MIAMI HEAT Offseason Thread 2021

[MettaWorldPanda]

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Pay attention to how much it cost to dump Kemba’s contract and imagine something similar for a Porzingis dump. It just might be worth it for us.

[dean456]

1) I don't Think we have the assets to get Ingram sadly, I like his fit here next to Jimmy and Bam.

2) Luka isn't going anywhere so let's not waste words.

3) If Spo is tired of coaching, and it did look like he's tired this season, Rick Carlisle would be a very good replacement.

If we traded Precious for our 2023 FRP back from OKC we'd then have Bam, Herro, the expiring's of Dragic and Iggy, 3FRP's and 3FRP swaps to trade we got plenty of assets to trade for anyone if we really want to.

Yet according to some we could never trade for Harden

Well we couldn't trade Bam in a Harden scenario because of his extension triggering the poison pill clause in it. So for us to do a trade it would have cost us all those picks, Herro, Robinson, Dragic and Iggy.

In hindsight I'm still happy we didn't make that trade. If we made that trade we'd have our big 3, but outside of Harden, Nunn would have been our next best shooter and having that with Jimmy and Bam was never going to work. Not to mention Harden only playing 44/72 games and is still banged up and underperforming in the playoffs. We probably be an even lower seed and still be out first round.

We'll see if this offseason provides any better options. I will say that I think we are going to be far more willing to make ballsy moves than we were last season coming off a finals run.

[dean456]

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Pay attention to how much it cost to dump Kemba’s contract and imagine something similar for a Porzingis dump. It just might be worth it for us.

OKC preparing to welcome their Horford replacement in Precious for our 2023 FRP back.

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Pay attention to how much it cost to dump Kemba’s contract and imagine something similar for a Porzingis dump. It just might be worth it for us.

Or maybe they just wanted Horford back.

[Beenie]

1) I don't Think we have the assets to get Ingram sadly, I like his fit here next to Jimmy and Bam.

2) Luka isn't going anywhere so let's not waste words.

3) If Spo is tired of coaching, and it did look like he's tired this season, Rick Carlisle would be a very good replacement.

I have to assume that New Orleans wants to surround Zion with shooters, therefore, I'm not quick to dismiss the idea that a package around Duncan, Herro, and picks, (Mia will have to get creative and involve another team to include a pick(s), would be able to get their attention.

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1) I don't Think we have the assets to get Ingram sadly, I like his fit here next to Jimmy and Bam.

2) Luka isn't going anywhere so let's not waste words.

3) If Spo is tired of coaching, and it did look like he's tired this season, Rick Carlisle would be a very good replacement.

I have to assume that New Orleans wants to surround Zion with shooters, therefore, I'm not quick to dismiss the idea that a package around Duncan, Herro, and picks, (Mia will have to get creative and involve another team to include a pick(s), would be able to get their attention.

Aside from Duncan, Ingram is a better 3 point shooter than anyone on our team.

[twix2500]

Ethan has no sources. What Ethan has going is a nice local twitter beat hustle that knows how to get clicks. It’s realgm with multiple sauces tied to it on a bigger platform.

You guys have to actually listen to the rumor. Most of it us not much of a rumor. Like the the Lillard info Stephen A put out the Miami inquired about Lillard. That is absolutely worthless info.

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The rumor is Mia likes Ingram.

That alone is noteworthy in an off-season in which roster change figures to be inevitable.

Coupled with the Zion “rumors” of him being unhappy with his team’s roster construction, the idea the Mia would pursue Ingram is totally within the realms of feasibility.

Mia liking Ingram is not note worthy. They like many players. Liking someone who is not available means nothing. That's how the Knicks fans operate

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[HeatingUp3]

Find a way to bring Zach Lavine.

[NBADraft2003]

1) I don't Think we have the assets to get Ingram sadly, I like his fit here next to Jimmy and Bam.

2) Luka isn't going anywhere so let's not waste words.

