MIAMI HEAT Offseason Thread 2021

[eddieheatfan]

Wouldn't mind Donnie Nelson coming over in some kind of international scouting consultant role. Bout damn time we start pillaging some of these foreign treasures not named Beno or Belly or Yakhouba

[twix2500]

While we're having the uncomfortable conversations, when is enough gonna be enough with the Heat Captain that hasn't been a rotation player in 6 years? Dudes been out of the rotation for longer than the majority of NBA careers.

He comes off as gaming the system at this point and it’s starting to become a running joke. Give that roster spot to someone deserving. Why would he ever retire when the Heat keep giving him 2.5 million at the expense of hitting the lotto on a developmental player or rostering a veteran who can actually play. Get him in the front office or coach. Problem for Haslem is it’s not going to be 2.5 million. Love everything he’s done for this franchise but don’t become the league meme. I understand he likes to boast about what great shape he’s in and people doubting him but it all seems like fluff to keep getting Riley to pay him that 2.5. He should have been out of the league at minimum 4 years ago. Are we that desperate of a bunch that we need to pay 2.5 million to a 41 year old to enforce culture and work ethic? Maybe we do need an overhaul of the coaching staff.

My understanding is that these contracts he keeps getting were to reward him for passing up more money earlier in his career. Would a staff position pay that? Is it financed differently. I don't know tbh.

No management or coach position is paying that much

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[twix2500]

Ah, we're at that point of the summer already..the annual UD-summit. I think he'll finally decide to hang them up, but its hardly a concern of mine. People make a mockery out of it but his leadership in the bubble was instrumental in the best run this team has had in the post 3 big era. I can appreciate him feeling a need to come back this year in his "player-advisor" role to try to see this team over the top but it just didn't work out. I also appreciate him sticking around when LeSnake was backdoor recruiting vets to take back to Cleveland, it would have been easy to ring chase but he chose to stay. So I don't personally care about him continuing to cash checks but I do believe that mixup with Dwight was the last we'll see of him in an NBA uniform.

People want Spo to have a 15 man rotation

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[AirP.]

Ah, we're at that point of the summer already..the annual UD-summit. I think he'll finally decide to hang them up, but its hardly a concern of mine. People make a mockery out of it but his leadership in the bubble was instrumental in the best run this team has had in the post 3 big era. I can appreciate him feeling a need to come back this year in his "player-advisor" role to try to see this team over the top but it just didn't work out. I also appreciate him sticking around when LeSnake was backdoor recruiting vets to take back to Cleveland, it would have been easy to ring chase but he chose to stay. So I don't personally care about him continuing to cash checks but I do believe that mixup with Dwight was the last we'll see of him in an NBA uniform.

People want Spo to have a 15 man rotation

I'd rather use that spot to try to develop another player. It's starting to look more and more that there's not going to be much cap room to add anything over the minimum and couple that with probably only 1 bad pick the next 3 drafts, Miami needs to find/develop some role players, it's just one more swing that they have currently at developing a player.

It was fine the last few years while Miami was just a middle of the road team and then the last 2 they decided on the 2021 plan so keeping him around was fine but that's not the situation going forward.

[SoFlaKingReal]

Ah, we're at that point of the summer already..the annual UD-summit. I think he'll finally decide to hang them up, but its hardly a concern of mine. People make a mockery out of it but his leadership in the bubble was instrumental in the best run this team has had in the post 3 big era. I can appreciate him feeling a need to come back this year in his "player-advisor" role to try to see this team over the top but it just didn't work out. I also appreciate him sticking around when LeSnake was backdoor recruiting vets to take back to Cleveland, it would have been easy to ring chase but he chose to stay. So I don't personally care about him continuing to cash checks but I do believe that mixup with Dwight was the last we'll see of him in an NBA uniform.

People want Spo to have a 15 man rotation

I'd rather use that spot to try to develop another player. It's starting to look more and more that there's not going to be much cap room to add anything over the minimum and couple that with probably only 1 bad pick the next 3 drafts, Miami needs to find/develop some role players, it's just one more swing that they have currently at developing a player.

It was fine the last few years while Miami was just a middle of the road team and then the last 2 they decided on the 2021 plan so keeping him around was fine but that's not the situation going forward.

