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Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 6.0 -Everything's Gonna Be All Wright

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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 6.0 -Everything's Gonna Be All Wright 

Post#941 » by Daffy » Thu Apr 11, 2024 3:56 am

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Sad situation, I understand the guy had no lights on but I’ve seen cars with no lights on before, the people blindly defending Haywood because they’re Heat fans make me sick


It's not even about defending Haywood because we're heat fans. The guy had no lights on. Imagine if that was you and you hit him because he had no lights on. I feel bad for him because he was helping someone but dude at least make sure you take some kind of steps to help keep yourself safe. It's crazy to me he's saying to remind drivers to stay aware and be safe but how did he use what he said to help himself.
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Post#942 » by Daffy » Thu Apr 11, 2024 3:59 am

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Welp, if we win the next 2 and the Magic lose the next 2 we play them in the play in I believe on our homecourt. If Philly loses their last game too we’re 6th :lol:

We will lose the next 2 likely


Lmfaooo. That last part is killing me because it's so **** true unfortunately. I should've kept my expectations down after we missed out on Dame. I can't believe people think he fell off and not seeing what he's done in games without Giannis.
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Post#943 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Thu Apr 11, 2024 4:27 am

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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Welp, if we win the next 2 and the Magic lose the next 2 we play them in the play in I believe on our homecourt. If Philly loses their last game too we’re 6th :lol:

We will lose the next 2 likely


Lmfaooo. That last part is killing me because it's so **** true unfortunately. I should've kept my expectations down after we missed out on Dame. I can't believe people think he fell off and not seeing what he's done in games without Giannis.


He’d be top 5 for MVP here and we’d be the 2 seed at worst lol
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Post#944 » by marson » Thu Apr 11, 2024 4:45 am

I lost some hope in this team but I will still give Playoff Jimmy and Spo a little benefit of the doubt, but it looks like the Celtics will just cruise their way into the finals just to get crushed by Jokic and the Nuggets.

Any team other than the Celtics please.
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Post#945 » by RexBoyWonder » Thu Apr 11, 2024 7:07 am

The sad/annoying thing is -

With just a little more luck/health/focus/effort we could've gotten to ECF again this year. No one except the Celtics is looking great.

But this team just couldn't step up all year. Energy is off, this build is just done IMO.


I expect us to finish 8th and lose in a sweep, but if by some miracle we finish 7 and get Bucks or Knicks, it might get a bit more interesting..
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Post#946 » by MartyConlonJr » Thu Apr 11, 2024 10:47 am

It's a shame Toronto doesn't have one more win or Memphis one less. Toronto is currently in 6th position and Memphis in 7th, and Toronto's pick is top 6 protected - so they will definitely throw at least one of our games (unless Memphis wins one) but are free to play spoiler and win one game. Both Orlando and Philly should try in their games as neither wants to chance the play-in. If Orlando loses you'd think Milwaukee (assuming still in 2nd place) would try to win to move us to 6th and avoid us.

Ah I think the permutations are too hard to digest, maybe some of the permutations mean we wouldn't be in 7th anyways...
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Post#947 » by Sign5 » Thu Apr 11, 2024 1:03 pm

Huge monumental blunder not going all in for PJ Washington. Heat suddenly look like 2021 pt to ECF LOCKS. Gafford was easily gettable too. Mavs essentially added their Battier/ Ray allen and Birdman in terms of impactful pieces. Ones Riles missed out on getting. I was upset then and hurts even more now when those prices are key cogs in defeating the Heat.
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Post#948 » by SoFlaKingReal » Thu Apr 11, 2024 1:16 pm

Sign5 wrote:Huge monumental blunder not going all in for PJ Washington. Heat suddenly look like 2021 pt to ECF LOCKS. Gafford was easily gettable too. Mavs essentially added their Battier/ Ray allen and Birdman in terms of impactful pieces. Ones Riles missed out on getting. I was upset then and hurts even more now when those prices are key cogs in defeating the Heat.


You are over thinking it. Mavs are succeeding because they found their LeBron and D-Wade. The Heat have plenty of quality role players, but lack the star power.

Jimmy/Bam simply isn’t good enough as your top two options on offense.
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Post#949 » by IceColdCubano » Thu Apr 11, 2024 1:49 pm

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Sign5 wrote:Huge monumental blunder not going all in for PJ Washington. Heat suddenly look like 2021 pt to ECF LOCKS. Gafford was easily gettable too. Mavs essentially added their Battier/ Ray allen and Birdman in terms of impactful pieces. Ones Riles missed out on getting. I was upset then and hurts even more now when those prices are key cogs in defeating the Heat.


You are over thinking it. Mavs are succeeding because they found their LeBron and D-Wade. The Heat have plenty of quality role players, but lack the star power.

Jimmy/Bam simply isn’t good enough as your top two options on offense.