3) If Spo is tired of coaching, and it did look like he's tired this season, Rick Carlisle would be a very good replacement.

If we traded Precious for our 2023 FRP back from OKC we'd then have Bam, Herro, the expiring's of Dragic and Iggy, 3FRP's and 3FRP swaps to trade we got plenty of assets to trade for anyone if we really want to.

Yet according to some we could never trade for Harden

In what world is OKC sending a first for Precious?

[dean456]

If we traded Precious for our 2023 FRP back from OKC we'd then have Bam, Herro, the expiring's of Dragic and Iggy, 3FRP's and 3FRP swaps to trade we got plenty of assets to trade for anyone if we really want to.

Yet according to some we could never trade for Harden

In what world is OKC sending a first for Precious?

- Our 2023 pick is top 14 protected for them from 2023 until 2026. If Miami aren't in the lottery they will more than likely be in the 20-30 range when OKC make the selection. Precious was the 21st pick who they can get now rather than 2yrs from now.

- OKC now have 11 FRPs and 9 SRPs in the next 3 drafts not including our 2023 FRP.

- Now that OKC have traded Horford their only Centers are Mike Muscala and Moses Brown.

- Precious might not have been it for us but he'll put up good numbers in OKC with more playing time, a starting role and no pressure to win especially with a PG like SGA.

- Despite Precious' struggles this season he was still 14.8ppg/10.2rpg/1spg/1.4bpg per 36mins without any preseason with us.

[Dr_Heat]

Find a way to bring a WHALE to Miami, preferably one named Luka. Oof

[SoFlaKingReal]

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Battier is OUT

[NBADraft2003]

Yet according to some we could never trade for Harden

In what world is OKC sending a first for Precious?

- Our 2023 pick is top 14 protected for them from 2023 until 2026. If Miami aren't in the lottery they will more than likely be in the 20-30 range when OKC make the selection. Precious was the 21st pick who they can get now rather than 2yrs from now.

- OKC now have 11 FRPs and 9 SRPs in the next 3 drafts not including our 2023 FRP.

- Now that OKC have traded Horford their only Centers are Mike Muscala and Moses Brown.

- Precious might not have been it for us but he'll put up good numbers in OKC with more playing time, a starting role and no pressure to win especially with a PG like SGA.

- Despite Precious' struggles this season he was still 14.8ppg/10.2rpg/1spg/1.4bpg per 36mins without any preseason with us.

So y’all think OKC does all of this to get the first round picks just to throw one away on what Precious COULD be? The whole point of them tanking is to draft the best available and if they want to flip picks for stars, they have the draft capital to do so. I’d imagine that Poku would start at the five for them anyway. Even if he isn’t, they could find one to sign on the cheap and develop them just like they did with Moses instead of throwing a pick away.

[RexBoyWonder]

It's simple match.

30 teams, but only around 15 (being generous) legit offensive first options.

We don't have one, and getting one will cost assets we don't have because their value is crazy high due to their scarceness.

Our only path to greatness is building a good defensive team with a great offensive balance and multiple offensive weapons.

We were dangerous in the bubble because we had 6 guys that can go off at any given game : Dragic, Jimmy, Bam, Herro, Duncan, Crowder. they all we're very efficent in their good games.

You have to hope Herro and Duncan improve, that we can replace Crowder with a legit power player, and that we can replace Dragic with a Lowry type player. Internal growth is a must.

[SoFlaKingReal]

Brandon Ingram yes please

[RexBoyWonder]

The more you see current day playoffs the more you realize the most important thing in 2022 is :

1) A natural scorer that can create 3's for himself, get to the line, and create for others. Somebody capable of going for 40 multiple times in a series (defenses are a joke). Guys like KD, Embbid, Mitchell, Booker, Beal, T.young.

2) The second most important thing is overall team 3 point shooting. Meaning taking a lot of 3's and making them at high %. I'm talking multiple guys capable of hitting 6+ 3's in a playoff games. A lot of these games are decided by role players hitting 3's or missing them. Good shooters will hit more in the long run. Some guys can shoot but just aren't capable of lunching a lot (M. Leonard).

