Andrew Bynum

rawa13 · Post #961 » by **rawa13** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 6:51 am

I think Bynum is mulling over a couple of firm offers, including Miami's, and is waiting to see if any team can increase the guaranteed money and/or time.

twix2500 · Post #962 » by **twix2500** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 11:14 am

rawa13 wrote:I think Bynum is mulling over a couple of firm offers, including Miami's, and is waiting to see if any team can increase the guaranteed money and/or time.

the problem is any of the team interested in him cant make a bigger offer.

AlexCRO · Post #963 » by **AlexCRO** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 11:38 am

twix2500 wrote:
rawa13 wrote:I think Bynum is mulling over a couple of firm offers, including Miami's, and is waiting to see if any team can increase the guaranteed money and/or time.

the problem is any of the team interested in him cant make a bigger offer.

its very strange that he is still out there for grabs. it looks like he is waiting for someone... i dont buy this bs that no one is interested in him plus the lack of info hmmm very strange. i do belive he wanted to go to miami or clips, and since the clips are not interested he is waiting on us but we are thorn in my opinion wich could explain the whole douglas situation right now.

BIRDMAN BIRDMAN · Post #964 » by **BIRDMAN BIRDMAN** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 12:34 pm

I have a feeling things will clear up real soon once the Heat finish up this 6-game road trip.

heater4life · Post #965 » by **heater4life** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 2:50 pm

As much I have been against the Bynum signing this silence has been very odd. Either he is a complete headcase or someone is waiting to make a play. The Heat usually linger in the silence.

rawa13 · Post #966 » by **rawa13** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 3:31 pm

Timing of the Joel Anthony trade can't be just a coincidence. We will either end up #1 or #2 in the Bynum sweepstake. Riley probably has shown him how serious Heat are by (potentially) creating a roster space, but, as usual, he wouldn't gurantee any playing time.

Bynum just needs to duke it out with Oden. A call from Lebron would help, however.

I think Miami should pick him up. The regular season now has become meaningless, with 2 teams in the Eastern Connference running away with the top two spots. It's ultimately going to be a battle between Miami and Indiana, regardless of their records. Both teams are capable of winning on the road. And all that matters is who is in the lineup, come playoffs. And Heat can't afford to get outmuscled in the paint.

truthiness · Post #967 » by **truthiness** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 3:52 pm

Can't believe this **** got to 65 pages.

I hope Bynum signs elsewhere ASAP (or the Mafia breaks his knees for good), so this insanity can stop.

Each and everyone of you who thinks Bynum gives 2 **** about basketball or winning a title is delusional.

He only cares about money (as he already has 2 titles) and he has a horrible attitude.
He would probably mess up the great chemistry this team has.

This looks like 3 years ago when the Heat signed Dampier. Some fans thought Dampier would help, but they obviously hadn't watch him play (or only saw some highlights - if there even are highlights of Dampier or Bynum). Bynum is better than Dampier as a player, but much worse attitude and character.

Let me repeat it: just because he is/was good and the Heat need a big man, doesn't mean his presence would improve the team. Collecting talent without regard for chemistry will blow up in your face. Some fans need to remember last season's Lakers (many considered them THE favorites before the season started) or the 2003-04 Lakers (considered overwhelming favorites, barely made the finals and imploded there).

HeatDaChamps · Post #968 » by **HeatDaChamps** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 4:06 pm

truthiness wrote:Can't believe this **** got to 65 pages.

I hope Bynum signs elsewhere ASAP (or the Mafia breaks his knees for good), so this insanity can stop.

Each and everyone of you who thinks Bynum gives 2 **** about basketball or winning a title is delusional.

He only cares about money (as he already has 2 titles) and he has a horrible attitude.
He would probably mess up the great chemistry this team has.

This looks like 3 years ago when the Heat signed Dampier. Some fans thought Dampier would help, but they obviously hadn't watch him play (or only saw some highlights - if there even are highlights of Dampier or Bynum). Bynum is better than Dampier as a player, but much worse attitude and character.

