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Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 2 - Can we get to first place?

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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 2 - Can we get to first place? 

Post#961 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri Feb 4, 2022 11:33 pm

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twix2500 wrote:Now that Lowry is back and soon Dipo, Butler still has a chance to get back into the MVP race. Butler can now freelance and up his scoring. If he can get it back up to 25 a game which he can potentially do, he should get back into MVP conversations. Image

25 - 6 - 6 is my goal for Butler
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The ship on MVP has definitely sailed but I would love those numbers. Bam I think the assists will be less with Lowry and Jimmy controlling the ball majority of the time, I’d like to see something like 23-10-3 but for whatever reason we’ll probably freeze him out on offense when we get trigger shoot from 3 like we did last night after he scored a quick 6 or whatever to start
The first 10 games Jimmy average 25.5 pts, 5.5 ast and 6 rbs. Because Jimmy hasn't played many overall games his numbers going fwd will highly impact his averages.

Now I'm not suggesting that he will win MVP, but if he gets those averages up to where they were the first 10 games and the Heat win the top seed, he definitely should finish in the top 5 in the MVP race. Staying relatively healthy of course.

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Oh yea I agree he can shoot his way up the standings and finish around top 5
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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 2 - Can we get to first place? 

Post#962 » by Shewasfly » Fri Feb 4, 2022 11:33 pm

Is Morris Sr what people really were referring to when they were clamoring for us to go big though? I mean other than his ability to actually play unlike his brother, they're the same size. We're not getting any bigger with him.

Idk. I prefer someone who can more so be depended on to generate buckets inside. I don't see that for Morris Sr. I wish we could just switch him for his brother or better yet KZ if anything.
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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 2 - Can we get to first place? 

Post#964 » by twix2500 » Fri Feb 4, 2022 11:37 pm

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The ship on MVP has definitely sailed but I would love those numbers. Bam I think the assists will be less with Lowry and Jimmy controlling the ball majority of the time, I’d like to see something like 23-10-3 but for whatever reason we’ll probably freeze him out on offense when we get trigger shoot from 3 like we did last night after he scored a quick 6 or whatever to start
The first 10 games Jimmy average 25.5 pts, 5.5 ast and 6 rbs. Because Jimmy hasn't played many overall games his numbers going fwd will highly impact his averages.

Now I'm not suggesting that he will win MVP, but if he gets those averages up to where they were the first 10 games and the Heat win the top seed, he definitely should finish in the top 5 in the MVP race. Staying relatively healthy of course.

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Oh yea I agree he can shoot his way up the standings and finish around top 5


Getting top 5 in MVP votes is a huge accomplishment. It's something Heat fans should be pushing for and recognizing. Its in reach, the makeup of the team gives it potential.

Staying relatively healthy going forward. The next 10 games the Heat should be making a push to take a stern lead at the 1 seed
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Post#965 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri Feb 4, 2022 11:45 pm

Morris is averaging 16-5-2, 38% from 3 on 5 attempts. Last year he shot 47% from 3 :o

If we can get him back to shooting 47% or meet a middleground between that and where he is now he’ll be a huge addition. Spo loves starting small but it seems he may be open to running some bigger lineups with Bam at the 4 when he brings the subs in. Based on the last couple games at least. We’ll see what happens but any way you slice it Morris would be a huge addition on both sides of the ball.

Lowry/Dipo
Jimmy/Herro
Morris/Strus or Martin
Tucker/Martin
Bam/Dedmon or Yurt

Could obviously make another move too. Considering guys like DFS who makes Pennies and fits perfect in our system as the backup 4.

That’s a tough team and outside of Herro and Strus they can all defend (assuming Spo goes with Dedmon over Yurt.)
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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 2 - Can we get to first place? 

Post#966 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri Feb 4, 2022 11:47 pm

twix2500 wrote:
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twix2500 wrote:The first 10 games Jimmy average 25.5 pts, 5.5 ast and 6 rbs. Because Jimmy hasn't played many overall games his numbers going fwd will highly impact his averages.

Now I'm not suggesting that he will win MVP, but if he gets those averages up to where they were the first 10 games and the Heat win the top seed, he definitely should finish in the top 5 in the MVP race. Staying relatively healthy of course.

