rookie G?
Herro - Duncan/Martin/Larsson
Durant - Highsmith/Duncan/Martin
Bam - Anderson/Durant
Ware - Bam

The more I wrap my brain around it the more I can see Riley saying phuck it and just going after Durant and seeing where the small window takes this group. Sort of like a last hurrah for the old man. I do see us drafting a point/combo guard with our pick so this could be the direction we take. It also helps that Durant is open to coming here. I have also been studying the other suitors and it's just not easy to match 54 million and compensate with assets. We actually have the right contracts to accomplish this. I would say this will be one of the more intriguing summer story lines as a frame work was already probably put in place around the trade deadline. Houston has Van Vleet's contract to throw around but then again he's been a big part of there success so they could possibly end up extending him. Spurs have some contracts to toss around like Keldon Johnson but Vassell doesn't make much sense for the Suns. Considering what our pick situation is going to be like the next few years this is certainly a move that will at very least throw cold water on the 2026 OKC. The 2028 Hornets picks is where it will get a little muddy with a 39 year old Durant. Maybe he ages like Lebron and we get lucky.


A little more context on what this could look like:

- Miami extends KD through the 2027-2028 season; 3 total seasons of KD (ages 37-39). Definitely risky, but KD is the exact archetype of the exception to the rule that actually stands to return value for the life of contract at that age

- Miami is able to utilize a top 12 or so pick in 2025 to bring on another young player to develop--I agree a PG/combo guard makes sense based on team construction and the talent pool in this draft

- During the 3-year window with KD, Miami will be able to add another young piece with 2027 FRP

- Post-KD makeup of Miami in 2028 offseason should look something like Bam (31), Herro (29), Ware (24), Larsson (28), Mitchell (30), 2025 FRP (23 or so), 2027 FRP (21 or so), with future draft picks for 2029 and 2031 onward.
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 9 

Post#889 » by MettaWorldPanda » Fri Apr 4, 2025 4:10 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:
greg4012 wrote:
Well balanced resulting squad with fire power, defense and depth IMO:

Larsson/Mitchell - Rookie G?
Herro - Duncan/Martin/Larsson
Durant - Highsmith/Duncan/Martin
Bam - Anderson/Durant
Ware - Bam

The more I wrap my brain around it the more I can see Riley saying phuck it and just going after Durant and seeing where the small window takes this group. Sort of like a last hurrah for the old man. I do see us drafting a point/combo guard with our pick so this could be the direction we take. It also helps that Durant is open to coming here. I have also been studying the other suitors and it's just not easy to match 54 million and compensate with assets. We actually have the right contracts to accomplish this. I would say this will be one of the more intriguing summer story lines as a frame work was already probably put in place around the trade deadline. Houston has Van Vleet's contract to throw around but then again he's been a big part of there success so they could possibly end up extending him. Spurs have some contracts to toss around like Keldon Johnson but Vassell doesn't make much sense for the Suns. Considering what our pick situation is going to be like the next few years this is certainly a move that will at very least throw cold water on the 2026 OKC. The 2028 Hornets picks is where it will get a little muddy with a 39 year old Durant. Maybe he ages like Lebron and we get lucky.


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It's taken some time and some serious due diligence but the path is certainly there and makes a lot of sense considering the situation we are going to be under with the potential lost pick in 2026. The core pieces coming together down the stretch here also opens this path. Ware, Bam, Durant, Herro, (Insert vet filler) with Mitchell as backup and potential bringing along a rookie slowly. We have the makings of a team that nobody really wants to deal with. At very least it's an easy sell to Micky as the team will be able to remain under the tax line and provide the precious playoff revenue.
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Post#890 » by greg4012 » Fri Apr 4, 2025 4:14 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:The more I wrap my brain around it the more I can see Riley saying phuck it and just going after Durant and seeing where the small window takes this group. Sort of like a last hurrah for the old man. I do see us drafting a point/combo guard with our pick so this could be the direction we take. It also helps that Durant is open to coming here. I have also been studying the other suitors and it's just not easy to match 54 million and compensate with assets. We actually have the right contracts to accomplish this. I would say this will be one of the more intriguing summer story lines as a frame work was already probably put in place around the trade deadline. Houston has Van Vleet's contract to throw around but then again he's been a big part of there success so they could possibly end up extending him. Spurs have some contracts to toss around like Keldon Johnson but Vassell doesn't make much sense for the Suns. Considering what our pick situation is going to be like the next few years this is certainly a move that will at very least throw cold water on the 2026 OKC. The 2028 Hornets picks is where it will get a little muddy with a 39 year old Durant. Maybe he ages like Lebron and we get lucky.


