2023 Heat Season Thread - Let me dream edition

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Agreed—do you think Jimmy just needed to get a feel for the Nuggets so he was probing and assessing how they play? If so, it didn’t help how scorching hot Denver came out. It was basically a 20 point lead before Miami could even get a feel for their opponent.

I’ve always said that this Jimmy-led squad is a counterpunch team. Denver just so happened to land a few too many haymakers early

No idea, this year he played at minimum effort a bunch pre all-star break because of his knee and not wanting it to be a problem but games 3-5 of the ECF and game 1 of the Finals he just didn't give much effort at all. I hope it's because they were up in the ECF and decided not to put much work on knee/ankle to heal but that lead to not having an extra week off before the finals which he probably really needed. Game 1, his effort level wasn't there, hopefully Butler and Spoelstra expected a loss in Denver against a well rested team use to the altitude and took it easy (which he definitely looked like he did).

Last year Butler was hurt in game 2 of the ECF, Perkins and Scalabrine leaked that he had injections in the knee for game 6 and 7 and was great in those games, so it would seem it's a pain tolerance issue but masking a pain could lead to doing something you shouldn't do and injuring yourself but.. it's the finals, you do what you have to do, getting to the finals is sometimes a once or twice in a lifetime thing.

Jimmy has already gotten paid. He's got another $146 million in guaranteed money left on his contract. If an injection can help, I would expect him to take the shots and risk the injury.

[ShulaDon92]

It actually hit me last night. Ive been following the Heat so long I didn't think about it but it's now true:

We are Lakers East. Our success has been as consistent as the Lakers in getting successful results.

We're an elite nba franchise. Top shelf.

Not bad at all. Our run is Spurs-like

Gotta try to ship it tho

-SHULA

[3ballbomber]

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3%, 30%, 0%, 6ers, Boston, Fakers, Chicken Nuggets....i don't give a f*ck....Miami 2023 NBA Champions

[iamoti]

Gabe and Max about to get payed. I'm more inclined to pay Gabe but what would be the max we should offer for him. I'm finding it hard to judge how much he will command on the open market. Any chance we could get him around 4y/50m? Max i would let go if he goes over 10m/y , i think its easier to replace him. If Cain develops a good 3pt shot he can get some of his minutes.

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[Wiltside]

Gabe and Max about to get payed. I'm more inclined to pay Gabe but what would be the max we should offer for him. I'm finding it hard to judge how much he will command on the open market. Any chance we could get him around 4y/50m? Max i would let go if he goes over 10m/y , i think its easier to replace him. If Cain develops a good 3pt shot he can get some of his minutes.

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Given the composition of our team, Gabe is basically mandatory unless we’re flipping Lowry and assets for a PG upgrade.

I think the deals for Vincent and Strus are going to shock us, quite honestly. It’s going to be ugly, particularly Gabe.

Strus might be a goner if he gets $10m+. We’d have to back Herro and Duncan in to replace his production, or develop another 2 like Cain as you said. Still feel we’d want a knock down shooter in that spot who can defend. We’ll see I guess.

[AirP.]

Gabe and Max about to get payed. I'm more inclined to pay Gabe but what would be the max we should offer for him. I'm finding it hard to judge how much he will command on the open market. Any chance we could get him around 4y/50m? Max i would let go if he goes over 10m/y , i think its easier to replace him. If Cain develops a good 3pt shot he can get some of his minutes.

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Given the composition of our team, Gabe is basically mandatory unless we’re flipping Lowry and assets for a PG upgrade.

I think the deals for Vincent and Strus are going to shock us, quite honestly. It’s going to be ugly, particularly Gabe.

Strus might be a goner if he gets $10m+. We’d have to back Herro and Duncan in to replace his production, or develop another 2 like Cain as you said. Still feel we’d want a knock down shooter in that spot who can defend. We’ll see I guess.

I'd still let both walk unless they get somewhat reasonable contracts like C.Martin got. A small scoring combo guard isn't that hard to replace for instance Miami let Nunn walk, I watched Chicago in the 2010s keep finding scoring guards in N.Robinson, J.Lucas III, A.Brooks, DJ Augustine(who was released twice that season before Chicago signed him), they just have to be put in a scoring role (which most aren't put in) and I think D.Robinson is back enough to let Strus walk and you've already spent that money on Robinson. Don't let some very good play late in the season create more bad contracts. If Miami doesn't bring back Love or a legit PF who's ready (Jovic may be a couple seasons away) this team may not be good enough next year in the regular season. Making these signings based off late season good play is how Miami keeps ending up with bad contracts, 30-11 anyone? Also, if Herro is still in Miami, you can remove probably 20 shots away from everyone else on the roster next year when he's getting paid big bucks and he already shoots a ton on his rookie contract, so Herro, Butler and Bam are taking what... 45-50 shots, that leaves around 30-40 shots for the rest of the team... Martin, Robinson, Strus, Vincent, Jovic/Love, Lowry, backup center, 1st round pick?

