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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

Post#981 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri Feb 28, 2025 12:33 am

I’m not too worried about giving up a few assets for one of the best players/a top 5 offensive player we’ve ever seen who is still averaging 27-6-4 on 64TS%. I’m not too worried about him being extended either.

Ant, Giannis, etc could be begging to come here but Pat wouldn’t be willing to pay the price so it doesn’t matter. He’d offer Duncan Terry Jaime and a 1st and try to big dick them and when they get sent elsewhere he’ll have the Miami media say he tried his best and whoever it was wasn’t willing to negotiate.

In hindsight they should’ve just told Jimmy to shut the **** up and unloaded the clip for KD and extended them both. Still find a way to get Mitchell.

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Post#982 » by MorbidHEAT » Fri Feb 28, 2025 3:22 am

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Randomly denying a grown ass man the opportunity to indulge in some cookies is crazy work. Doing it to a guy that takes care of himself as much as Lebron did at that time, and probably still does today, is insane.
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

Post#983 » by oreon » Fri Feb 28, 2025 5:33 am

Kobewade11 wrote:
oreon wrote:Its a waste of assets. Then when the next guy in his prime becomes available we will have no shot to compete. Heat have to realize where they are. They are not a KD away from contending. With KD its a 2 year window. We need someone who gives a longer window to give us time to build the team. Look at suns, KD right now isn't the guy that can elevate a really bad team to a contender. He needs to be in a team thats close. We are not close. Unless its an all nba guy in their prime, Miami gotta be patient, stock up on assets and sell high on guys like Wiggins when you have a chance to get more assets.

Disagree. I'm not using Phoenix as a case study for anything because they just have bad infrastructure. 2 fluke Finals runs (I say that in jest) in 30 years, that's their legacy. We don't have a 1A scorer, if one can be had you have to at least try to get him and worry about the rest later.

Unless you have a generational player, most teams have a 3-4 year window to make a run. Bam is walking down 30, Herro figures to be entering his prime in the next year or two, imo we don't need to be thinking about a "long window" we need to get who is available that can help win within the next 3 years. At some point you just have to cash in, can't always be worried about who the next guy might be..there's always going to be somebody.


Nah. You can't dismiss his stint at PHX. They're not even making the playoffs. And KD 2-3 seasons ago couldnt get Nets past a lesser version of Celts and he's suppose to help Miami beat them.
In terms of predicting what is going to happen you have to look at recent results. And results over the past season are clear. KD can't elevate a poor team to contending status. Miami would be delusional to think otherwise. Getting KD is basically where we were with Butler to start the season. Needing another move but not having the assets to do it. While you are on the clock.
You just can't be eager to make a move to stay relevant when you have few assets. We did with Terry and it's a disaster. Stay patient, restock your assetss and wait for a younger star. If you would want to gamble on a star. Gamble on Zion. I would be against it but age wise that makes more sense than KD
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

Post#984 » by ZoStrong » Fri Feb 28, 2025 6:32 am

MorbidHEAT wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
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Randomly denying a grown ass man the opportunity to indulge in some cookies is crazy work. Doing it to a guy that takes care of himself as much as Lebron did at that time, and probably still does today, is insane.


I agree. But if true, u can look at it this way. If you allow your best player to eat junk food on a team plane, u gotta allow other players to do the same. You can't have two different sets of rules. That's the culture. I'm sure he didn't care about LeBron, who spends millions on his body to stay in the best shape, indulging in some cookies in his private time n space. Looks stupid, I agree. But I wouldn't say insane when the whole team is about the "Culture"
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Post#985 » by contract » Fri Feb 28, 2025 8:10 am

On the plus side, Jimmy is having trouble buying a bucket.

43% FG & 7% 3pt

And we weren't the ones who overpaid him. :clap:
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

Post#986 » by contract » Fri Feb 28, 2025 8:19 am

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:I’m not too worried about giving up a few assets for one of the best players/a top 5 offensive player we’ve ever seen who is still averaging 27-6-4 on 64TS%. I’m not too worried about him being extended either.