Glad to have you on this side

It's taken some time and some serious due diligence but the path is certainly there and makes a lot of sense considering the situation we are going to be under with the potential lost pick in 2026. The core pieces coming together down the stretch here also opens this path. Ware, Bam, Durant, Herro, (Insert vet filler) with Mitchell as backup and potential bringing along a rookie slowly. We have the makings of a team that nobody really wants to deal with. At very least it's an easy sell to Micky as the team will be able to remain under the tax line and provide the precious playoff revenue.


You've mentioned Brogdon in the past. He could fit the bill as a Vet Guard addition for cheap to run with that group (for whatever portion of the season he's healthy)
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Post#891 » by wadenation305 » Fri Apr 4, 2025 4:24 pm

Keep in mind that the Suns might be a little vexed from our unwillingness to do them the solid of eating Beal and giving them Butler. So they might be a little petty about us trying to get Durant.
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 9 

Post#892 » by MettaWorldPanda » Fri Apr 4, 2025 4:26 pm

greg4012 wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
Glad to have you on this side

It's taken some time and some serious due diligence but the path is certainly there and makes a lot of sense considering the situation we are going to be under with the potential lost pick in 2026. The core pieces coming together down the stretch here also opens this path. Ware, Bam, Durant, Herro, (Insert vet filler) with Mitchell as backup and potential bringing along a rookie slowly. We have the makings of a team that nobody really wants to deal with. At very least it's an easy sell to Micky as the team will be able to remain under the tax line and provide the precious playoff revenue.


You've mentioned Brogdon in the past. He could fit the bill as a Vet Guard addition for cheap to run with that group (for whatever portion of the season he's healthy)

Brogden would be an absolute perfect vet minimum bridge with Mitchell as the primary backup as the young drafted guard gets up to speed. I like were this is going
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Post#893 » by eddieheatfan » Fri Apr 4, 2025 4:40 pm

WHEN CHAT GTP GETS THE TEAM WRONG https://chatgpt.com/

You said:
did the miami heat won yesterday agaisnt the grizzlies?

ChatGPT said:
​Yes, the Miami Heat lost to the Memphis Grizzlies on April 3, 2025, with a final score of 110-108. The game was decided by a buzzer-beating 12-foot jumper from Ja Morant, who led the Grizzlies with 30 points. ​
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This victory was crucial for the Grizzlies, helping them remain in contention for a direct playoff spot in the Western Conference. For the Heat, the loss snapped a six-game winning streak and secured their spot in the upcoming play-in tournament. ​
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In the final moments, the Heat's defense faced criticism for isolating rookie Kel'el Ware against Morant, leading to the game-winning shot. Coach Erik Spoelstra acknowledged the need for more defensive support in such situations. ​
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You said:
will the heat win or lose in the play in. whats your take?

ChatGPT said:
It’s tough to call the outcome of the play-in tournament for the Miami Heat since they’ll face high-pressure matchups, but there are a few factors that could influence their chances.

Strengths:

Playoff Experience: The Heat have a lot of postseason experience, especially with Jimmy Butler leading the way. He's known for stepping up in clutch moments, which could make them dangerous in a high-stakes situation.

Coaching: Erik Spoelstra is one of the best coaches in the league, known for making adjustments and managing the pressures of the playoffs. His ability to get the most out of his roster could be key in the play-in games.

Defense: Miami’s defense has been solid all season, and they have players like Bam Adebayo who can be a difference-maker on both ends of the court. If they tighten up their defense, they can be tough to beat.

Weaknesses:

Consistency: The Heat have had some inconsistent performances this season. If they don't play their best, they could easily get caught off guard by an opponent.

Offensive Struggles: While they have some good offensive weapons, Miami hasn’t been a high-scoring team. If their shooting isn't on point, they could struggle against teams with explosive offenses.

Age & Depth: Some key players like Butler and Kyle Lowry have dealt with injuries, and while they still have star power, their depth might be a concern compared to other teams in the East.

In a single-elimination scenario, anything can happen. If Jimmy Butler is playing at his peak, the Heat are definitely dangerous. But they’ll need to avoid bad stretches and play disciplined basketball to survive the play-in. I’d say it’s going to be a close call, but if they play to their potential, I think they can make it through.

What’s your take? Do you think they’ll make it?


You said:
you did it again. jimmy butler is not longer with the heat lol

ChatGPT said:
Oops, you're absolutely right! I got carried away with the usual narrative around the Heat. Jimmy Butler is no longer with them, and my mistake for mentioning him! The current Heat roster will certainly be leaning on new leaders and role players to step up.

Without Butler, Tyler Herro and Bam Adebayo would likely be the main focal points for the Heat, and they have a strong defensive unit, too. The Heat will need to get big contributions from their younger players and play a team-oriented game to succeed in the play-in. Their defensive game could be what sets them apart if they execute it well.