3) Overall team size - it's not just the rebounding - it's the ability to play defense without spending a lot of energy due to just being big MFs.


Then and only then you get to what we seem to focus on - good team defense principles. Those are meaningless if you don't address the first 3 points.

Give me big MFs that can shoot 3's and 1 legit natural scorer, That's how you should build for this era.

[Beenie]

You guys have to actually listen to the rumor. Most of it us not much of a rumor. Like the the Lillard info Stephen A put out the Miami inquired about Lillard. That is absolutely worthless info.

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The rumor is Mia likes Ingram.

That alone is noteworthy in an off-season in which roster change figures to be inevitable.

Coupled with the Zion “rumors” of him being unhappy with his team’s roster construction, the idea the Mia would pursue Ingram is totally within the realms of feasibility.

Mia liking Ingram is not note worthy. They like many players. Liking someone who is not available means nothing. That's how the Knicks fans operate

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Ingram may very well be available.

If the "news" was that Mia liked Steph Curry then I agree that it would be non-news.

But considering that New Orleans' is changing their coach, their GM's position is in question, their star is possibly disgruntled, their young starting PG is a RFA, it's totally within reason to think that Ingram could possibly be had at the right price.

[RexBoyWonder]

The more you see current day playoffs the more you realize the most important thing in 2022 is :

1) A natural scorer that can create 3's for himself, get to the line, and create for others. Somebody capable of going for 40 multiple times in a series (defenses are a joke). Guys like KD, Embbid, Mitchell, Booker, Beal, T.young.

2) The second most important thing is overall team 3 point shooting. Meaning taking a lot of 3's and making them at high %. I'm talking multiple guys capable of hitting 6+ 3's in a playoff games. A lot of these games are decided by role players hitting 3's or missing them. Good shooters will hit more in the long run. Some guys can shoot but just aren't capable of lunching a lot (M. Leonard).

3) Overall team size - it's not just the rebounding - it's the ability to play defense without spending a lot of energy due to just being big MFs.


Then and only then you get to what we seem to focus on - good team defense principles. Those are meaningless if you don't address the first 3 points.

Give me big MFs that can shoot 3's and 1 legit natural scorer, That's how you should build for this era.

Theoretically, that's why Herro at PG was an idea I liked.

If he can grow his game to combine the scoring and creating (questionable, but not impossible) it gives you a big PG, then you put Duncan at SG and he's a big SG. And both should be great shooters going forward. Then Jimmy is a big strong SF, he can't shoot but that's what we've got. Bam is big as PF (small at C), and IF he can become a confident shooter that would be HUGE for this team. Then you add a C that likes to shoot and gives you size, rim protection and 3's. Guys like Porzingis or Myles Turner, or that type at least.

Basically you surround our max guys with the biggest, best shooters you possible can. Then if you get hot as a team in the right time, you can beat anyone.

[RexBoyWonder]

The rumor is Mia likes Ingram.

That alone is noteworthy in an off-season in which roster change figures to be inevitable.

Coupled with the Zion “rumors” of him being unhappy with his team’s roster construction, the idea the Mia would pursue Ingram is totally within the realms of feasibility.

Mia liking Ingram is not note worthy. They like many players. Liking someone who is not available means nothing. That's how the Knicks fans operate

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Ingram may very well be available.

If the "news" was that Mia liked Steph Curry then I agree that it would be non-news.

But considering that New Orleans' is changing their coach, their GM's position is in question, their star is possibly disgruntled, their young starting PG is a RFA, it's totally within reason to think that Ingram could possibly be had at the right price.

The right price starts with Bam.

And honestly I think we should do it, unless coaching staff believes Bam can become at least a good mid range shooter.

[BenoUdrihFTL]

I just don't think trading their 2nd best player -- who happens to be a good fit with Zion at forward -- gets NOP very far in trying to win and placate Zion