Yeah its what people don't seem to come to grips with, we are successful with Bam/Jimmy when and only when we have great 3pt shooting, because the spacing it creates allows both of them to go 1v1 with their defender. As Jimmy keeps getting older this continues to go down but were only as successful as the other role players allow our stars to operate. Kirie and Doncic don't need their role players to be successful, they are the offense in essence, they can create for themselves even in double teams, in a 1v1 matchup they have the advantage all the time, they also can score at will at whatever spot on the floor, they don't need to penetrate to break you down, they can both bomb you from downtown. This build the reason why Miami is never top 10 on offense rating is because were not build that way, we play gritty, hard nose defense, force turnovers and try to find your weakness to exploit that but were always in close games, we don't have the offensive firepower to overwhelm you unless were like shooting lights out from range.
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Post#950 » by MiamiLoyal926 » Thu Apr 11, 2024 1:57 pm

We were all practically selling Jimmy to the highest bidders and tossing the season into the garbage last year for a lottery pick at this exact point… then the crazy playoff run happened.

Here we are all again… feeling the same about this team as they roll into the playoffs looking like hot garbage. Will they show that last playoffs wasn’t a fluke by turning it on again? Or will they show that we are what we are looking like.

Interesting times fellas!
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Post#951 » by RexBoyWonder » Thu Apr 11, 2024 2:03 pm

I'm Very down on the team as most of you, but honestly in a vacuum :

Terry
Herro
Jimmy
Jovic
Bam

Isn't a bad lineup, it's a nice team. Not great, but should be good.

This season the team ended up being less the sum of it's parts. When you don't have great talent, you HAVE TO create some type of chemistry or scheme to maximize the talent you have. This year, we couldn't do it. Health, luck, coaching, hunger all contributed to the fail.

BUT I'm still hoping that we get lucky, beat Philly in the play in - and get Bucks or Knicks first round, We have enough good players to look a lot better then how we've been looking.
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Post#952 » by Flash4thewin » Thu Apr 11, 2024 2:06 pm

MiamiLoyal926 wrote:We were all practically selling Jimmy to the highest bidders and tossing the season into the garbage last year for a lottery pick at this exact point… then the crazy playoff run happened.

Here we are all again… feeling the same about this team as they roll into the playoffs looking like hot garbage. Will they show that last playoffs wasn’t a fluke by turning it on again? Or will they show that we are what we are looking like.

Interesting times fellas!


I cant remember, do we own our pick next year or its something lottery protected? That would make tanking hard.
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Post#953 » by twix2500 » Thu Apr 11, 2024 2:10 pm

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SoFlaKingReal wrote:
Sign5 wrote:Huge monumental blunder not going all in for PJ Washington. Heat suddenly look like 2021 pt to ECF LOCKS. Gafford was easily gettable too. Mavs essentially added their Battier/ Ray allen and Birdman in terms of impactful pieces. Ones Riles missed out on getting. I was upset then and hurts even more now when those prices are key cogs in defeating the Heat.


You are over thinking it. Mavs are succeeding because they found their LeBron and D-Wade. The Heat have plenty of quality role players, but lack the star power.

Jimmy/Bam simply isn’t good enough as your top two options on offense.

Yeah its what people don't seem to come to grips with, we are successful with Bam/Jimmy when and only when we have great 3pt shooting, because the spacing it creates allows both of them to go 1v1 with their defender. As Jimmy keeps getting older this continues to go down but were only as successful as the other role players allow our stars to operate. Kirie and Doncic don't need their role players to be successful, they are the offense in essence, they can create for themselves even in double teams, in a 1v1 matchup they have the advantage all the time, they also can score at will at whatever spot on the floor, they don't need to penetrate to break you down, they can both bomb you from downtown. This build the reason why Miami is never top 10 on offense rating is because were not build that way, we play gritty, hard nose defense, force turnovers and try to find your weakness to exploit that but were always in close games, we don't have the offensive firepower to overwhelm you unless were like shooting lights out from range.
To be fair role players jobs are to allow the stars to be the best version of themselves. Role players jobs are to allow the stars to have space and to take advantage of a defense when they double the star. Spacing is not soley Spacing in the paint. Spacing is anywhere on the court. The biggest question is are Bam and Butler good enough to win a title. Butler was, but Bam just hasn't been good enough neither has Herro. The Heat needed another guy who can be a threat to get 30 plus anytime in the playoffs. We celebrate when Herro or Bam score 20 plus. That's not good enough.

Curry had Klay, Butler hasn't had a player play at Klay level in the playoffs

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Post#954 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Thu Apr 11, 2024 2:11 pm

RexBoyWonder wrote:The sad/annoying thing is -

With just a little more luck/health/focus/effort we could've gotten to ECF again this year. No one except the Celtics is looking great.

