Miami Heat Offseason Thread Vol. 4: Fraudfather Snoozin 2.0

Lilseb93 · Post #981 » by **Lilseb93** » Sat Jul 6, 2024 2:56 pm

twix2500 wrote:Man this room hates their own players lol. Especially if you ask for more than the min lol

Miami loves their players too much which is why we are always in this mess with contracts.

heater4life · Post #982 » by **heater4life** » Sat Jul 6, 2024 2:57 pm

twix2500 wrote:Losing Caleb was a bad move he was a great role and fit for this team. 12.5 mill a year is nothing for a good role player.

We simply can’t afford to get into the second apron with this current roster. Especially for a role player. Sometimes the smartest move is the one you don’t make.

EMC5466 · Post #983 » by **EMC5466** » Sat Jul 6, 2024 3:00 pm

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Rapaz · Post #984 » by **Rapaz** » Sat Jul 6, 2024 3:00 pm

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76ers: 32/4
Miami: 65/5

Too bad. So sad.

jaseda510 · Post #985 » by **jaseda510** » Sat Jul 6, 2024 3:00 pm

twix2500 wrote:Losing Caleb was a bad move he was a great role and fit for this team. 12.5 mill a year is nothing for a good role player.

12.5 mil is nothing compared to paying 30 mil to a one-way injury prone scoring guard

heater4life · Post #986 » by **heater4life** » Sat Jul 6, 2024 3:03 pm

EMC5466 wrote:

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Don’t completely believe the extension leak, but seems Heat role players are being signed with more hesitantance.

Rapaz · Post #987 » by **Rapaz** » Sat Jul 6, 2024 3:04 pm

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Stupidity is undefeated

Post #988 » by **MettaWorldPanda** » Sat Jul 6, 2024 3:05 pm

Damn that was a bag fumble. Does he have the same agent as Schroder? Lol

HeatingUp3 · Post #989 » by **HeatingUp3** » Sat Jul 6, 2024 3:07 pm

Lmao poor Caleb, he must be craching his dumb head againts the wall. Can't belive he turned down such un offer.

heater4life · Post #990 » by **heater4life** » Sat Jul 6, 2024 3:08 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:Damn that was a bag fumble. Does he have the same agent as Schroder? Lol

That agent has inside sauces.

Flash4thewin · Post #991 » by **Flash4thewin** » Sat Jul 6, 2024 3:10 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:Damn that was a bag fumble. Does he have the same agent as Schroder? Lol

Yeah something seems off in this story. He wanted 15, we offered 13, he signed for 8. Knowing how bad our tax issue is, and how much it would have costed to sign him for 13 mil factoring the tax and the second apron, something doesn't add up but that doesn't really matter any more.

Rapaz · Post #992 » by **Rapaz** » Sat Jul 6, 2024 3:11 pm

The Heat made a push to retain Martin ahead of the start of free agency, hoping to convince him to opt in to the $7.1 million player option in his contract for next season. This would have allowed Miami to offer Martin a lucrative extension.

According to a league source, the Heat offered Martin a four-year extension worth about $58 million to stay in Miami. Including the $7.1 million player he would have needed to accept for this upcoming season to make that contract a reality, this deal would have paid Martin about $65 million over the next five years.

This type of contract would have kept Martin’s cap hit for the upcoming season at a manageable $7.1 million amid the team’s current salary-cap crunch, while also making up on the back end of the deal for some of the money that he would have lost this summer by opting in to a lower number than he was expected to get in free agency. But a five-year commitment with an average salary per season of about $13 million wasn’t enough to re-sign Martin.

The Heat was eligible to offer Martin up to a four-year, $78 million extension that would have kept him with the Heat through the 2028-29 season if he had exercised his player option by Saturday’s deadline. Miami was hoping to use a large chunk of that — with an offer of a four-year, $58 million extension in addition to the $7.1 million salary he would have needed to opt into — to re-sign Martin.

Instead, Martin bypassed his player option on Saturday and now becomes part of the 76ers’ productive offseason.

https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nba/miami-heat/article289812234.html

Post #993 » by **MettaWorldPanda** » Sat Jul 6, 2024 3:11 pm

We got Caleb off the street from J Cole and Haywood out of who knows where. Haywood went to Wheeling college. We can find these types again. Glad we didn’t over pay but came very close to making yet another long term mistake.

Lennyzinho · Post #994 » by **Lennyzinho** » Sat Jul 6, 2024 3:13 pm

Rapaz wrote:

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He had to opt in so in reality it would have been a 6 for 72M deal. And he got 4-32M... why not sign a 1+1 with someone and then test market next year when teams have more cap space and more accustomed to new CBA? Agent effed up big time. I like Caleb, with increasing cap 12.5M isn't awful. The real winner is Philly,
Caleb's deal in his last two years making 8M with cap hikes will be really nice. Damn.

Beenie · Post #995 » by **Beenie** » Sat Jul 6, 2024 3:13 pm

Losing Martin, and getting nothing in return, and him going to your direct competition is the trifecta of smh

Post #996 » by **MettaWorldPanda** » Sat Jul 6, 2024 3:13 pm

Flash4thewin wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:Damn that was a bag fumble. Does he have the same agent as Schroder? Lol

Yeah something seems off in this story. He wanted 15, we offered 13, he signed for 8. Knowing how bad our tax issue is, and how much it would have costed to sign him for 13 mil factoring the tax and the second apron, something doesn't add up but that doesn't really matter any more.

Yeah sounds a little bit like window dressing but only Caleb’s agent can come out and rebuke it

Grumpy Heat Fan · Post #997 » by **Grumpy Heat Fan** » Sat Jul 6, 2024 3:14 pm

He has to fire his agent at this point.

WOW

Why the bad blood from Martin, not trusting the Heat FO? Or being suspicious of Heat FO?

or did Caleb really let his agent get in his head???

SoFlaKingReal · Post #998 » by **SoFlaKingReal** » Sat Jul 6, 2024 3:14 pm

Flash4thewin wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:Damn that was a bag fumble. Does he have the same agent as Schroder? Lol

Yeah something seems off in this story. He wanted 15, we offered 13, he signed for 8. Knowing how bad our tax issue is, and how much it would have costed to sign him for 13 mil factoring the tax and the second apron, something doesn't add up but that doesn't really matter any more.

It would have been 4 years added on to his upcoming season at 7 million. Heat wouldve stayed just below the 2nd apron.

Post #999 » by **MettaWorldPanda** » Sat Jul 6, 2024 3:15 pm

Beenie wrote:Losing Martin, and getting nothing in return, and him going to your direct competition is the trifecta of smh

PJ Tucker left too philly and so did Lowry. It’s not really a big deal. I actually think he’ll fall in line and suck. He developed that hitch again and was a habitual line stepper.

SoFlaKingReal · Post #1000 » by **SoFlaKingReal** » Sat Jul 6, 2024 3:15 pm

Grumpy Heat Fan wrote:He has to fire his agent at this point. Turned down 12.5/yr for 5 years, instead for 8/yr for 4

WOW

Why the bad blood from Martin, not trusting the Heat FO? Or being suspicious of Heat FO?

or did Caleb really let his agent get in his head???

Suspicious of what? Didn't the Heat sign him off the street and develop him into a competent NBA role player?