Who cares? Im focused on improving the top of the roster, if they don't do that, nothing else matters.

[heat4life]

I agree. Let's focus on the top of the roster. The 15th roster spot is irrelevant in most teams. Plus we have 2 two-way contract spots for developmental players. We have bigger fish (whales?) to fry and can wait until training camp before discussing that last roster spot.

[AirP.]

People want Spo to have a 15 man rotation

I'd rather use that spot to try to develop another player. It's starting to look more and more that there's not going to be much cap room to add anything over the minimum and couple that with probably only 1 bad pick the next 3 drafts, Miami needs to find/develop some role players, it's just one more swing that they have currently at developing a player.

It was fine the last few years while Miami was just a middle of the road team and then the last 2 they decided on the 2021 plan so keeping him around was fine but that's not the situation going forward.

Who cares? Im focused on improving the top of the roster, if they don't do that, nothing else matters.

You do understand you can do multiple things at once. Also one of the reasons I'd like another roster spot for development is to fill in spots if/when Miami packages more of the current talent/depth for upgrades at the top of the roster and with that, the need to have more shots at developing talent because you're not going to be able to bring in good free agents unless they're willing to take huge discounts.

[dolphinatik]

All in for Luka trade everybody..

if no Luka you keep Herro because he is a 3 level scorer. He regressed this year and only reason you drop him is if his mind isnt focused on basketball and he is becoming too diva. We need ballers not models.

[BenoUdrihFTL]

We need ballers not models.

Guess that rules out a Beno return

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[Wiltside]

All in for Luka trade everybody..

if no Luka you keep Herro because he is a 3 level scorer. He regressed this year and only reason you drop him is if his mind isnt focused on basketball and he is becoming too diva. We need ballers not models.

I highly doubt Luka is going anywhere.

[twix2500]

Steven Adams as a Heat target is interesting. It kind of relates to my idea of building the Heat in the modes of 2015 Warriors (Bogut), 2014 Spurs (Splitter), 2019 Raptors (Gasol). Having a big abusing screen setter. Obviously Bam will have to develop a quality catch and shoot game, hopefully somewhere between Duncan and Siakam. May be a plan on pushing Bam to focus as a scorer.

I can also see Butler taking his shooting game more seriously as well. I can see Spo requesting this as Butler sign his contract extension and a pitch that it will help the longevity of his game.

PG: Lowry
SG: Butler - Herro
SF: Robinson
PF: Adebayo - Okpala
CE: Adams

Lowry and Adams may cost 42 mill per in trades. So you are probably seeing Dragic, Iggy, Nunn and Achiuwa being moved to make this happen. This would put the Heat at 116 mill of contracts. Alot of room to add role players. Will have the full MLE.

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[twix2500]

Steven Adams as a Heat target is interesting. It kind of relates to my idea of building the Heat in the modes of 2015 Warriors (Bogut), 2014 Spurs (Splitter), 2019 Raptors (Gasol). Having a big abusing screen setter. Obviously Bam will have to develop a quality catch and shoot game, hopefully somewhere between Duncan and Siakam. May be a plan on pushing Bam to focus as a scorer.

I can also see Butler taking his shooting game more seriously as well. I can see Spo requesting this as Butler sign his contract extension and a pitch that it will help the longevity of his game.

PG: Lowry
SG: Butler - Herro
SF: Robinson
PF: Adebayo - Okpala
CE: Adams

Lowry and Adams may cost 42 mill per in trades. So you are probably seeing Dragic, Iggy, Nunn and Achiuwa being moved to make this happen. This would put the Heat at 116 mill of contracts. Alot of room to add role players. Will have the full MLE.

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Would really like to keep Nunn because I think Nunn, Herro and Robinson would thrive playing with Adam.

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Steven Adams as a Heat target is interesting. It kind of relates to my idea of building the Heat in the modes of 2015 Warriors (Bogut), 2014 Spurs (Splitter), 2019 Raptors (Gasol). Having a big abusing screen setter. Obviously Bam will have to develop a quality catch and shoot game, hopefully somewhere between Duncan and Siakam. May be a plan on pushing Bam to focus as a scorer.

