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Wade needs to get his mid range game back to win the title

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 10:37 pm
by Aiolos
Seriously gang I really miss when he would pull up and knock that jumper down.

He needs that jumper come serious playoff time because aint nobody have ever won a championship with pure drives to the hoop.

He needs this pull up j to torch Boston since you know they will pack the paint.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMFHUIwUtkc[/youtube]

Re: Wade needs to get his mid range jumper back

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 11:07 pm
by HEATKingEz
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qGJXpyFAQA[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K88i3nQxgxc[/youtube]

*sigh*

Re: Wade needs to get his mid range jumper back

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 11:16 pm
by Wade County
Agree 100%.....He lost it a few years ago

Re: Wade needs to get his mid range jumper back

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 11:26 pm
by Tim_Hardawayy
Wade County wrote:Agree 100%.....He lost it a few years ago

I think it started halfway through the 08-09 season, when he started getting hot from 3. Now instead of working in the midrange area, he spends a lot more time dancing around the 3-point line.

He's toned down the actual taking of 3's, but he still works from out there too much, its too much all or nothing with him. His efficiency is great thanks to transition buckets playing on this stacked team, but he's really feasted on the lesser defenses this year, the good defensive teams have held him down.

I don't think that version of Wade is ever coming back unfortunately, and its a shame really. There are some things he is better at now (post game mainly), but his work in the midrange probably isn't ever coming back, and its something we could really use, especially late in games against tough defenses.

LeBron's midrange jumper is nice, but his actual midrange game is woefully lacking, and basically consists of holding the ball and taking a dribble step back jumper.

Re: Wade needs to get his mid range jumper back

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 11:40 pm
by secund2nun
Wade's midrange game will have to come back as he gets older and loses his athleticism. The coaches will make him do it eventually.

Re: Wade needs to get his mid range jumper back

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 11:49 pm
by dflash3
He started losing it when he decided to start taking threes, and his mid range game is almost not existent now. At the beginning of the season he would either force his way to the rim or chuck it up for a three point shot that reminded me of a Maggette/Walker abomination. When he did attempt a mid range jumper he'd either awkwardly attempt to draw a foul or fade away instead of going straight up like he used to. He has toned down a bit on his three point shooting, but his midrange shooting has improved in the sense that he isn't always trying to lean into the defender to draw a foul.

I feel as though Wade increasing his three attempts has made it easier for defenders to guard him, since he isn't accurate enough for defenders to close out on it consistently. I can actually recall a few times this season where an ill advised Wade three ruined any momentum during a Heat attempt at a comeback. One of my favorite aspects about Wade was that he used to never force the issue and get his points within the flow of the game, but he is still scoring his points at an extremely efficient rate. Of course, the reliance on either the three or the drive has led to some pretty poor performances against better teams. But, as Tim_Hardawayy mentioned Wade's post game has improved. If he'd just work on the midrange this offseason it would be beautiful.

Really wish Wade would model his game more after his idol Jordan who said "I don't want to live with this 'three' image too long because it takes away from some parts of my game," he said. "I start thinking on the break of going to the line and pulling up, instead of going to the basket. I like going to the hole. I like that creativity part of my game so much that if I worked on the three-pointer, it would take away from my style and my definition of my game."

Re: Wade needs to get his mid range jumper back

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 12:41 am
by SweetTouch
Yes he does, he's a SG and needs to be able to shoot the midrange jumper effectively

Re: Wade needs to get his mid range jumper back

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 1:11 am
by Chessboxer
Wade still has the touch. But he is a rhythm player and needs to keep taking these shots.

However, one of the main problems with Wade (and its been a problem thats crept up the last two seasons) is that he looks for drawing the foul on the defender rather than just rising up and hitting the jumpshot. He compounds the problem, because well.....he's just damn good at getting the defender in the air and drawing the foul and getting to the line. Its to the point now, where he's just relying on it.

The problem is, when he keeps trying to bait the defender and doesn't get the call, he gets out of rhythm, complains to the refs and forces the issue. The thing thats frustrating for us as fans is that his midrange is so beautiful watch when he goes to it. He has shoulder/head/up fakes, stepbacks, fadeaways, and he's arguably the best shooter off the dribble in the NBA(when he actually does it). Its such a waste that he doesn't actually use it.

That being said, Im confident we'll see Wades' jumper return again. It looked good in game 1 (his misses were actually close shots at the rim that he usually makes) and game 2 was a bit of an anomaly because he had not practiced and was bothered by migraines.

