2023 Heat Season Thread - Let me dream edition

[DBurks2818]

I know it's still the Finals, but I've been thinking about what will happen this offseason as well. Non-retiring free agents (ones I think should be kept are in bold red):

Kevin Love C - $3,736,966 Non-Bird
Omer Yurtseven C $2,261,266 $2,261,266 Restricted Bird
Max Strus SG - $1,989,698 Bird
Gabe Vincent PG - $1,989,698 Bird
Cody Zeller C - $1,989,698 Non-Bird
Jamal Cain SF $1,774,999 $1,774,999 Two-Way
Orlando Robinson C $1,774,999 $1,774,999 Two-Way
Incomplete Roster Charge 3 spots $2,944,818
Round 1, Pick #18 $3,458,400

I think you spend the money to keep Gabe at 4/60 or less. I think he'll be great fully taking over from Lowry.

If K. Love does not demand much more than the minimum, he's a no-brainer to take over Haslem's vet big-man mentor role.

If he's finally healthy, Omer will be a good trade chip along with Dipo and Lowry, as he should finally take the backup 5 minutes. This would allow the team to afford to re-sign Gabe and Love and also allows you to let Zeller and Orlando Robinson go, unless it makes sense for Robinson to return on the Two-way contract again which it probably doesn't.

I think Herro's return and Duncan's "return" allow you to let Max go, as unfortunate as that would be. You just can't spend that much money on the wing, with Jimmy already making so much money there.

Cain, along with Highsmith, seems like a great future wing addition to fill out the bench for some good regular season minutes. We'll see if he becomes more than that.

The 1st rounder will be important (if it isn't traded) to keep future roster costs down under the new CBA and, as someone mentioned earlier, to draft a really good PG/combo guard prospect. But if you don't win the chip this year and get a great deal for someone to take Lowry, Dipo and the pick, I think that is also fine.

Hopefully 2 other good prospects come up through summer league, and you leave that last spot open for another mid-season pickup if you can.

[AirP.]

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[al bondiga]

Focus on this year and and we go from there Is my advice

Who knows all the things that could happen?

we just need the NBA to Acknowledge the heat

Perhaps E s p n, fox, etc, etc

[contract]

I think you spend the money to keep Gabe at 4/60 or less.

I wouldn't give Gabe $30 million over 4 years. Maybe $18 million over 3 years.

I wouldn't give Gabe a 4th year for anything more than $5 mil per ... and even then I'd assume I'd regret the last two years. Dude is a soon to be 27 year old rando. He's a bench quality player, and not a very good, productive, or promising one. We need to quit judging players off of their hot streaks.

For the season Gabe was: 40.2% FG & 33.4% 3pt in 68 games

For his career Gabe is: 39.9% FG & 33.9% 3pt in 195 games

That's who he is.

[contract]

Seriously, instead of making expensive new mistakes, wouldn't it be cheaper just to sign some of our old mistakes to veteran minimum deals to fill out our roster?

Whiteside
TJ Johnson
Lowry and Dipo may be available for the minimum after we trade them and they get bought out.

[Wiltside]

Shout out to these guys for the playoff run they've had:

Gabe Vincent - 13.9ppg, 1.6rpg, 3.9apg, 0.8spg, 1.5tpg, 31.6mpg on 42.9%fg and 41.3% 3fg (2.6 per)
Caleb Martin - 13.0ppg, 5.6rpg, 1.6apg, 0.9spg, 1.0tpg, 29.9mpg on 54.5%fg and 44.1% 3fg (2.1 per)
Duncan Robinson - 9.1ppg, 1.5rpg, 1.7apg, 0.9tpg, 18.1mpg on 46.8%fg and 44.0% 3fg (2.2 per)

All three of these guys have been huge in hitting their three ball at excellent volume and efficiency, playmaking without turning the ball over, and contributing on the defensive end (yes, even Duncan). They're a huge reason why we've had such an incredible 20 game stretch here.

[DayofMourning]

Shout out to these guys for the playoff run they've had:

Gabe Vincent - 13.9ppg, 1.6rpg, 3.9apg, 0.8spg, 1.5tpg, 31.6mpg on 42.9%fg and 41.3% 3fg (2.6 per)
Caleb Martin - 13.0ppg, 5.6rpg, 1.6apg, 0.9spg, 1.0tpg, 29.9mpg on 54.5%fg and 44.1% 3fg (2.1 per)
Duncan Robinson - 9.1ppg, 1.5rpg, 1.7apg, 0.9tpg, 18.1mpg on 46.8%fg and 44.0% 3fg (2.2 per)

All three of these guys have been huge in hitting their three ball at excellent volume and efficiency, playmaking without turning the ball over, and contributing on the defensive end (yes, even Duncan). They're a huge reason why we've had such an incredible 20 game stretch here.

If we win it all then these guys will be a huge part of the story being told down the road. Rock solid role playing.

[ShulaDon92]

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Thats just how they operate.