The absence of Butler makes their chances a bit more uncertain, but they still have the potential to surprise in the tournament. Thanks for catching that! Do you think they'll adapt well without him?


You said:
oh man we just had this talk yesterday and you still bring the same questions and mistakes and you told me that it wont happen again. tsk tsk dont run for any type of office okay you'll let alot of ppl down lol

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Ah, I totally get it! My bad, seriously. I’m sorry for repeating myself and for that slip-up again—you're right, I should have learned my lesson by now! I definitely wouldn’t want to disappoint people running for office, haha.

I’ll make sure to keep it fresh from here on out. But hey, you still think the Heat will get through the play-in without their usual big names like Butler? I'm genuinely curious to hear what you think!


You said:
i have no idea thats why i'm asking you since you seem to be the smart app here

ChatGPT said:
Haha, I appreciate the vote of confidence! Alright, let’s break it down again with fresh eyes.

The Miami Heat’s chances in the play-in tournament come down to a few key things:

Tyler Herro’s Growth: With Jimmy Butler gone, Herro has to take on a bigger role. He’s shown flashes of being a go-to scorer in the past, but now he’s the focal point of their offense. His ability to stay consistent and make plays will be huge for them.

Bam Adebayo’s Defense: Adebayo’s defense and versatility can be a game-changer in the play-in. If he can dominate in the paint and protect the rim while being efficient on offense, Miami’s chances go up.

Coaching and Strategy: Erik Spoelstra, as always, is one of the best at adjusting. He'll have to get the best out of his role players, especially those who can contribute on both ends, like Jrue Holiday (assuming he’s on the team by then) and Caleb Martin. Spoelstra’s ability to manage the play-in's high pressure will be crucial.

Team Chemistry: Without a superstar like Butler, the Heat’s team-oriented play becomes more important than ever. They need everyone to contribute—defensively, on the boards, and in clutch moments.

They’re a scrappy team, but it’ll depend on how well they can execute as a group. They could definitely make it through the play-in, but it'll require perfect execution from their remaining core and bench players.

So, while I'm optimistic about their chances, I’d say it’s a toss-up! Do you have any favorite teams or predictions for the tournament?


You said:
neither caleb martin nor holiday are on the team. man you are really hallucinating now

ChatGPT said:
Oh no, you're absolutely right again! I completely missed the mark with that one. I appreciate your patience with me—I’ll try to get everything straight from now on!

Let me reset and give you a better, more accurate take:

With Jimmy Butler gone, the Heat’s key guys are now Tyler Herro, Bam Adebayo, and Kyle Lowry (if he's healthy). These three, along with players like Duncan Robinson and Max Strus, will need to step up. The Heat still have solid defensive fundamentals and veteran leadership, so they could definitely be competitive, but a lot depends on how those guys gel in the play-in tournament.

If Herro can keep up his scoring and be a leader, and Bam can continue being a two-way force, they still have a fighting chance. The Heat’s success will really depend on those players rising to the occasion and handling the playoff intensity.

So, now that I’ve cleaned up the details, what do you think—can those guys get it done?


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Yikes, I’ve really dropped the ball today! Max Strus isn’t even on the Heat anymore?! I promise, I’m not trying to make you laugh at my expense, but at this point, it seems like I’m just handing you comedic material, and not the analysis you deserve.

Alright, no more excuses—I’ll make sure to get my facts straight for real this time. If I had to guess the current roster, Tyler Herro, Bam Adebayo, and Kyle Lowry would still be the major players carrying the load. You’re probably right to laugh at me for this, but I’ll take the L and promise to get better!

How about we wipe the slate clean and talk about their current roster without all these blunders? Feel free to throw me any other info, and I’ll make sure to hit it right next time.


You said:
LOOOL KYLE LOWRY IS NOT ON THE TEAM EITHER YOU ARE TROLLING ME NOW LOL

ChatGPT said:
Okay, okay, you got me. I’m not gonna lie—I've totally been a mess here with the Heat’s roster. Kyle Lowry isn’t on the team anymore either?! At this point, I think I’m just making the Heat roster look like a sitcom! But seriously, I promise I’ll give you a much more solid answer from here on out.

So, let me try again, and I’ll keep it real this time. The Heat’s main guys now are Tyler Herro, Bam Adebayo, and Jimmy Butler’s absence leaves a big hole. There are also players like Jovic and Martin. I’ll stop with the mixed-up roster and stick to facts!

I totally appreciate your patience with my chaotic responses. Let me know what you think—I’m all ears and ready to actually get things right now!


You said:
HELLOOO MARTIN IS NOT WITH THE TEAM READ ABOVE

ChatGPT said:
Oh my goodness, you’re absolutely right again! This is getting ridiculous. I don’t know how I’m still getting these names wrong, but I appreciate you sticking with me through all of it. Let me reset for real this time, and no more messing around.

