Miami Heat 2023 Off-Season Thread 1.0 - Give them Cancun!!!

[IceColdCubano]

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Barry needs to shut it.
Is there more than one basketball? How would beal and Dame ever coexist? Did he not see Luka and Kyrie lose 12 straight games or some **** and Dallas not make playoffs? There's this thing called defense. Worst idea ever. Terrible team building with fit and cap. The day Micky pays 265M is the day Bam doesn't have a ball bounce off his foot or hands for a turnover in a game.

Barry isn't being serious, he is just trolling people I bet. He is problably always tire of hearing about Miami whiffing on whales and is all in this offseason like I have never seen. He is usually the number 1 mouth piece for the Heat executives when they want a message out to the league via a tweet. Take if for a grain of salt for now, just know that we were thinking of tanking and foregoing our playoffs and today were reliving the delight that was a long successful playoff run that got to within 3 games of a championship, and now were here talking about 3 top superstars, in Lillard, Beal, Kyrie whom all have interest in Miami, without knowing the plethora of more players whom are intrigue at coming here, after seeing and validating the last four years of playoff success. Not to fathom, all the other players who sat on their couch watching the finals whom all had the opportunity of making their way here and chose not to "Durant" push hard enough like some say. Regretting and wondering what if....so yeah be delighted, be excited, its gonna be a hell of ride in these next couple months of free agency.

[Lennyzinho]

Means about as much lol

Lmao. Beal averaged 23.2 pts, 3.9 rebounds, 5.4 assists last year in 2022-2023 season... Beal has never in his career posted a stat line of 30-7-6... he's a career 22-4-4 guy. His best year was probably 2019-2020 when he avg 30.1 4.2 boards 6.2 assists... some random Twitter dudes talking Beal up and yall drinking the kool-aid. Yikes.

Dude has a 15% trade kicker... "yea Beal will TOTALLY waive it!" Yea ok... Things Beal has done consistently in his career. Miss more and more games, chase the money, and watch his .40% avg from 3 first five years drop to 35% last four years. Everyone whines nonstop about Jimmy and his knees and missing games and now yall wanna risk it all on Beal and KP. Can't make this stuff up.

My post was saying that both tweets are meaningless

What’s your desired approach to improve the team?

We should keep Duncan. He's healthy finally and clearly developed more moves and grew as a player and him and Bam are always dangerous together.
I want no part in Strus other than a S&T to facilitate a trade. Gabe only if cheap.
Much more interested in making a move and securing a player like PJ Washington or Hachimura or Naz Reid or Jerami Grant. They add size but also add offense.
Not totally against adding Beal fwiw, but if we give up Herro, Dipo has to be included. The Ringer has herro as more valuable trade asset than Beal. I dont understand why so many here think Beal is so valuable. He doesn't play, his team sucks, he doesn't make others around him better... he's clearly a quality player and scorer but you want to pay 48-55M a year for that?
I also wonder what Grant Williams gets as a FA. I wouldn't mind him with the MLE.
And I want to see jamal Cain and bouyea and Jovic play. Giving big money to streaky inconsistent Gabe and strus is a bad call imo. They're solid but on Caleb martin money type contracts. And keep Love at minimum also.

[Rapaz]

Barry isn't being serious, he is just trolling people I bet. He is problably always tire of hearing about Miami whiffing on whales and is all in this offseason like I have never seen. He is usually the number 1 mouth piece for the Heat executives when they want a message out to the league via a tweet. Take if for a grain of salt for now, just know that we were thinking of tanking and foregoing our playoffs and today were reliving the delight that was a long successful playoff run that got to within 3 games of a championship, and now were here talking about 3 top superstars, in Lillard, Beal, Kyrie whom all have interest in Miami, without knowing the plethora of more players whom are intrigue at coming here, after seeing and validating the last four years of playoff success. Not to fathom, all the other players who sat on their couch watching the finals whom all had the opportunity of making their way here and chose not to "Durant" push hard enough like some say. Regretting and wondering what if....so yeah be delighted, be excited, its gonna be a hell of ride in these next couple months of free agency.