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Why do you all keep doing this to me? He would be 38 at the beginning of any extension. At his age every year is a dog year, and you want to give him a new deal that begins two years down the road?

No. **** no!
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

Post#987 » by marson » Fri Feb 28, 2025 8:22 am

contract wrote:On the plus side, Jimmy is having trouble buying a bucket.

43% FG & 7% 3pt

And we weren't the ones who overpaid him. :clap:


In the game where Steph scored 56 points, everyone needed to step aside.

Clearly, he's saving his best for the playoffs. As much as it pains me to admit, we might witness another Jimmy playoff run, he still has it.
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

Post#988 » by Kobewade11 » Fri Feb 28, 2025 8:30 am

oreon wrote:
Kobewade11 wrote:
oreon wrote:Its a waste of assets. Then when the next guy in his prime becomes available we will have no shot to compete. Heat have to realize where they are. They are not a KD away from contending. With KD its a 2 year window. We need someone who gives a longer window to give us time to build the team. Look at suns, KD right now isn't the guy that can elevate a really bad team to a contender. He needs to be in a team thats close. We are not close. Unless its an all nba guy in their prime, Miami gotta be patient, stock up on assets and sell high on guys like Wiggins when you have a chance to get more assets.

Disagree. I'm not using Phoenix as a case study for anything because they just have bad infrastructure. 2 fluke Finals runs (I say that in jest) in 30 years, that's their legacy. We don't have a 1A scorer, if one can be had you have to at least try to get him and worry about the rest later.

Unless you have a generational player, most teams have a 3-4 year window to make a run. Bam is walking down 30, Herro figures to be entering his prime in the next year or two, imo we don't need to be thinking about a "long window" we need to get who is available that can help win within the next 3 years. At some point you just have to cash in, can't always be worried about who the next guy might be..there's always going to be somebody.


Nah. You can't dismiss his stint at PHX. They're not even making the playoffs. And KD 2-3 seasons ago couldnt get Nets past a lesser version of Celts and he's suppose to help Miami beat them.
In terms of predicting what is going to happen you have to look at recent results. And results over the past season are clear. KD can't elevate a poor team to contending status. Miami would be delusional to think otherwise. Getting KD is basically where we were with Butler to start the season. Needing another move but not having the assets to do it. While you are on the clock.
You just can't be eager to make a move to stay relevant when you have few assets. We did with Terry and it's a disaster. Stay patient, restock your assetss and wait for a younger star. If you would want to gamble on a star. Gamble on Zion. I would be against it but age wise that makes more sense than KD

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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

Post#989 » by contract » Fri Feb 28, 2025 8:36 am

marson wrote:
contract wrote:On the plus side, Jimmy is having trouble buying a bucket.

43% FG & 7% 3pt

And we weren't the ones who overpaid him. :clap:


In the game where Steph scored 56 points, everyone needed to step aside.

Clearly, he's saving his best for the playoffs. As much as it pains me to admit, we might witness another Jimmy playoff run, he still has it.

Himmy stepped aside to the tune of 1/7 FG and 0/3 3pt.
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

Post#990 » by Bmaster » Fri Feb 28, 2025 10:37 am

contract wrote:
marson wrote:
contract wrote:On the plus side, Jimmy is having trouble buying a bucket.

43% FG & 7% 3pt

And we weren't the ones who overpaid him. :clap:


In the game where Steph scored 56 points, everyone needed to step aside.

Clearly, he's saving his best for the playoffs. As much as it pains me to admit, we might witness another Jimmy playoff run, he still has it.

Himmy stepped aside to the tune of 1/7 FG and 0/3 3pt.


Heat and warriors got what they wanted. I hope the heat do not trade for Durant. Need to find a younger star to trade for. Terry jacquez and Duncan have little value to other teams.
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Post#991 » by MartyConlonJr » Fri Feb 28, 2025 11:55 am

Not saying we should go for Durant, definitely not saying we should extend Durant, but KD at or near his current performance is the type of player the Heat need, and it is different than Jimmy was. A guy you give the ball and who can go and get his at an efficient rate. Those types of guys are perfect for our team of intelligent players, defenders and opportunistic scorers.