I think Robinson being part of that Boston group SMS chat that bothered him helped change his mind set to being either a F it I'm doing something and I think this has overall changed his long-term mindset.

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[iamoti]

Gabe and Max about to get payed. I'm more inclined to pay Gabe but what would be the max we should offer for him. I'm finding it hard to judge how much he will command on the open market. Any chance we could get him around 4y/50m? Max i would let go if he goes over 10m/y , i think its easier to replace him. If Cain develops a good 3pt shot he can get some of his minutes.

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Given the composition of our team, Gabe is basically mandatory unless we’re flipping Lowry and assets for a PG upgrade.

I think the deals for Vincent and Strus are going to shock us, quite honestly. It’s going to be ugly, particularly Gabe.

Strus might be a goner if he gets $10m+. We’d have to back Herro and Duncan in to replace his production, or develop another 2 like Cain as you said. Still feel we’d want a knock down shooter in that spot who can defend. We’ll see I guess.

I'd still let both walk unless they get somewhat reasonable contracts like C.Martin got. A small scoring combo guard isn't that hard to replace for instance Miami let Nunn walk, I watched Chicago in the 2010s keep finding scoring guards in N.Robinson, J.Lucas III, A.Brooks, DJ Augustine(who was released twice that season before Chicago signed him), they just have to be put in a scoring role (which most aren't put in) and I think D.Robinson is back enough to let Strus walk and you've already spent that money on Robinson. Don't let some very good play late in the season create more bad contracts. If Miami doesn't bring back Love or a legit PF who's ready (Jovic may be a couple seasons away) this team may not be good enough next year in the regular season. Making these signings based off late season good play is how Miami keeps ending up with bad contracts, 30-11 anyone? Also, if Herro is still in Miami, you can remove probably 20 shots away from everyone else on the roster next year when he's getting paid big bucks and he already shoots a ton on his rookie contract, so Herro, Butler and Bam are taking what... 45-50 shots, that leaves around 30-40 shots for the rest of the team... Martin, Robinson, Strus, Vincent, Jovic/Love, Lowry, backup center, 1st round pick?

I think Robinson being part of that Boston group SMS chat that bothered him helped change his mind set to being either a F it I'm doing something and I think this has overall changed his long-term mindset.

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Can't compare Nunn with Gabe honestly. Gabe is putting 20ppg+ in the NBA finals.

What options do we have at PG if we let him go? Lowry is expiring and we might want to trade him.

I would go 4/60 even for Gabe. He proved his worth. And to think he came as a 2 guard and we developed him as a 1. He can still grow as a player. He is a baller.

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Given the composition of our team, Gabe is basically mandatory unless we’re flipping Lowry and assets for a PG upgrade.

I think the deals for Vincent and Strus are going to shock us, quite honestly. It’s going to be ugly, particularly Gabe.

Strus might be a goner if he gets $10m+. We’d have to back Herro and Duncan in to replace his production, or develop another 2 like Cain as you said. Still feel we’d want a knock down shooter in that spot who can defend. We’ll see I guess.

I'd still let both walk unless they get somewhat reasonable contracts like C.Martin got. A small scoring combo guard isn't that hard to replace for instance Miami let Nunn walk, I watched Chicago in the 2010s keep finding scoring guards in N.Robinson, J.Lucas III, A.Brooks, DJ Augustine(who was released twice that season before Chicago signed him), they just have to be put in a scoring role (which most aren't put in) and I think D.Robinson is back enough to let Strus walk and you've already spent that money on Robinson. Don't let some very good play late in the season create more bad contracts. If Miami doesn't bring back Love or a legit PF who's ready (Jovic may be a couple seasons away) this team may not be good enough next year in the regular season. Making these signings based off late season good play is how Miami keeps ending up with bad contracts, 30-11 anyone? Also, if Herro is still in Miami, you can remove probably 20 shots away from everyone else on the roster next year when he's getting paid big bucks and he already shoots a ton on his rookie contract, so Herro, Butler and Bam are taking what... 45-50 shots, that leaves around 30-40 shots for the rest of the team... Martin, Robinson, Strus, Vincent, Jovic/Love, Lowry, backup center, 1st round pick?

