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Re: Andrew Bynum 

Post#901 » by Aussie Heat Fan » Thu Jan 16, 2014 3:11 am

KingDavid wrote:I'd like a Bynum/Birdman/Oden.

Gonna take some time for Bynum to catch on to our D. We can't use him like how we're using our current big men or he'll get beat every time on a closeout on a mobile big. Hmmm....

A few posters have mentioned this and I finally believe them.

But would we need to play like that with a legit big?
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Re: Andrew Bynum 

Post#902 » by KingDavid » Thu Jan 16, 2014 3:14 am

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KingDavid wrote:I'd like a Bynum/Birdman/Oden.

Gonna take some time for Bynum to catch on to our D. We can't use him like how we're using our current big men or he'll get beat every time on a closeout on a mobile big. Hmmm....

A few posters have mentioned this and I finally believe them.

But would we need to play like that with a legit big?

Not a matter of necessity. To change our whole defensive scheme in the middle of the season would be insane to even attempt. Improbable, but not impossible.
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Post#903 » by RexBoyWonder » Thu Jan 16, 2014 3:24 am

KingDavid wrote:
Aussie Heat Fan wrote:
KingDavid wrote:I'd like a Bynum/Birdman/Oden.

Gonna take some time for Bynum to catch on to our D. We can't use him like how we're using our current big men or he'll get beat every time on a closeout on a mobile big. Hmmm....

A few posters have mentioned this and I finally believe them.

But would we need to play like that with a legit big?

Not a matter of necessity. To change our whole defensive scheme in the middle of the season would be insane to even attempt. Improbable, but not impossible.


Considering our rebounding and defensive struggles, I wouldn't be that Crazy. All these guys played in more normal scheme before, it's nothing new to them. If we do decide to after Bynum and Oden keeps healthy, it might be smarter to adjust the entire scheme.
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Re: Andrew Bynum 

Post#904 » by Aussie Heat Fan » Thu Jan 16, 2014 3:40 am

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KingDavid wrote:I'd like a Bynum/Birdman/Oden.

Gonna take some time for Bynum to catch on to our D. We can't use him like how we're using our current big men or he'll get beat every time on a closeout on a mobile big. Hmmm....

A few posters have mentioned this and I finally believe them.

But would we need to play like that with a legit big?

Not a matter of necessity. To change our whole defensive scheme in the middle of the season would be insane to even attempt. Improbable, but not impossible.

As RexBoyWonder said, it's not like it's anything entirely different to what these guys have done their whole careers up till the Big 3 era. I'd imagine they practice it anyway with Oden coming to the team at the start of the season. There's no way we're going to want Oden scrambling all over the place.
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Re: Andrew Bynum 

Post#905 » by KingDavid » Thu Jan 16, 2014 3:42 am

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Aussie Heat Fan wrote:But would we need to play like that with a legit big?

Not a matter of necessity. To change our whole defensive scheme in the middle of the season would be insane to even attempt. Improbable, but not impossible.


Considering our rebounding and defensive struggles, I wouldn't be that Crazy. All these guys played in more normal scheme before, it's nothing new to them. If we do decide to after Bynum and Oden keeps healthy, it might be smarter to adjust the entire scheme.

What defense would work best for us assuming we get Bynum in rotation as well? Which team(s) should we mimic?

SN: We should probably look to our bench more often...
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Re: Andrew Bynum 

Post#906 » by FreeChef » Thu Jan 16, 2014 3:43 am

Aussie Heat Fan wrote:
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Aussie Heat Fan wrote:But would we need to play like that with a legit big?

Not a matter of necessity. To change our whole defensive scheme in the middle of the season would be insane to even attempt. Improbable, but not impossible.

As RexBoyWonder said, it's not like it's anything entirely different to what these guys have done their whole careers up till the Big 3 era. I'd imagine they practice it anyway with Oden coming to the team at the start of the season. There's no way we're going to want Oden scrambling all over the place.


True. Plus if you watched the Indy series last year, we switched up our PNR coverage a few times throughout and didn't trap as hard as the series wore on.
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Re: Andrew Bynum 

Post#907 » by MisterHibachi » Thu Jan 16, 2014 3:44 am

KingDavid wrote:
RexBoyWonder wrote:
KingDavid wrote:Not a matter of necessity. To change our whole defensive scheme in the middle of the season would be insane to even attempt. Improbable, but not impossible.


Considering our rebounding and defensive struggles, I wouldn't be that Crazy. All these guys played in more normal scheme before, it's nothing new to them. If we do decide to after Bynum and Oden keeps healthy, it might be smarter to adjust the entire scheme.

What defense would work best for us assuming we get Bynum in rotation as well? Which team(s) should we mimic?

SN: We should probably look to our bench more often...


Indiana defense is the best in the league. Copy them. Run teams off the 3 point line, which guys would be willing to do if they have a big guy behind them (Hibbert for Indiana, Oden for us), and no shots at the rim, protected by the big guy (Hibbert/Oden). Concede the mid range shots.
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Re: Andrew Bynum 

Post#908 » by heatlespeatles » Thu Jan 16, 2014 5:00 am

I see a lot of you are changing your tune now after tonight. I was there in person to witness exactly what I knew. We need to get bigger and we need to get faster. Both equally important. We are old and slow on the perimeter. We need to get bigger inside - even if it means we will be slow. Our defense has to be adjusted.