I need this chit resolved by the weekend.

[twix2500]

Just getting home and watching Woj report on Beal. And Lowry and Herro matches Beal contract perfectly. If the Heat can get Beal with Herro and Lowry and picks (or less accordingly to Windy), the Heat wouldn't need a classic point guard. Basically Vincent would fill that role enough. And then Chris Paul comes in play to be an option.

PG: Paul - Vincent
SG: Beal - D.Robinson
SF: Butler - Martin
PF: Jovic - Love - Highsmith
Ce: Adebayo - O. Robinson

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[Daffy]

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Means about as much lol

Lmao. Beal averaged 23.2 pts, 3.9 rebounds, 5.4 assists last year in 2022-2023 season... Beal has never in his career posted a stat line of 30-7-6... he's a career 22-4-4 guy. His best year was probably 2019-2020 when he avg 30.1 4.2 boards 6.2 assists... some random Twitter dudes talking Beal up and yall drinking the kool-aid. Yikes.

Dude has a 15% trade kicker... "yea Beal will TOTALLY waive it!" Yea ok... Things Beal has done consistently in his career. Miss more and more games, chase the money, and watch his .40% avg from 3 first five years drop to 35% last four years. Everyone whines nonstop about Jimmy and his knees and missing games and now yall wanna risk it all on Beal and KP. Can't make this stuff up.

The trading teams pays the kicker not the acquiring team.

[carnageta]

The more I think of Beal.. the more I want him. Maybe I'm not thinking straight, but if you want to maximize Butler's window then this is the move to make. Herro may become better than Bradley down the line but the truth of the matter is Beal is the better player right now and probably will be for the next 2-3 years, easily.

23ppg on 50% shooting. Get him in Miami and he'd be Tyler Herro on steroids + athleticism.

[Daffy]

Just getting home and watching Woj report on Beal. And Lowry and Herro matches Beal contract perfectly. If the Heat can get Beal with Herro and Lowry and picks (or less accordingly to Windy), the Heat wouldn't need a classic point guard. Basically Vincent would fill that role enough. And then Chris Paul comes in play to be an option.

PG: Paul - Vincent
SG: Beal - D.Robinson
SF: Butler - Martin
PF: Jovic - Love - Highsmith
Ce: Adebayo - O. Robinson

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3 bad defenders in the starting line up. Our offense would be beautiful though.

[dean456]

Lmao. Beal averaged 23.2 pts, 3.9 rebounds, 5.4 assists last year in 2022-2023 season... Beal has never in his career posted a stat line of 30-7-6... he's a career 22-4-4 guy. His best year was probably 2019-2020 when he avg 30.1 4.2 boards 6.2 assists... some random Twitter dudes talking Beal up and yall drinking the kool-aid. Yikes.

Dude has a 15% trade kicker... "yea Beal will TOTALLY waive it!" Yea ok... Things Beal has done consistently in his career. Miss more and more games, chase the money, and watch his .40% avg from 3 first five years drop to 35% last four years. Everyone whines nonstop about Jimmy and his knees and missing games and now yall wanna risk it all on Beal and KP. Can't make this stuff up.

My post was saying that both tweets are meaningless

What’s your desired approach to improve the team?

We should keep Duncan. He's healthy finally and clearly developed more moves and grew as a player and him and Bam are always dangerous together.
I want no part in Strus other than a S&T to facilitate a trade. Gabe only if cheap.
Much more interested in making a move and securing a player like PJ Washington or Hachimura or Naz Reid or Jerami Grant. They add size but also add offense.
Not totally against adding Beal fwiw, but if we give up Herro, Dipo has to be included. The Ringer has herro as more valuable trade asset than Beal. I dont understand why so many here think Beal is so valuable. He doesn't play, his team sucks, he doesn't make others around him better... he's clearly a quality player and scorer but you want to pay 48-55M a year for that?
I also wonder what Grant Williams gets as a FA. I wouldn't mind him with the MLE.
And I want to see jamal Cain and bouyea and Jovic play. Giving big money to streaky inconsistent Gabe and strus is a bad call imo. They're solid but on Caleb martin money type contracts. And keep Love at minimum also.