I think Robinson being part of that Boston group SMS chat that bothered him helped change his mind set to being either a F it I'm doing something and I think this has overall changed his long-term mindset.

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Can't compare Nunn with Gabe honestly. Gabe is putting 20ppg+ in the NBA finals.

What options do we have at PG if we let him go? Lowry is expiring and we might want to trade him.

I would go 4/60 even for Gabe. He proved his worth. And to think he came as a 2 guard and we developed him as a 1. He can still grow as a player. He is a baller.

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Somewhere in this league there's a guard on someone's bench that can average 40% FG 33% 3pt and score 9 ppg ... that we can get for a 2nd round pick or just a minimum salary.

[ShulaDon92]

We just stole homecourt from the nuggets in the nba finals, you robots.

Enjoy!



-SHULA

[Kobewade11]

Where’s bballfreak? I was going through one of the older season threads and man was putting on a clinic while this place was in full panic

[ShulaDon92]

Let's face facts, bot brehz,
If Spo pulls this off this will be the greatest heat team of all time. Period.

-SHULA

[3ballbomber]

Where’s bballfreak? I was going through one of the older season threads and man was putting on a clinic while this place was in full panic

Dude's been sick of this place. Don't blame him w/ the amount of crap we gotta read on here. We need more level headed, tough, positive posters.

[ShulaDon92]

Where’s bballfreak? I was going through one of the older season threads and man was putting on a clinic while this place was in full panic

Dude's been sick of this place. Don't blame him w/ the amount of crap we gotta read on here. We need more level headed, tough, positive posters.

Most league cats are already on vacation. They will catch up later. Some users were banned for fighting as well, saw it on the front page news

-SHULA

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On one of the national NBA podcasts, possibly the Bill Simmons podcast they were putting Vincent's next contract in the same range as Tyus Jones saying around 10-15 mil.

I wouldn't do a contract that high, around C.Martin's contract although he fits in with what Miami does even though his talent isn't anything special. He will be a starter moving forward but I'm not sure how Miami expects to have a good enough defense with a Vincent/Herro backcourt and putting 40-45 million of the team's salary into that backcourt.

[oreon]

On one of the national NBA podcasts, possibly the Bill Simmons podcast they were putting Vincent's next contract in the same range as Tyus Jones saying around 10-15 mil.

I wouldn't do a contract that high, around C.Martin's contract although he fits in with what Miami does even though his talent isn't anything special. He will be a starter moving forward but I'm not sure how Miami expects to have a good enough defense with a Vincent/Herro backcourt and putting 40-45 million of the team's salary into that backcourt.

Let him go. What Caleb, Gabe, Duncan are doing is unsustainable. Like in the bubble they can get hot for a playoff run, but we should expect reversion to the mean next season. We've seen this before with Dion, JJ.
We have a 1st round pick best to use that on a long term point guard. We've been great at this middling picks turning them into above average starters i.e Herro, Bam(an allstar). I'd use that for a long term solution in pg for the next decade.
I think Jovic will come good in the PF position. He should be able to do what Love does but maybe not as a good rebounder. So we can spare that pick for pg

And I hope Gabe, Struss get paid. I like seeing undrafted guys get their money. But not with the Heat unless we can see this type of production for at least 2 full seasons.

[greg4012]

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[AirP.]

On one of the national NBA podcasts, possibly the Bill Simmons podcast they were putting Vincent's next contract in the same range as Tyus Jones saying around 10-15 mil.

I wouldn't do a contract that high, around C.Martin's contract although he fits in with what Miami does even though his talent isn't anything special. He will be a starter moving forward but I'm not sure how Miami expects to have a good enough defense with a Vincent/Herro backcourt and putting 40-45 million of the team's salary into that backcourt.

Let him go. What Caleb, Gabe, Duncan are doing is unsustainable. Like in the bubble they can get hot for a playoff run, but we should expect reversion to the mean next season. We've seen this before with Dion, JJ.
We have a 1st round pick best to use that on a long term point guard. We've been great at this middling picks turning them into above average starters i.e Herro, Bam(an allstar). I'd use that for a long term solution in pg for the next decade.
I think Jovic will come good in the PF position. He should be able to do what Love does but maybe not as a good rebounder. So we can spare that pick for pg

And I hope Gabe, Struss get paid. I like seeing undrafted guys get their money. But not with the Heat unless we can see this type of production for at least 2 full seasons.

I believe Miami should let them walk if they want/can get more than Martin and just start developing the next 3pt shooters. Although I think Strus is better than Robinson, Robinson is under contract and looks like he's finally got past his mental issues so why try to trade him as a negative asset, you might as well keep him.

[AirP.]

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