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2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1

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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1 

Post#881 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Jun 2, 2025 2:34 pm

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Definitely need new voices in the room offensively. Personnel is only part of the equation with the stagnant offense.


Would have to assume they’ll want to add some firepower to that personnel to go with a new souped up offense too.
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Post#885 » by Slot Machine » Mon Jun 2, 2025 4:24 pm

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Not accurate at all. If that’s your take, I question if you actually watched the series.


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I watched Brunson get picked on harder than Herro and Duncan combined.

Brunson averaged 30/7 on good efficiency throughout the playoffs and led an upset of the defending champs (who also had a top 5 defense). If Herro or Duncan (no idea why you even brought him up) put up those numbers for the Heat, the last thing we’d be doing is complaining about their defense.

Thanks for posting that strong ESPN “analysis” though. Without Becky’s hard-hitting take that small guys can’t win championships, I would have been under the delusion that guys like Steph Curry or D-Wade could actually lead a team to a championship.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1 

Post#886 » by greg4012 » Mon Jun 2, 2025 4:42 pm

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Slot Machine wrote:Not accurate at all. If that’s your take, I question if you actually watched the series.


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I watched Brunson get picked on harder than Herro and Duncan combined.

Brunson averaged 30/7 on good efficiency throughout the playoffs and led an upset of the defending champs (who also had a top 5 defense). If Herro or Duncan (no idea why you even brought him up) put up those numbers for the Heat, the last thing we’d be doing is complaining about their defense.

Thanks for posting that strong ESPN “analysis” though. Without Becky’s hard-hitting take that small guys can’t win championships, I would have been under the delusion that guys like Steph Curry or D-Wade could actually lead a team to a championship.


D Wade has both the most dunks and the most blocks by a guard in NBA history. Ain't nothing small about Wade and his 6'11 wingspan.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1 

Post#887 » by HeatFanLifer » Mon Jun 2, 2025 4:51 pm

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HeatFanLifer wrote:Legit question: why is everyone so hung up on getting Durant? He could not take the Suns even to the playoff qualifier. “But he was hurt the final 7 games!” <— Some may argue. Well yes, but they were 4 games below .500 before he got hurt. What was the excuse then? If the Heat acquire a past his prime talent in Durant, then they will clearly have learned nothing after the Lowry debacle.


Suns were 33-29 when KD played this year, 3-17 when he didn’t. When KD and Booker played without Beal the Suns had a win rate comparable to the elites in the league. With KD in the court and Booker/Beal off the Suns had a +9 net rating, if you filter it down to games they all 3 actually played in its +22. Those are elite numbers.


Elite numbers in a limited amount of games with another season of wear and tear coming up at the twilight of his career. I am not denying his contribution, but what’s he gonna bring to the Heat that gets them a championship? They just got rid of Yimmy who wanted way too much money for too few games. Durant would not be much different than Yimmy a year ago. Time to reset the team. Not pin slim championship hopes on a fading star.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1 

Post#888 » by Hallstar » Mon Jun 2, 2025 4:54 pm

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Definitely need new voices in the room offensively. Personnel is only part of the equation with the stagnant offense.


Would have to assume they’ll want to add some firepower to that personnel to go with a new souped up offense too.

Any news in this direction is good news. Have some of the youngest legs in the league and at the bottom in pace takes alot of holding back.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1 

Post#889 » by MettaWorldPanda » Mon Jun 2, 2025 4:56 pm

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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1 

Post#890 » by Slot Machine » Mon Jun 2, 2025 4:59 pm

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I watched Brunson get picked on harder than Herro and Duncan combined.

Brunson averaged 30/7 on good efficiency throughout the playoffs and led an upset of the defending champs (who also had a top 5 defense). If Herro or Duncan (no idea why you even brought him up) put up those numbers for the Heat, the last thing we’d be doing is complaining about their defense.

Thanks for posting that strong ESPN “analysis” though. Without Becky’s hard-hitting take that small guys can’t win championships, I would have been under the delusion that guys like Steph Curry or D-Wade could actually lead a team to a championship.


D Wade has both the most dunks and the most blocks by a guard in NBA history. Ain't nothing small about Wade and his 6'11 wingspan.