Let me repeat it: just because he is/was good and the Heat need a big man, doesn't mean his presence would improve the team. Collecting talent without regard for chemistry will blow up in your face. Some fans need to remember last season's Lakers (many considered them THE favorites before the season started) or the 2003-04 Lakers (considered overwhelming favorites, barely made the finals and imploded there).

I wouldve agreed with you just two weeks back. But it has gotten to the point that whether Bynum loves basketball or not, i really dont care. This team is in desperate need of a big man and cant bank on Oden surviving this season. We need another one, and if Bynum is for the taking, we just have to get him. Whether he cares about basketball, winning, or not. Nobody can deny that he makes this team better.

Mars · Post #969 » by **Mars** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 4:20 pm

truthiness wrote:...Let me repeat it: just because he is/was good and the Heat need a big man, doesn't mean his presence would improve the team. Collecting talent without regard for chemistry will blow up in your face. Some fans need to remember last season's Lakers (many considered them THE favorites before the season started) or the 2003-04 Lakers (considered overwhelming favorites, barely made the finals and imploded there).

Champion of Lost Causes

Pat Riley can teach much to troubled players. The one subject he doesn't dwell on is history.

Ira Winderman | Sun Sentinel
June 4, 2006

MIAMI — No one is quite sure when The Saint Riley School for Wayward Men first became accredited.

Perhaps it was in 1996, when Tim Hardaway went from Warriors pariah to Heat playmaker.

Perhaps it was a year later, when Jamal Mashburn arrived from Dallas with a tarnished reputation and restored it all the way to that season's Eastern Conference Finals.

Or perhaps it was in 2001, when Anthony Mason emerged as a Heat All-Star starter under the same coach who had suspended him six years earlier with the Knicks.

Pat Riley never has claimed to be a saint through his 11 combined years as Heat coach and president. But he also never has condemned even his most troubled of players as sinners.

While hardly in the business of salvaging souls, Riley's latest resurrections have the Heat on the eve of the franchise's first appearance in the NBA Finals, a best-of-7 series that begins Thursday.

Jason Williams was at the throat of Grizzlies coach Mike Fratello a year ago. Now, barely a peep from the Heat point guard.

Gary Payton earlier in his career was suspended by Sonics coach George Karl for insubordination. This season, there was a momentary snap from the veteran point guard at teammate Dwyane Wade during the first round of the playoffs, but otherwise invective reserved only for referees....

...Throughout Riley's tenure, where others saw problems, Riley has seen possibilities.

Rod Strickland. Rafer Alston. Jim Jackson. Lamar Odom.

All wore tags elsewhere of malcontent, distraction, troublemaker, cancer.

With the Heat, all contributed. Without incident. Each performing better here than there. And most never as well after departing.

"I don't want 100 milk drinkers," Riley said. "I don't mind players who have a level of defiance to them. That can always be worked out.

"I mean, I've had a few, but if they're just maliciously bad people, bad to other people, bad in the locker room, they're devious, they will be found out and will be gone."...

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Altered_Beast · Post #970 » by **Altered_Beast** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 5:02 pm

Comparing bynum to dampier is one of the worst comparisons I've ever seen in my life. To this day I'm convinced dampier was a double agent for the mavs. There's no way you could be that detrimental to a team, spo even stopped playing him late in the year for unknown reasons. I still remember a quote where spo said something like "Eric knows he is done for the year"

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RexBoyWonder · Post #971 » by **RexBoyWonder** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 5:16 pm

If Bynum is willing to take to minimum there's no reason not to try him. It will mean he's bought in to the sacrifice theme so his head is in the right place.

If he's still demanding our full MiniMLE I would pass, bad sign to his true motivation.