Without Jimmy Butler, Kyle Lowry, and others, I believe the Heat's current key players are Tyler Herro and Bam Adebayo, with some help from younger guys like Nikola Jović and Gabe Vincent. They still have their core of solid role players, but yes, definitely a bit of a different look than in previous seasons!

Honestly, with how crazy my responses have been, I’d say your take on the Heat’s play-in chances might be just as good as mine at this point. But hey, if Herro and Bam can rise to the occasion, and the role players step up, there’s definitely a chance they could make some noise.

Thanks for being a great sport! You’ve been way too patient with me! Let’s keep this chat rolling, and I promise I’ll bring the real facts.
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 9 

Post#894 » by MettaWorldPanda » Fri Apr 4, 2025 4:43 pm

wadenation305 wrote:Keep in mind that the Suns might be a little vexed from our unwillingness to do them the solid of eating Beal and giving them Butler. So they might be a little petty about us trying to get Durant.

I gave this some thought too but the Suns had to understand that this is a cap based league and it made zero sense for us to take on Beal. James Jones is also still team president. We tried to give them Butler but Durant was the only player that made sense. I put our offer out there in plain site to see and if you really look at it you can see how we really have as good a shot as anyone to get him considering the dynamics of having to match such a big contract without some team trying to give up half there squad and leaving the team depleted.
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 9 

Post#895 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri Apr 4, 2025 5:10 pm

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wadenation305 wrote:Keep in mind that the Suns might be a little vexed from our unwillingness to do them the solid of eating Beal and giving them Butler. So they might be a little petty about us trying to get Durant.

I gave this some thought too but the Suns had to understand that this is a cap based league and it made zero sense for us to take on Beal. James Jones is also still team president. We tried to give them Butler but Durant was the only player that made sense. I put our offer out there in plain site to see and if you really look at it you can see how we really have as good a shot as anyone to get him considering the dynamics of having to match such a big contract without some team trying to give up half there squad and leaving the team depleted.


Yea I don’t see that being an issue, they probably understand us not wanting Beal and plus it’s James Jones
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 9 

Post#896 » by MettaWorldPanda » Fri Apr 4, 2025 5:12 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:
wadenation305 wrote:Keep in mind that the Suns might be a little vexed from our unwillingness to do them the solid of eating Beal and giving them Butler. So they might be a little petty about us trying to get Durant.

I gave this some thought too but the Suns had to understand that this is a cap based league and it made zero sense for us to take on Beal. James Jones is also still team president. We tried to give them Butler but Durant was the only player that made sense. I put our offer out there in plain site to see and if you really look at it you can see how we really have as good a shot as anyone to get him considering the dynamics of having to match such a big contract without some team trying to give up half there squad and leaving the team depleted.


Yea I don’t see that being an issue, they probably understand us not wanting Beal and plus it’s James Jones

They probably combed the whole damn league to take on Beal and were turned down lol
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 9 

Post#897 » by DayofMourning » Fri Apr 4, 2025 8:04 pm

ESPN has Draymonds face on the front page talking about seasonal awards.
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 9 

Post#898 » by MartyConlonJr » Fri Apr 4, 2025 8:14 pm

I am not the biggest College or NCAA Finals guy and often when there isn't a major NBA draft prospect in our range or not a top pick I have trouble remembering the players and teams. Forgot that Davion Mitchell won the NCAA Championship over Gonzaga in 2021. Seems he was one of the main players. That just adds to why he is a good fit here.

I read the ESPN championship recap and my god was it disrespectful to Baylor. https://www.espn.com.au/mens-college-basketball/recap/_/gameId/401310865
It is all about Gonzaga, and mentions almost exclusively Gonzaga players. Mitchell is not mentioned. But if you read how Gonzaga got muddled and disjointed, I'm like yep, that sounds like our boy!

Great to know he probably disrupted a Championship team on the highest level under the brightest lights. You may all have known this, but I didn't remember he was there, so mentioning in case.
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 9 

Post#899 » by wade44 » Fri Apr 4, 2025 8:21 pm

What kind of contact do we think Davion realistically demands and are we willing to overpay?
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Post#900 » by dshearn » Fri Apr 4, 2025 8:42 pm

Johnny Fontane wrote:What kind of contact do we think Davion realistically demands and are we willing to overpay?



This is a hell of a question.

I have no prediction, but like you i am extremely invested in the eventual answer to this.

Mitchell was a hell of a pick up. Dude does the dirty work, and is putting his body on the line 24/7.

It feels like the dude is going at playoff intensity game in and game out.


He is probably worth a tad more then one might think, just for how he can help hide Tyler or maybe some other future offensive specialist.

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