Yes, I also watched Dwyane Wade’s career. The point is that Wade would be categorized as a small guy for the purposes of Becky Hammon’s point, even if he played bigger (which helps show the stupidity of her point).
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1 

Post#891 » by greg4012 » Mon Jun 2, 2025 5:03 pm

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Slot Machine wrote:Brunson averaged 30/7 on good efficiency throughout the playoffs and led an upset of the defending champs (who also had a top 5 defense). If Herro or Duncan (no idea why you even brought him up) put up those numbers for the Heat, the last thing we’d be doing is complaining about their defense.

Thanks for posting that strong ESPN “analysis” though. Without Becky’s hard-hitting take that small guys can’t win championships, I would have been under the delusion that guys like Steph Curry or D-Wade could actually lead a team to a championship.


D Wade has both the most dunks and the most blocks by a guard in NBA history. Ain't nothing small about Wade and his 6'11 wingspan.

Yes, I also watched Dwyane Wade’s career. The point is that Wade would be categorized as a small guy for the purposes of Becky Hammon’s point, even if he played bigger (which helps show the stupidity of her point).


IDK--if you're playing big (neither Steph nor Brunson play big) and have above average positional length (6'11 wingspan puts Wade in the top percentile among guard length), then you're not a small guard.

But, I don't really care about the Becky Hammon narrative or any of that (and I don't pay it any mind). Just had to chime in that Dwyane Wade didn't spend a second of his career operating as a small g. Just a G.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1 

Post#892 » by RexBoyWonder » Mon Jun 2, 2025 5:04 pm

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HeatFanLifer wrote:Legit question: why is everyone so hung up on getting Durant? He could not take the Suns even to the playoff qualifier. “But he was hurt the final 7 games!” <— Some may argue. Well yes, but they were 4 games below .500 before he got hurt. What was the excuse then? If the Heat acquire a past his prime talent in Durant, then they will clearly have learned nothing after the Lowry debacle.


Suns were 33-29 when KD played this year, 3-17 when he didn’t. When KD and Booker played without Beal the Suns had a win rate comparable to the elites in the league. With KD in the court and Booker/Beal off the Suns had a +9 net rating, if you filter it down to games they all 3 actually played in its +22. Those are elite numbers.


Elite numbers in a limited amount of games with another season of wear and tear coming up at the twilight of his career. I am not denying his contribution, but what’s he gonna bring to the Heat that gets them a championship? They just got rid of Yimmy who wanted way too much money for too few games. Durant would not be much different than Yimmy a year ago. Time to reset the team. Not pin slim championship hopes on a fading star.


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    Ware after 36+ minutes per
    Mitchell after starting 80 games
    Jamie getting his confidence back and his value up
    Keshad becoming a regular rotation guy
    Larson becoming a regular rotation guy
    Try to flip Wiggins/Rozier/Duncan for even worst contracts and add assets in the process - mainly extra picks.

Depending on how players develop, the draft, stars becoming available - we either repeat the process for another season or try to makes moves and contend in 2026-2027.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1 

Post#895 » by RexBoyWonder » Mon Jun 2, 2025 5:13 pm

ANY outside coach will be a welcome addition to this staff - they're treading close to becoming a a yes-men hive echo chamber.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1 

Post#896 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Jun 2, 2025 5:13 pm

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Honestly we’re dumb for believing they would bring in an “outsider” to give us a new feel and help us figure out a legitimate offense. Dragic will be coming and that may be it unless Quinn can land a job somewhere which doesn’t seem likely based on how he continues to get cut out of these coaching searches
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1 

Post#897 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Jun 2, 2025 5:15 pm

RexBoyWonder wrote:ANY outside coach will be a welcome addition to this staff - they're treading close to becoming a a yes-men hive echo chamber.


They’ve been that for years already, that’s one of our reasons for the recent downfall.
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Post#898 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Jun 2, 2025 5:16 pm

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Post#899 » by Kobewade11 » Mon Jun 2, 2025 6:20 pm

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Spo is known to meet coaches in other leagues and sports, especially during the offseason. What probably happened is Spo met or called the guy to talk x's and o's or get some ideas and media ran with that as "Heat interested in offering him a job".
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Post#900 » by MettaWorldPanda » Mon Jun 2, 2025 6:28 pm

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