-SHULA

[ShulaDon92]

Shout out to these guys for the playoff run they've had:

Gabe Vincent - 13.9ppg, 1.6rpg, 3.9apg, 0.8spg, 1.5tpg, 31.6mpg on 42.9%fg and 41.3% 3fg (2.6 per)
Caleb Martin - 13.0ppg, 5.6rpg, 1.6apg, 0.9spg, 1.0tpg, 29.9mpg on 54.5%fg and 44.1% 3fg (2.1 per)
Duncan Robinson - 9.1ppg, 1.5rpg, 1.7apg, 0.9tpg, 18.1mpg on 46.8%fg and 44.0% 3fg (2.2 per)

All three of these guys have been huge in hitting their three ball at excellent volume and efficiency, playmaking without turning the ball over, and contributing on the defensive end (yes, even Duncan). They're a huge reason why we've had such an incredible 20 game stretch here.

If we win it all then these guys will be a huge part of the story being told down the road. Rock solid role playing.

Epic chemistry and teamwork.

-SHULA

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[RexBoyWonder]

I don't want to go into the details while we're playing in the finals - but i feel like the framework for the offseason should be something around these moves :

1. Dump Lowry + Dipo on a cap space team, take no salary back or very small contract/s back.
2. Resign Vincent (and maye Strus too) to team friendly deals.
3. Keep Duncan unless you can dump him without using other assets. He's overpaid but servicable.
4. Trade Herro + every asset we can muster (future picks/Jovic/Cash/18# pick) for a true offensive star - like Lilard.

If Lilard isn't available, i'd look at trading Herro for an OG Anunoby type - someone who fits our defensive identity better.

If we can pull off these moves - we'll be under the second apron - and the tax will be manageable, we won't get hard capped.

[BBallFreak]

I don't want to go into the details while we're playing in the finals - but i feel like the framework for the offseason should be something around these moves :

1. Dump Lowry + Dipo on a cap space team, take no salary back or very small contract/s back.
2. Resign Vincent (and maye Strus too) to team friendly deals.
3. Keep Duncan unless you can dump him without using other assets. He's overpaid but servicable.
4. Trade Herro + every asset we can muster (future picks/Jovic/Cash/18# pick) for a true offensive star - like Lilard.

If Lilard isn't available, i'd look at trading Herro for an OG Anunoby type - someone who fits our defensive identity better.

If we can pull off these moves - we'll be under the second apron - and the tax will be manageable, we won't get hard capped.

1) Easier said than done. Oladipo should be a pretty cheap offload, not Lowry costs $29 million next year. No one is doing us any favors.

2) agreed

3) Luckily, in relation to your first idea, we'd pretty much need to include Lowry in a deal for Liliard, but even then I don't see us having enough assets in a vacuum. Of course, Portland night decide to do him a favor, which would be great.

Problem with number 3, however, is it pretty much forces us over that second tax apron.

[RexBoyWonder]

I don't want to go into the details while we're playing in the finals - but i feel like the framework for the offseason should be something around these moves :

1. Dump Lowry + Dipo on a cap space team, take no salary back or very small contract/s back.
2. Resign Vincent (and maye Strus too) to team friendly deals.
3. Keep Duncan unless you can dump him without using other assets. He's overpaid but servicable.
4. Trade Herro + every asset we can muster (future picks/Jovic/Cash/18# pick) for a true offensive star - like Lilard.

If Lilard isn't available, i'd look at trading Herro for an OG Anunoby type - someone who fits our defensive identity better.

If we can pull off these moves - we'll be under the second apron - and the tax will be manageable, we won't get hard capped.

1) Easier said than done. Oladipo should be a pretty cheap offload, not Lowry costs $29 million next year. No one is doing us any favors.

2) agreed

3) Luckily, in relation to your first idea, we'd pretty much need to include Lowry in a deal for Liliard, but even then I don't see us having enough assets in a vacuum. Of course, Portland night decide to do him a favor, which would be great.

Problem with number 3, however, is it pretty much forces us over that second tax apron.

It's gonna be close but we can get below, basically the only non minimum players on the roster should be

Jimmy
Bam
Lilard Or OG
Vincent
Martin
Strus Or Duncan

[BBallFreak]

I don't want to go into the details while we're playing in the finals - but i feel like the framework for the offseason should be something around these moves :

1. Dump Lowry + Dipo on a cap space team, take no salary back or very small contract/s back.
2. Resign Vincent (and maye Strus too) to team friendly deals.
3. Keep Duncan unless you can dump him without using other assets. He's overpaid but servicable.
4. Trade Herro + every asset we can muster (future picks/Jovic/Cash/18# pick) for a true offensive star - like Lilard.

If Lilard isn't available, i'd look at trading Herro for an OG Anunoby type - someone who fits our defensive identity better.

If we can pull off these moves - we'll be under the second apron - and the tax will be manageable, we won't get hard capped.

1) Easier said than done. Oladipo should be a pretty cheap offload, not Lowry costs $29 million next year. No one is doing us any favors.