Either that or pray they get some superhuman motivation and ability in the playoffs cuz its gonna take exactly that from Lebron and company.
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Re: Andrew Bynum 

Post#909 » by Aussie Heat Fan » Thu Jan 16, 2014 5:20 am

heatlespeatles wrote:I see a lot of you are changing your tune now after tonight. I was there in person to witness exactly what I knew. We need to get bigger and we need to get faster. Both equally important. We are old and slow on the perimeter. We need to get bigger inside - even if it means we will be slow. Our defense has to be adjusted.

Either that or pray they get some superhuman motivation and ability in the playoffs cuz its gonna take exactly that from Lebron and company.

We are slow anyway. We may as well be big. Small and slow is a pretty bad combination. :lol:
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Re: Andrew Bynum 

Post#910 » by Mars » Thu Jan 16, 2014 5:21 am

Why the Jordan Crawford Deal Helps Miami, Golden State, and Boston

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January 15, 2014
by Zach Lowe

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...The Heat have been scrounging around for another ball handler, and made some initial inquiries on Kyle Lowry and a couple of other bigger names, per sources around the league. But with nothing to offer, they got nowhere. Douglas is the kind of little guy who theoretically fits Miami’s system on both ends. He’s quick, and he’s a ballhawk who can jump passing lanes, pressure ball handlers, and generally run around a lot in ways the Heat’s defensive principles require.

He has been a league-average 3-point shooter who could do better given open spot-up looks, and the Heat would never ask him to work as anything like a ball-dominant primary backup point guard — a role in which he failed, badly, this season in Golden State.

Alas. Miami already has two players who do all that stuff better in Norris Cole and Chalmers, and those two have years of familiarity with Miami’s unique way of life. Douglas may not be long for this team, though he’s intriguing enough to at least make Miami think about which player they’d miss least — Douglas or Roger Mason Jr. — in the event they cut someone to open a roster spot.

*Mini-prediction: One of those guys, probably Douglas, will go in order to make way for Andrew Bynum. The big fella cleared waivers long ago, the Clippers (another possible Bynum suitor) are on the verge of signing Hedo Turkoglu (BALL), and we’ve yet to see Greg Oden in a real basketball game. Regardless, this is a no-brainer for Miami. They traded a guy who was never going to play, despite his prodigious pick-and-roll defense skills, and saved a ton of money.

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Re: Andrew Bynum 

Post#911 » by BIRDMAN BIRDMAN » Thu Jan 16, 2014 11:03 am

Nice, a watchout sighting finally. And for people who don't know him.....he's got some things right in the past, off the top of my head, Rafer signing, Bosh signing, what else? Forgot the rest but I think he still called some other ish too in the past. Though I remember him saying Kenyon Martin was a done deal. Also said Dalembert was a done deal as well. So there's that.....

But regardless, if it's indeed done, I wonder who we keep among Mason/Douglas.
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Re: Andrew Bynum 

Post#912 » by marson » Thu Jan 16, 2014 12:42 pm

Watchout also predicted the Ray Allen signing. I trust this guy.
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Post#913 » by RexBoyWonder » Thu Jan 16, 2014 12:47 pm

jami0528 wrote:Watchout also predicted the Ray Allen signing. I trust this guy.


He basically predicts we get every player we're rumored to get. We end up getting some and not getting others.
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Re: Andrew Bynum 

Post#914 » by MisterHibachi » Thu Jan 16, 2014 2:34 pm

What are his sources? Who is this guy? Where does he get the info? Has he told people?
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Re: Andrew Bynum 

Post#915 » by RJM » Thu Jan 16, 2014 2:58 pm

I don't want Bynum anywhere else.
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Post#916 » by HeatDaChamps » Thu Jan 16, 2014 5:25 pm

RexBoyWonder wrote:
jami0528 wrote:Watchout also predicted the Ray Allen signing. I trust this guy.


He basically predicts we get every player we're rumored to get. We end up getting some and not getting others.


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Re: Andrew Bynum 

Post#917 » by Picklewagon » Thu Jan 16, 2014 5:46 pm

Watchout gets some right some wrong. I believe he said Daelembert was a done deal too a few years ago
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Re: Andrew Bynum 

Post#918 » by nyrangers08 » Thu Jan 16, 2014 6:18 pm

You can look up some of watchout's post history on Google:
https://www.google.ca/#q=watchout218+si ... /&start=90

Whether he actually has inside info or not, his accuracy is pretty good. I think his percentages are better than the average "insider" in the media (but most of those guys probably have to make guesses when they have nothing to keep their jobs).
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Post#919 » by Altered_Beast » Thu Jan 16, 2014 10:38 pm

watchout has spoken. he along with alex travelyn are the goat posters on realgm, when they post you better read them
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Re: Andrew Bynum 

Post#920 » by MisterHibachi » Thu Jan 16, 2014 10:53 pm

What are watchout's sources? Has he revealed them or is it 'insiders'?
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