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Oh yea I agree he can shoot his way up the standings and finish around top 5


Getting top 5 in MVP votes is a huge accomplishment. It's something Heat fans should be pushing for and recognizing. Its in reach, the makeup of the team gives it potential.

Staying relatively healthy going forward. The next 10 games the Heat should be making a push to take a stern lead at the 1 seed


Then we have a stretch to close it out at home to end the season.

I definitely want everyone recognized, it’s part of what hass annoyed me the most about the injuries. I seriously believe Jimmy would’ve won mvp at full health. Then that’s all nba probably with him and Bam on all nba and all defense also. Bam fighting for DPOY, herro 6 man, Spo COY.

We have so many guys that will be recognized if we can just stay healthy for a full season and run away with the 1st seed
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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 2 - Can we get to first place? 

Post#967 » by oreon » Fri Feb 4, 2022 11:50 pm

twix2500 wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
twix2500 wrote:The first 10 games Jimmy average 25.5 pts, 5.5 ast and 6 rbs. Because Jimmy hasn't played many overall games his numbers going fwd will highly impact his averages.

Now I'm not suggesting that he will win MVP, but if he gets those averages up to where they were the first 10 games and the Heat win the top seed, he definitely should finish in the top 5 in the MVP race. Staying relatively healthy of course.

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Oh yea I agree he can shoot his way up the standings and finish around top 5


Getting top 5 in MVP votes is a huge accomplishment. It's something Heat fans should be pushing for and recognizing. Its in reach, the makeup of the team gives it potential.

Staying relatively healthy going forward. The next 10 games the Heat should be making a push to take a stern lead at the 1 seed


I don't think it matters if you're top 5 in voting if you don't win. No one really brings it up in the legacy discussion. Making all NBA is more important for Butler especially for his HOF campaign. He has a good chance to make 3rd team all NBA if heat finish top 2 in the East and he can bring his averages up a bit
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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 2 - Can we get to first place? 

Post#968 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Feb 5, 2022 12:32 am

Heat In: Marcus Morris
Heat out: Duncan, KZ, 2nd round pick, 1st round pick

Clippers out: Marcus Morris, 2nd round pick
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Thunder in: Kz, 2 2nd round picks
Thunder out: Maledon, protections on Miamis 1st to unlock the 1st we send to LAC

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Post#969 » by twix2500 » Sat Feb 5, 2022 12:38 am

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Oh yea I agree he can shoot his way up the standings and finish around top 5


Getting top 5 in MVP votes is a huge accomplishment. It's something Heat fans should be pushing for and recognizing. Its in reach, the makeup of the team gives it potential.

Staying relatively healthy going forward. The next 10 games the Heat should be making a push to take a stern lead at the 1 seed


I don't think it matters if you're top 5 in voting if you don't win. No one really brings it up in the legacy discussion. Making all NBA is more important for Butler especially for his HOF campaign. He has a good chance to make 3rd team all NBA if heat finish top 2 in the East and he can bring his averages up a bit
The marketing of an MVP candidate does matter. I do not think Butler will ever win MVP but being a candidate does hold water that will carry over in the media. Many people still do not respect Bulter game, even many Heat fans. Stephen A Smith was calling Butler playing for the Heat as just another guy. Being an MVP candidate it ends much of the disrespect. Butler deserve some media respect as a leader of the Heat.

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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 2 - Can we get to first place? 

Post#971 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Feb 5, 2022 1:03 am

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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 2 - Can we get to first place? 

Post#973 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sat Feb 5, 2022 1:29 am

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Morris is averaging 16-5-2, 38% from 3 on 5 attempts. Last year he shot 47% from 3 :o

If we can get him back to shooting 47% or meet a middleground between that and where he is now he’ll be a huge addition. Spo loves starting small but it seems he may be open to running some bigger lineups with Bam at the 4 when he brings the subs in. Based on the last couple games at least. We’ll see what happens but any way you slice it Morris would be a huge addition on both sides of the ball.

Lowry/Dipo
Jimmy/Herro
Morris/Strus or Martin
Tucker/Martin
Bam/Dedmon or Yurt

Could obviously make another move too. Considering guys like DFS who makes Pennies and fits perfect in our system as the backup 4.