Keep in mind trading for any player that is currently a FA would hard cap the team. Limiting us to a roster not passing 169mil which is impossible unless we somehow get a team to eat Robinson's contract for nothing but cap space (not happening). So that would likely kill any chance we have at any of the PF/Cs you mentioned.

Beal trade with Herro and Oladipo is still around 10mil short of matching salaries so Martin and Jovic would need to be included or Lowry would need to be added and we'd take back 20mil additional salary (Gafford and Wright?) or remove Oladipo and only take back roughly 10mil salary.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Means about as much lol

Lmao. Beal averaged 23.2 pts, 3.9 rebounds, 5.4 assists last year in 2022-2023 season... Beal has never in his career posted a stat line of 30-7-6... he's a career 22-4-4 guy. His best year was probably 2019-2020 when he avg 30.1 4.2 boards 6.2 assists... some random Twitter dudes talking Beal up and yall drinking the kool-aid. Yikes.

Dude has a 15% trade kicker... "yea Beal will TOTALLY waive it!" Yea ok... Things Beal has done consistently in his career. Miss more and more games, chase the money, and watch his .40% avg from 3 first five years drop to 35% last four years. Everyone whines nonstop about Jimmy and his knees and missing games and now yall wanna risk it all on Beal and KP. Can't make this stuff up.

Gosh damn y’all get sensitive over Herro

Doesn’t Washington eat the kicker?

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Barry needs to shut it.
Is there more than one basketball? How would beal and Dame ever coexist? Did he not see Luka and Kyrie lose 12 straight games or some **** and Dallas not make playoffs? There's this thing called defense. Worst idea ever. Terrible team building with fit and cap. The day Micky pays 265M is the day Bam doesn't have a ball bounce off his foot or hands for a turnover in a game.

Go to bed

[3ammy3uck3ts]

The way y’all cling to comparing such and such player at an age to Herro at a certain age needs to stop, been going on too long now. Hell never be Booker, Beal etc.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Oh **** and he can throw a lob?!

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Barry needs to shut it.
Is there more than one basketball? How would beal and Dame ever coexist? Did he not see Luka and Kyrie lose 12 straight games or some **** and Dallas not make playoffs? There's this thing called defense. Worst idea ever. Terrible team building with fit and cap. The day Micky pays 265M is the day Bam doesn't have a ball bounce off his foot or hands for a turnover in a game.

Barry isn't being serious, he is just trolling people I bet. He is problably always tire of hearing about Miami whiffing on whales and is all in this offseason like I have never seen. He is usually the number 1 mouth piece for the Heat executives when they want a message out to the league via a tweet. Take if for a grain of salt for now, just know that we were thinking of tanking and foregoing our playoffs and today were reliving the delight that was a long successful playoff run that got to within 3 games of a championship, and now were here talking about 3 top superstars, in Lillard, Beal, Kyrie whom all have interest in Miami, without knowing the plethora of more players whom are intrigue at coming here, after seeing and validating the last four years of playoff success. Not to fathom, all the other players who sat on their couch watching the finals whom all had the opportunity of making their way here and chose not to "Durant" push hard enough like some say. Regretting and wondering what if....so yeah be delighted, be excited, its gonna be a hell of ride in these next couple months of free agency.

Barry’s serious

[Flash4thewin]

Means about as much lol

Lmao. Beal averaged 23.2 pts, 3.9 rebounds, 5.4 assists last year in 2022-2023 season... Beal has never in his career posted a stat line of 30-7-6... he's a career 22-4-4 guy. His best year was probably 2019-2020 when he avg 30.1 4.2 boards 6.2 assists... some random Twitter dudes talking Beal up and yall drinking the kool-aid. Yikes.