But this team just couldn't step up all year. Energy is off, this build is just done IMO.


I expect us to finish 8th and lose in a sweep, but if by some miracle we finish 7 and get Bucks or Knicks, it might get a bit more interesting..


If were matched up with Philly round 1 and then the Hawks round 2 with Trae back we could very easily miss the playoffs lol. A damn shame because in right there with you, 6th or 7th seed and it’s ECF worst case (if playoff Jimmy is still a thing)
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Post#955 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Thu Apr 11, 2024 2:12 pm

twix2500 wrote:
IceColdCubano wrote:
SoFlaKingReal wrote:
You are over thinking it. Mavs are succeeding because they found their LeBron and D-Wade. The Heat have plenty of quality role players, but lack the star power.

Jimmy/Bam simply isn’t good enough as your top two options on offense.

Yeah its what people don't seem to come to grips with, we are successful with Bam/Jimmy when and only when we have great 3pt shooting, because the spacing it creates allows both of them to go 1v1 with their defender. As Jimmy keeps getting older this continues to go down but were only as successful as the other role players allow our stars to operate. Kirie and Doncic don't need their role players to be successful, they are the offense in essence, they can create for themselves even in double teams, in a 1v1 matchup they have the advantage all the time, they also can score at will at whatever spot on the floor, they don't need to penetrate to break you down, they can both bomb you from downtown. This build the reason why Miami is never top 10 on offense rating is because were not build that way, we play gritty, hard nose defense, force turnovers and try to find your weakness to exploit that but were always in close games, we don't have the offensive firepower to overwhelm you unless were like shooting lights out from range.
To be fair role players jobs are to allow the stars to be the best version of themselves. Role players jobs are to allow the stars to have space and to take advantage of a defense when they double the star. Spacing is not soley Spacing in the paint. Spacing is anywhere on the court. The biggest question is are Bam and Butler good enough to win a title. Butler was, but Bam just hasn't been good enough neither has Herro. The Heat needed another guy who can be a threat to get 30 plus anytime in the playoffs. We celebrate when Herro or Bam score 20 plus. That's not good enough.

Curry had Klay, Butler hasn't had a player play at Klay level in the playoffs

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Post#956 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Thu Apr 11, 2024 2:53 pm

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Post#957 » by greg4012 » Thu Apr 11, 2024 3:03 pm

marson wrote:I lost some hope in this team but I will still give Playoff Jimmy and Spo a little benefit of the doubt, but it looks like the Celtics will just cruise their way into the finals just to get crushed by Jokic and the Nuggets.

Any team other than the Celtics please.


or the knicks
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Post#958 » by El Alonzo scowl » Thu Apr 11, 2024 3:15 pm

SoFlaKingReal wrote:
Sign5 wrote:Huge monumental blunder not going all in for PJ Washington. Heat suddenly look like 2021 pt to ECF LOCKS. Gafford was easily gettable too. Mavs essentially added their Battier/ Ray allen and Birdman in terms of impactful pieces. Ones Riles missed out on getting. I was upset then and hurts even more now when those prices are key cogs in defeating the Heat.


You are over thinking it. Mavs are succeeding because they found their LeBron and D-Wade. The Heat have plenty of quality role players, but lack the star power.

Jimmy/Bam simply isn’t good enough as your top two options on offense.

"Derrick Jones Jr., P.J. Washington and Gafford all finished with 12 points for Dallas; those three players, along with Irving and Doncic, are part of a starting lineup that is now 15-1 this season. Gafford - he of the streak of 33 consecutive made field goals that ended last month - was 6 for 6, extending his current streak of made shots to 22 and counting."

Their trade deadline moves elevated them to another level. Meanwhile, we pissed away a first with Scary Terry, overplay Patty Mills' corpse, and don't play Delon Wright. We acquired three point guards and still don't have a solution there. We did nothing to address our lack of depth at 4/5 except Niko forcing Spobot to give him more minutes with his brilliant play.
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Post#959 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Thu Apr 11, 2024 3:17 pm

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Post#960 » by greg4012 » Thu Apr 11, 2024 3:39 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
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Maybe we’re still good when Jimmy goes ham?


Every true contender in the NBA has their top player with a usage of at least 29% (LAC is exception). Top 5 seeds in both conferences have their top player with a usage of at least 29% (LAC is exception).

LAC has a unique build with a multitude of ballhandlers, versatile wings, and a depth chart that features 2 former MVPs and a 2-time finals MVP plus Paul George. Despite this, Kawhi's usage (26.8%) is still well above Jimmy's (24.4%) on the season.

Jimmy Butler has the lowest usage of any recognized top 20 player in the NBA.

The build of this roster needs Jimmy to be the top usage offensive option to have any chance at success (Herro has the highest usage on the team at 28.2%).

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