Does Durant decline slowly enough to make it worthwhile? Could we get him without selling the farm? Not sure on either, but I think if true, I would be optimistic about beating top teams, though I still think it would be an outside chance.

But KD would not be like Jimmy, who coasted half the time and earned his points through grit and with difficulty the other half. It is effortless.

And KD didn't have a team like the Heat in Phoenic or Brooklyn who are well disciplined and know what to do with secondary opportunities.

I still probably wouldn't do it though.
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

Post#992 » by 3ballbomber » Fri Feb 28, 2025 12:46 pm

Lmfao @Riles taking leflops cookies :lol:

F*ck yo cookies b*tch.
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

Post#993 » by twix2500 » Fri Feb 28, 2025 12:46 pm

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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

Post#994 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri Feb 28, 2025 3:01 pm

oreon wrote:
Kobewade11 wrote:
oreon wrote:Its a waste of assets. Then when the next guy in his prime becomes available we will have no shot to compete. Heat have to realize where they are. They are not a KD away from contending. With KD its a 2 year window. We need someone who gives a longer window to give us time to build the team. Look at suns, KD right now isn't the guy that can elevate a really bad team to a contender. He needs to be in a team thats close. We are not close. Unless its an all nba guy in their prime, Miami gotta be patient, stock up on assets and sell high on guys like Wiggins when you have a chance to get more assets.

Disagree. I'm not using Phoenix as a case study for anything because they just have bad infrastructure. 2 fluke Finals runs (I say that in jest) in 30 years, that's their legacy. We don't have a 1A scorer, if one can be had you have to at least try to get him and worry about the rest later.

Unless you have a generational player, most teams have a 3-4 year window to make a run. Bam is walking down 30, Herro figures to be entering his prime in the next year or two, imo we don't need to be thinking about a "long window" we need to get who is available that can help win within the next 3 years. At some point you just have to cash in, can't always be worried about who the next guy might be..there's always going to be somebody.


Nah. You can't dismiss his stint at PHX. They're not even making the playoffs. And KD 2-3 seasons ago couldnt get Nets past a lesser version of Celts and he's suppose to help Miami beat them.
In terms of predicting what is going to happen you have to look at recent results. And results over the past season are clear. KD can't elevate a poor team to contending status. Miami would be delusional to think otherwise. Getting KD is basically where we were with Butler to start the season. Needing another move but not having the assets to do it. While you are on the clock.
You just can't be eager to make a move to stay relevant when you have few assets. We did with Terry and it's a disaster. Stay patient, restock your assetss and wait for a younger star. If you would want to gamble on a star. Gamble on Zion. I would be against it but age wise that makes more sense than KD


This post lacks so much context I don’t even know where to start, come on now
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

Post#995 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri Feb 28, 2025 3:02 pm

contract wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:I’m not too worried about giving up a few assets for one of the best players/a top 5 offensive player we’ve ever seen who is still averaging 27-6-4 on 64TS%. I’m not too worried about him being extended either.

...

Why do you all keep doing this to me? He would be 38 at the beginning of any extension. At his age every year is a dog year, and you want to give him a new deal that begins two years down the road?

No. **** no!


I’ll pay him to 40 and he and Edrice will bring another star in along with them! KD is averaging 20+ on high efficiency health permitting at 40
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Post#996 » by wadenation305 » Fri Feb 28, 2025 3:23 pm

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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

Post#997 » by greg4012 » Fri Feb 28, 2025 3:25 pm

oreon wrote:
Kobewade11 wrote:
oreon wrote:Its a waste of assets. Then when the next guy in his prime becomes available we will have no shot to compete. Heat have to realize where they are. They are not a KD away from contending. With KD its a 2 year window. We need someone who gives a longer window to give us time to build the team. Look at suns, KD right now isn't the guy that can elevate a really bad team to a contender. He needs to be in a team thats close. We are not close. Unless its an all nba guy in their prime, Miami gotta be patient, stock up on assets and sell high on guys like Wiggins when you have a chance to get more assets.