Dude has a 15% trade kicker... "yea Beal will TOTALLY waive it!" Yea ok... Things Beal has done consistently in his career. Miss more and more games, chase the money, and watch his .40% avg from 3 first five years drop to 35% last four years. Everyone whines nonstop about Jimmy and his knees and missing games and now yall wanna risk it all on Beal and KP. Can't make this stuff up.

The trading teams pays the kicker not the acquiring team.

It doesnt matter who pays, it counts on the cap so the tax implications are huge.

[dean456]

Just getting home and watching Woj report on Beal. And Lowry and Herro matches Beal contract perfectly. If the Heat can get Beal with Herro and Lowry and picks (or less accordingly to Windy), the Heat wouldn't need a classic point guard. Basically Vincent would fill that role enough. And then Chris Paul comes in play to be an option.

PG: Paul - Vincent
SG: Beal - D.Robinson
SF: Butler - Martin
PF: Jovic - Love - Highsmith
Ce: Adebayo - O. Robinson

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Interestingly Beal's 15% trade bonus is paid by the team trading Beal but from what I read it would effect salary matching in a trade so in this case Beal's 15% would come to 31mil which would be spaced out over the 3 non player option years remaining on Beal's deal. Making Beal's salary for trading purposes come to 57.1mil I believe.

So Herro and Lowry's contracts would match pretty closely 56.6mil - 57.1mil (+500k).

However if Beal were to waive the trade bonus.

Herro and Lowry's contracts come to 56.6mil and Beal's is 46.7mil so Washington would need to send salary back to make it work.

Adding Monte Morris (9.8mil) to the deal gets it to 56.5mil - 56.6mil (-100k)

Or adding Delon Wright (8.1mil) to the deal gets it to 54.9mil - 56.6mil (-1.7mil)

Both Morris and Wright are on 1yr expiring deals.

So ideally for Miami, Beal waiving that bonus would benefit us as we could add some very solid PG depth in the deal and Washington can save an additional 31mil.

[Daffy]

"He also has a 15% trade kicker, though his salary in 2023/24 will likely be above the league-wide max, so that kicker wouldn’t be applied."

[3ballbomber]

I'd super stroke her





god i need sex

Sometime even if you're wrong just do the quick apology for the makeup sex. You know her best and how to get to her, hopefully whatever the fight was over was something trivial. Fingers crossed

I’m attempting a triple-combo....flowers, apology & begging. I can’t think straight - Papa needs some punani

[dean456]

Lmao. Beal averaged 23.2 pts, 3.9 rebounds, 5.4 assists last year in 2022-2023 season... Beal has never in his career posted a stat line of 30-7-6... he's a career 22-4-4 guy. His best year was probably 2019-2020 when he avg 30.1 4.2 boards 6.2 assists... some random Twitter dudes talking Beal up and yall drinking the kool-aid. Yikes.

Dude has a 15% trade kicker... "yea Beal will TOTALLY waive it!" Yea ok... Things Beal has done consistently in his career. Miss more and more games, chase the money, and watch his .40% avg from 3 first five years drop to 35% last four years. Everyone whines nonstop about Jimmy and his knees and missing games and now yall wanna risk it all on Beal and KP. Can't make this stuff up.

The trading teams pays the kicker not the acquiring team.

It doesnt matter who pays, it counts on the cap so the tax implications are huge.

Trade bonus would be waived or be very minimal as it would make Beal's salary beyond the max which is not permitted.

[dean456]

"He also has a 15% trade kicker, though his salary in 2023/24 will likely be above the league-wide max, so that kicker wouldn’t be applied."

Yeah I believe this is correct. So would this mean Beal's trade kicker would be waived?

What would be the league wide max salary? Steph would be earning 51.9mil next season so would that mean Washington would need to pay the difference 5.2mil? Or would it be based on 10+yr max in 2023-2024 which is basically what Beal is currently getting?

[eddieheatfan]

i cant believe that people want kevin love back knowing that he's on his last legs as a basketball player.

do you guys seriously think that he can endure another 82 game season?