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RexBoyWonder wrote:
We don't want a 30 PPG no defense chucker, we want a player talented enough that with our system can give you 20-25 efficient points, high assist/turnover ratio, be smart enough to know when to take over and when to let the kids room to grow, and play on both ends.
. Best of all we still preserve cap for 2021. I know many say the fit and spacing in the starting lineup with Butler, Bam and Derozan would be an issue. I don’t think it would be if you have Herro and Gallo. In addition, I feel like one of Butler and Derozan would always be on the floor and could give each other a break. Of all the scorers on the trade market he might be the best one you can get at lowest value in terms of a trade. 
Beenie wrote:On a recent Five on the Floor pod, they discussed the possibilities of a Jrue Holiday trade; how he fits in with Mia, the pros and cons of getting him over Oladipo, and vice versa, how their additions would affect 2021 FA, and the cost of such trades.
One idea that came up was if Mia acquired Jrue with Reddick for Duncan, Nunn, cap fillers. They compared the Reddick for Duncan swap to the Winslow for Iggie deal to establish precedence that Riley is willing to replace the younger player with a vet. Though, they are obviously satellite pieces around the prized Jrue Holiday possession. An interesting idea, I thought.
RonaldSeikaly wrote:Beenie wrote:On a recent Five on the Floor pod, they discussed the possibilities of a Jrue Holiday trade; how he fits in with Mia, the pros and cons of getting him over Oladipo, and vice versa, how their additions would affect 2021 FA, and the cost of such trades.
One idea that came up was if Mia acquired Jrue with Reddick for Duncan, Nunn, cap fillers. They compared the Reddick for Duncan swap to the Winslow for Iggie deal to establish precedence that Riley is willing to replace the younger player with a vet. Though, they are obviously satellite pieces around the prized Jrue Holiday possession. An interesting idea, I thought.
Pelicans are going to get a lot better offers than that for Jrue.
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dolphinatik wrote:Ethans podcast mentioned that getting Josh Richardson back is a better fit than Oladipo as far as fit and health... he might not be wrong there. How confident are we that Dipo is anything like his old self
RonaldSeikaly wrote:dolphinatik wrote:Ethans podcast mentioned that getting Josh Richardson back is a better fit than Oladipo as far as fit and health... he might not be wrong there. How confident are we that Dipo is anything like his old self
I’ve cooled on Dipo with all the talk of him wanting a max contract. Setting aside that he’s clearly not a max player, he’ll need to be the centerpiece of a team to maximize his value. I just see the potential for so many chemistry issues being at best #3 here. i don’t want to touch it
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greg4012 wrote:RonaldSeikaly wrote:dolphinatik wrote:Ethans podcast mentioned that getting Josh Richardson back is a better fit than Oladipo as far as fit and health... he might not be wrong there. How confident are we that Dipo is anything like his old self
I’ve cooled on Dipo with all the talk of him wanting a max contract. Setting aside that he’s clearly not a max player, he’ll need to be the centerpiece of a team to maximize his value. I just see the potential for so many chemistry issues being at best #3 here. i don’t want to touch it
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How would his role be different than that of Nunn or Dragic?
The only real difference I see is the plus defense.
The concerns about him wanting a max and what it would cost to trade for him are valid. Concerns about his fit seem ill-founded and just the nature of fans riding with the tide
Beenie wrote:Some anti-Kobe arguments being made here. (well about non-efficient scorers, tbc)
I was never really a Kobe fan and I often pointed to his efficiency as to why, but best believe if he became available, I would have supported Mia pursuing him - as I do now with Harden and to a lesser extent Beal.
My reasons, simply put, elite-level talent and I believe Mia would make it work.
Bishop45 wrote:Beenie wrote:Some anti-Kobe arguments being made here. (well about non-efficient scorers, tbc)
I was never really a Kobe fan and I often pointed to his efficiency as to why, but best believe if he became available, I would have supported Mia pursuing him - as I do now with Harden and to a lesser extent Beal.
My reasons, simply put, elite-level talent and I believe Mia would make it work.
Nooo... We need elite talent, but not too talented. Some of those guys don't play defense... And they're selfish
J-House wrote:According to his ig, J-Rich is in Miami rn
Beenie wrote:
Harden rightfully gets flack for his lackluster defensive effort. But I'm convinced that he's more than capable of being a suitable defender when he's motivated to be. Again, I think on this team, who has earned the benefit of the doubt of being able to get the most out of their players (i.e. Dion, JJ, many others), I think Harden would buy-in to both the defensive effort mindset as well as the offensive schemes in which he'd have to scale back some of his isolation attempts.
Some old footage of Harden putting the cuffs on Kobe:Spoiler:
RiverboatRiles wrote:J-House wrote:According to his ig, J-Rich is in Miami rn
A lot of guys maintain an offseason residence in Miami. Nothing really to him being in the city.
so are trying to bring back Waiters, JJ and Whiteside? lolDayofMourning wrote:Mine the draft, make one year deal moves. Use the first three quarters of the season to develop youth. Find your playoff roster the last quarter. Win the chip.