I can also see Butler taking his shooting game more seriously as well. I can see Spo requesting this as Butler sign his contract extension and a pitch that it will help the longevity of his game.

PG: Lowry
SG: Butler - Herro
SF: Robinson
PF: Adebayo - Okpala
CE: Adams

Lowry and Adams may cost 42 mill per in trades. So you are probably seeing Dragic, Iggy, Nunn and Achiuwa being moved to make this happen. This would put the Heat at 116 mill of contracts. Alot of room to add role players. Will have the full MLE.

Watch on YouTube

There's a tiny hole in that plan. We have no Steph and no Klay. We have no Duncan and no Manu. We have no Kawhi.

[3ballbomber]

I don't think he leaves....but would seriously consider trading Bam if it came down to it.
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[Bishop45]

Let's not be one of those teams that falls victim to the delusion of grandeur by assuming every big name wants to join.

[Beenie]

Not holding my breath for Luka.

Dallas gonna bend over backwards to appease him.

The idea that Embiid could become available should the sixers blunder is intriguing.

If Philly were willing to settle, highly doubt they would, I’d trade Bam straight up for Joel.

[AirP.]

Steven Adams as a Heat target is interesting. It kind of relates to my idea of building the Heat in the modes of 2015 Warriors (Bogut), 2014 Spurs (Splitter), 2019 Raptors (Gasol). Having a big abusing screen setter. Obviously Bam will have to develop a quality catch and shoot game, hopefully somewhere between Duncan and Siakam. May be a plan on pushing Bam to focus as a scorer.

I can also see Butler taking his shooting game more seriously as well. I can see Spo requesting this as Butler sign his contract extension and a pitch that it will help the longevity of his game.

PG: Lowry
SG: Butler - Herro
SF: Robinson
PF: Adebayo - Okpala
CE: Adams

Lowry and Adams may cost 42 mill per in trades. So you are probably seeing Dragic, Iggy, Nunn and Achiuwa being moved to make this happen. This would put the Heat at 116 mill of contracts. Alot of room to add role players. Will have the full MLE.

Watch on YouTube

There's a tiny hole in that plan. We have no Steph and no Klay. We have no Duncan and no Manu. We have no Kawhi.

What if... acquiring Adams allows you to package Bam for a star?

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Steven Adams as a Heat target is interesting. It kind of relates to my idea of building the Heat in the modes of 2015 Warriors (Bogut), 2014 Spurs (Splitter), 2019 Raptors (Gasol). Having a big abusing screen setter. Obviously Bam will have to develop a quality catch and shoot game, hopefully somewhere between Duncan and Siakam. May be a plan on pushing Bam to focus as a scorer.

I can also see Butler taking his shooting game more seriously as well. I can see Spo requesting this as Butler sign his contract extension and a pitch that it will help the longevity of his game.

PG: Lowry
SG: Butler - Herro
SF: Robinson
PF: Adebayo - Okpala
CE: Adams

Lowry and Adams may cost 42 mill per in trades. So you are probably seeing Dragic, Iggy, Nunn and Achiuwa being moved to make this happen. This would put the Heat at 116 mill of contracts. Alot of room to add role players. Will have the full MLE.

Watch on YouTube

There's a tiny hole in that plan. We have no Steph and no Klay. We have no Duncan and no Manu. We have no Kawhi.

What if... acquiring Adams allows you to package Bam for a star?

We can do that now. There's nothing about Adams that makes Bam any more replaceable than Dedmon does really.

[AirP.]

There's a tiny hole in that plan. We have no Steph and no Klay. We have no Duncan and no Manu. We have no Kawhi.

What if... acquiring Adams allows you to package Bam for a star?

We can do that now. There's nothing about Adams that makes Bam any more replaceable than Dedmon does really.

How about handling starter minutes? In Dedmon's career he's had one season over 25 minutes per game... and that was 25.1
Adams is a better defender, a better screener to help shooters get open and wear down defenders and also can handle starter minutes. In Dedmon's career he's played in the low 20s, high teens in minutes minutes most of his career, his career high in minutes for a season is 25.1. The one plus for Dedmon is that he has 3pt range.

I like Dedmon as a backup center, not so much a starter.

May not matter if Miami can get Drummond with cap space or an exception.