HeatDaChamps · Post #972 » by **HeatDaChamps** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 5:24 pm

RexBoyWonder wrote:If Bynum is willing to take to minimum there's no reason not to try him. It will mean he's bought in to the sacrifice theme so his head is in the right place.

If he's still demanding our full MiniMLE I would pass, bad sign to his true motivation.

i would give him 3 mil for one year, but beyond that no. Not going to take up cap space next year. No way

RexBoyWonder · Post #973 » by **RexBoyWonder** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 5:34 pm

HeatDaChamps wrote:
RexBoyWonder wrote:If Bynum is willing to take to minimum there's no reason not to try him. It will mean he's bought in to the sacrifice theme so his head is in the right place.

If he's still demanding our full MiniMLE I would pass, bad sign to his true motivation.

i would give him 3 mil for one year, but beyond that no. Not going to take up cap space next year. No way

It's not about the cash, it's about the mental disposition.

1 - It means he's mainly about the $, so the chances he really helps us after signing become smaller.
2 - We just can't give him the full MLE after we asked Birdman to take a pay cut, Oden agreed to sign just a 1 year deal, we're going to be asking guys to take discounts next year too. You can't go against the sacrifice theme for 1 guy, and not just for an outsider but a douchey one too.

twix2500 · Post #974 » by **twix2500** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 10:51 pm

Man I didnt think many of you thought so passionately that we were going to grab him and the Joel move was related. Honestly if we were trying to sign Bynum, we would hear about it. Unlike trades, free agents news are not kept a secret on whom is going after whom.

Pure_Basketball · Post #975 » by **Pure_Basketball** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 11:03 pm

truthiness wrote:Can't believe this **** got to 65 pages.

I hope Bynum signs elsewhere ASAP (or the Mafia breaks his knees for good), so this insanity can stop.

Each and everyone of you who thinks Bynum gives 2 **** about basketball or winning a title is delusional.

He only cares about money (as he already has 2 titles) and he has a horrible attitude.
He would probably mess up the great chemistry this team has.

This looks like 3 years ago when the Heat signed Dampier. Some fans thought Dampier would help, but they obviously hadn't watch him play (or only saw some highlights - if there even are highlights of Dampier or Bynum). Bynum is better than Dampier as a player, but much worse attitude and character.

Let me repeat it: just because he is/was good and the Heat need a big man, doesn't mean his presence would improve the team. Collecting talent without regard for chemistry will blow up in your face. Some fans need to remember last season's Lakers (many considered them THE favorites before the season started) or the 2003-04 Lakers (considered overwhelming favorites, barely made the finals and imploded there).

The funny thing is that when Miami signed Dampier and we played real centers, we weren't the worst rebounding team in the league, we were actually quite average. Now we are absolutely horrendous at defensive rebounding.

420 · Post #976 » by **420** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 1:13 am

Help us Andrew Bynum, you're our only hope.

RexBoyWonder · Post #977 » by **RexBoyWonder** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 1:18 am

420 wrote:Help us Andrew Bynum, you're our only hope.

Not really. Okafor might get back in time, and we could trade for a Kosta Koufos type player if we're desperate.

But just to be safe we should go after Bynum too, nothing to lose.

Run DLC · Post #978 » by **Run DLC** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 1:21 am

Roger Mason Jr doesn't do anything for the Heat. Riley should sign Bynum. They don't have anything to lose by signing him.

Js2k0516 · Post #979 » by **Js2k0516** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 1:49 am

Bynum can't get here fast enough. Soon enough the pacers are gonna drive a knife slowly through our backs and sign him themselves.

420 · Post #980 » by **420** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 1:55 am

RexBoyWonder wrote:
420 wrote:Help us Andrew Bynum, you're our only hope.

Not really. Okafor might get back in time, and we could trade for a Kosta Koufos type player if we're desperate.

But just to be safe we should go after Bynum too, nothing to lose.

I'd take Bynum over Okafor only because Bynum has a hook shot which we so desperately need. But I hope you're right either way!