2) agreed

3) Luckily, in relation to your first idea, we'd pretty much need to include Lowry in a deal for Liliard, but even then I don't see us having enough assets in a vacuum. Of course, Portland night decide to do him a favor, which would be great.

Problem with number 3, however, is it pretty much forces us over that second tax apron.

It's gonna be close but we can get below, basically the only non minimum players on the roster should be

Jimmy
Bam
Lilard Or OG
Vincent
Martin
Strus Or Duncan

Sustainability is a thing though. A cheaper option would make a lot more sense. We should proceed with caution.

[AirP.]

I don't want to go into the details while we're playing in the finals - but i feel like the framework for the offseason should be something around these moves :

1. Dump Lowry + Dipo on a cap space team, take no salary back or very small contract/s back.
2. Resign Vincent (and maye Strus too) to team friendly deals.
3. Keep Duncan unless you can dump him without using other assets. He's overpaid but servicable.
4. Trade Herro + every asset we can muster (future picks/Jovic/Cash/18# pick) for a true offensive star - like Lilard.

If Lilard isn't available, i'd look at trading Herro for an OG Anunoby type - someone who fits our defensive identity better.

If we can pull off these moves - we'll be under the second apron - and the tax will be manageable, we won't get hard capped.

1) Easier said than done. Oladipo should be a pretty cheap offload, not Lowry costs $29 million next year. No one is doing us any favors.

2) agreed

3) Luckily, in relation to your first idea, we'd pretty much need to include Lowry in a deal for Liliard, but even then I don't see us having enough assets in a vacuum. Of course, Portland night decide to do him a favor, which would be great.

Problem with number 3, however, is it pretty much forces us over that second tax apron.

Piggybacking off you.

1. If you're moving Lowry and/or Oladipo into cap space, you're sending out some nice asset. Looking at the potential cap space now there's only 12 teams with 10+ million "potentially" open, some of those teams are going to resign their own FA or other FA like... Portland, Cleveland, Dallas, Sacramento and LAL. So this now leaves...
Team - Potential cap space
Indiana - 27 mil
OKC - 37 mil
Det - 40 mil
Jazz - 40 mil
SAS - 43 mil
Orl - 59 mil
Hou - 65 mil <- rumored interested in Harden.

2. I think you only bring back Strus or Vincent if you get them for near Martin deals, I think they're more replaceable than most think. I actually think Martin is better than both but how this team currently built, Martin played out of position and the other 2 were given bigger scoring roles because they were in the starting lineup. Year after year you can find smaller 3pt shooting guards for not all that much, just keep rotating players at PG/SG with low priced 3pt shooting combo guards if you're going to run your offense through Bam and Butler and use everyone else as 3pt shooters.

3. Just keep Duncan unless you can dump him as a neutral contract/contract filler in a trade. He's going to be under contract for 3 more years but the 3rd year he's going to be an asset as a 3pt shooter and expiring contract. If someone wants him and absorbs most of his contract into cap space (bringing back much less money to Miami) you move him.

4. This is the big one... you're seeing what a team built around Butler and Bam can do with 3pt shooting, so why not go all in on a proven vet who's a good/great 3pt shooter to have more stability with Miami's 3pt shooting. I don't think Miami has the assets for Dame, I think they do have the assets for Beal and his ability to dictate where he goes with his no trade clause. Imagine having the killer Bs in Butler, Bam and Beal with only 2 Shakey 3pt shooters to go with them instead of 3. Also, Beal is a 6-4 about to turn 30 (the age Butler was when he got to Miami) and will get paid 57 mil at age 33 while Lillard 6-2 will be making 63 million at age 36. Just go get that vet 3pt scorer to couple with Butler and Bam and make this team rely less on iffy 3pt shooting.

[Rapaz]

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[greg4012]

Good read for all, but especially for any who still don't get it:

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2023/6/7/23752048/bam-adebayo-miami-heat-2023-nba-finals

Adebayo’s role doesn’t call for him to rack up many blocks or deflections. Instead, Miami asks him to be a fast-moving brick wall that gets in the way of drives before they develop, bothers rather than blocks shots, and deters passes. He is often the solid back-line safety who allows the rest of his teammates to blitz, gamble, and freestyle.

Adebayo has the impossible task of slowing down the two-time MVP while also switching onto shifty guards like Jamal Murray and anchoring Miami’s zone, which held the Nuggets to 0.875 points per direct chance in Game 2, according to Second Spectrum. On offense, Adebayo has always had a knack for the little things—a screen assist here, a hockey assist there—but in two games, he’s looking for the basket as much as he’s looking for his teammates. He leads Miami in touches (87.5), points per game (23.5), field goal attempts per game (19.5), and rebounds per game (11).

[wade44]

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Oh sheee Dame wants in!

[wade44]

Matching salaries wouldn’t be an issue but old Jimmy and old Dame making a combined 100 million per season would be…

Still cool that he wants to play here though

[3ammy3uck3ts]

“Bam is my dawg”

“Miami obviously“

-Dame