That’s a tough team and outside of Herro and Strus they can all defend (assuming Spo goes with Dedmon over Yurt.)

Markieff will be the backup depth at the 4 spot. Watching the Cavs game and this starting lineup matches up well against a team like the Cavs who we may see in the playoffs. If we bring Marcus in we will still have to keep Kieff in mind for a role off the bench. The story is reuniting the twins.
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Post#974 » by wade44 » Sat Feb 5, 2022 1:55 am

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Post#975 » by Beenie » Sat Feb 5, 2022 2:03 am

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Beenie wrote:If the Blazers are sellers, hello Lillard.

I'd hope Riley is working those lines aggressively; like, Bam in a package, aggressive.

I've been saying that I have a feeling we'll trade Bam for someone like Beal, and Lillard fits the bill.

By the way, here are the Miami Heat's chances of being LeBron James' next team according to oddsmakers. We all know LeBron is a triple pain in the ****, but Pat will make it happen if James wants to finish his career in Miami. Perhaps a trade for LeBron, considering his age, could focus on Kyle and some draft picks. This is how MaximBet ranked the odds for the elder James’ next team:

Cleveland Cavaliers +300
Miami Heat +400
Dallas Mavericks +500
Washington Wizards +500
New Orleans Pelicans +800
San Antonio Spurs +1000
Phoenix Suns +1000
Golden State Warriors +1000
Los Angeles Clippers +1500
Chicago Bulls +1200
Atlanta Hawks +1500
Boston Celtics +2000
Philadelphia 76ers +2500
New York Knicks +5000


I love Dame. Bam for Dame sets the franchise back years and years.


I’m skeptical about Bam’s ceiling and suspect it to look very similar to what we seen already from him which is a 3rd best player on a contending team type.

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Post#976 » by Beenie » Sat Feb 5, 2022 2:05 am

This potential Harden for Simmons swap is worrisome as a Heat fan.

Both teams would get significantly better.
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Post#977 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sat Feb 5, 2022 2:13 am

Beenie wrote:This potential Harden for Simmons swap is worrisome as a Heat fan.

Both teams would get significantly better.

We better get size that Spo will play with Bam cause if not we won’t advance far in a 7 game series relying on Caleb Martin as a backup or emergency 4.
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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 2 - Can we get to first place? 

Post#978 » by harlem_ball » Sat Feb 5, 2022 2:30 am

MettaWorldPanda wrote:
Beenie wrote:This potential Harden for Simmons swap is worrisome as a Heat fan.

Both teams would get significantly better.

We better get size that Spo will play with Bam cause if not we won’t advance far in a 7 game series relying on Caleb Martin as a backup or emergency 4.
It's been this forever. If Miami meets the Suns in the finals they will have to deal w Ayton and our boy Crowder as well as Booker and Paul. I don't think the Heat can matchup w/o Yurt.
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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 2 - Can we get to first place? 

Post#979 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sat Feb 5, 2022 2:58 am

harlem_ball wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:
Beenie wrote:This potential Harden for Simmons swap is worrisome as a Heat fan.

Both teams would get significantly better.

We better get size that Spo will play with Bam cause if not we won’t advance far in a 7 game series relying on Caleb Martin as a backup or emergency 4.
It's been this forever. If Miami meets the Suns in the finals they will have to deal w Ayton and our boy Crowder as well as Booker and Paul. I don't think the Heat can matchup w/o Yurt.

We might not even get passed the Cavs and that frontline rotation of Allen, Mobley, and Love. Love is looking like vintage Love these days. He don’t miss from 3
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Post#980 » by harlem_ball » Sat Feb 5, 2022 3:38 am

MettaWorldPanda wrote:
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MettaWorldPanda wrote:We better get size that Spo will play with Bam cause if not we won’t advance far in a 7 game series relying on Caleb Martin as a backup or emergency 4.
It's been this forever. If Miami meets the Suns in the finals they will have to deal w Ayton and our boy Crowder as well as Booker and Paul. I don't think the Heat can matchup w/o Yurt.

We might not even get passed the Cavs and that frontline rotation of Allen, Mobley, and Love. Love is looking like vintage Love these days. He don’t miss from 3
Yea Cavs have given em big time problems.

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