Disagree. I'm not using Phoenix as a case study for anything because they just have bad infrastructure. 2 fluke Finals runs (I say that in jest) in 30 years, that's their legacy. We don't have a 1A scorer, if one can be had you have to at least try to get him and worry about the rest later.

Unless you have a generational player, most teams have a 3-4 year window to make a run. Bam is walking down 30, Herro figures to be entering his prime in the next year or two, imo we don't need to be thinking about a "long window" we need to get who is available that can help win within the next 3 years. At some point you just have to cash in, can't always be worried about who the next guy might be..there's always going to be somebody.


Nah. You can't dismiss his stint at PHX. They're not even making the playoffs. And KD 2-3 seasons ago couldnt get Nets past a lesser version of Celts and he's suppose to help Miami beat them.
In terms of predicting what is going to happen you have to look at recent results. And results over the past season are clear. KD can't elevate a poor team to contending status. Miami would be delusional to think otherwise. Getting KD is basically where we were with Butler to start the season. Needing another move but not having the assets to do it. While you are on the clock.
You just can't be eager to make a move to stay relevant when you have few assets. We did with Terry and it's a disaster. Stay patient, restock your assetss and wait for a younger star. If you would want to gamble on a star. Gamble on Zion. I would be against it but age wise that makes more sense than KD


2021 BKN Defense ranking: 22nd (BKN beat Boston in round 1; BKN was a Kevin Durant toe from knocking out the eventual champions in round 2)

2022 BKN Defense ranking: 20th (James Harden forced his way to Philly halfway thru the season for Ben Simmons--who did not play a game for BKN that season)

2023 PHX Defense ranking (KD traded to PHX mid-season) - 7th (Suns lost to eventual champions DEN in 6 games in round 2)

2024 PHX Defense ranking - 13th (Suns lost to Minny in round 1)

2025 PHX Defense ranking - 27th (KD best advanced defensive metrics among starters)

Love the casual tossing around of "delusion" around here to dismiss everything.

It's not a homerun guarantee, but from my vantage point, adding KD here in place of let's say Wiggins and Jovic (plus Rozier or Robinson) results in a team that should have a top 10 defense and an extremely complementary and balanced offense that should also be top 10. Arguably the best playoff defender in the world paired with the best playoff scorer in the world. Both 2-way players. Herro can go full flamethrower with secondary facilitating. Tinker around with the rest of roster. That's a high quality build.

Where it get's shaky is the additional cost of future assets for me. From a bball perspective, it's a perfect fit and cures many ailments.
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

Post#998 » by BadMofoPimp » Fri Feb 28, 2025 3:48 pm

contract wrote:
marson wrote:
contract wrote:On the plus side, Jimmy is having trouble buying a bucket.

43% FG & 7% 3pt

And we weren't the ones who overpaid him. :clap:


In the game where Steph scored 56 points, everyone needed to step aside.

Clearly, he's saving his best for the playoffs. As much as it pains me to admit, we might witness another Jimmy playoff run, he still has it.

Himmy stepped aside to the tune of 1/7 FG and 0/3 3pt.


I watched the game. They just couldn't stop Curry who would burry a 3 with a hand in his face from 30 feet with ease. Jimmy was pretty much a non-factor on offense. Don't even recalling him making anything worth noticing. Green handled that as his play doesn't show up on stat sheets.
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Post#999 » by BadMofoPimp » Fri Feb 28, 2025 3:51 pm

Seems Phoenix fell apart after getting Beal. Heat dodged a bullet there with that stat guy.
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Post#1000 » by greg4012 » Fri Feb 28, 2025 3:51 pm

twix2500 wrote:Heat shooting chart vs Hawks. Nothing much can be saidImage

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