Ironically his postgame looks better than ever and is constantly developing. He has jumphooks/fadeaways/up and unders ec and always attracts double teams on the low block. I wonder if his work on his postups he's neglected his midrange skillset? If he ever mixes up his postgame with his midrange however...........

Re: Wade needs to get his mid range jumper back

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 2:36 pm
by youngeman
I agree that Wade mid range game has not been there for awhile. I've posted that comment even last season.
I haven't enjoy this version of Wade game all season long. Wade has no mid range, bank shot, and not really good in the assist department. Wade use to make really amazing passes all game long, now not so much. Lebron James game look so much fun to watch. What made Wade game special was his midrange and assist.
I think Wade will get expose in the playoff. Other teams are already starting to let Wade shoot the jump shot. In the past you couldn't guard Wade. Wade needs a Gary Peyton wake up call.

Re: Wade needs to get his mid range jumper back

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 3:32 pm
by narmerguy
youngeman wrote:I agree that Wade mid range game has not been there for awhile. I've posted that comment even last season.
I haven't enjoy this version of Wade game all season long. Wade has no mid range, bank shot, and not really good in the assist department. Wade use to make really amazing passes all game long, now not so much. Lebron James game look so much fun to watch. What made Wade game special was his midrange and assist.
I think Wade will get expose in the playoff. Other teams are already starting to let Wade shoot the jump shot. In the past you couldn't guard Wade. Wade needs a Gary Peyton wake up call.


This is really true. Wade was my favorite player because I really loved his versatility and his clever passing. This season he's really watered his game down to a lot of slashing (which he's admittedly good at) and post/pump-fakes. Basically, he's relying on his athleticism and finishing ability a lot more now instead of his touch, vision, and other skillsets.

Re: Wade needs to get his mid range jumper back

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 4:18 pm
by kenyu_weed
it will in due time he just needs to hit the gym and work on it, i thought the same thing until i seen the boston series last year :eek1:


whatever wade has to do he'll do it remember when he was goin in on the knicks with his cyclop glasses on ....... :nod:

Re: Wade needs to get his mid range jumper back

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 5:02 pm
by HIF
DRose >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>DWade

Re: Wade needs to get his mid range jumper back

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 5:38 pm
by shanedude
He has been hitting it better recently though.

Re: Wade needs to get his mid range jumper back

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 5:39 pm
by shanedude
HIF wrote:DRose >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>DWade

What are you doing?

Re: Wade needs to get his mid range jumper back

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 6:06 pm
by HIF
shanedude wrote:
HIF wrote:DRose >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>DWade

What are you doing?


Getting in with the trolls and haters. :wink:

Re: Wade needs to get his mid range game back to win the title

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 7:43 pm
by Aiolos
Seriously guys we need his mid range game back.

Rememeber how huge his jumpers were in the the finals game 3 and game 5?

Those clutch j's were super huge!

"Wade... Puts it in!!!! Miami leads!!!"

"Tie game with 1:20 to play Wade...BANG!!! DWYANE WADE AGAIN!!!"
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8Ul3NP6tKQ[/youtube]

On the bright side though Wade has been using him mid range jumper actually

These are his highlights for Game 1
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dBT5W5fSiM[/youtube]

Come on Wade we need a good mix of your driving game and mid range game.

Re: Wade needs to get his mid range jumper back

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:36 pm
by Zasterror
youngeman wrote:I agree that Wade mid range game has not been there for awhile. I've posted that comment even last season.
I haven't enjoy this version of Wade game all season long. Wade has no mid range, bank shot, and not really good in the assist department. Wade use to make really amazing passes all game long, now not so much. Lebron James game look so much fun to watch. What made Wade game special was his midrange and assist.
I think Wade will get expose in the playoff. Other teams are already starting to let Wade shoot the jump shot. In the past you couldn't guard Wade. Wade needs a Gary Peyton wake up call.


Yea Wade's midrange has taken a dip compared to all of his other years but it is the result of his new role with the Heat and that is to make easy buckets with his slashing while LeBron handles the rock. Previously, Wade pulls up jumpers when he has the ball in his hand to make a shot, whether it's off-the-dribble or in isolation (notsomuch of the LeBron way but he always keep the ball active and moving instead of running the clock). This season, LeBron has taken that role while Wade, for most of the season, had to get points in whatever way it's best for him and that's slashing. Maybe Wade isn't as confident of his jumper these days as he was in the past; everyone knows that Wade at one point had one of the deadliest jumpers in the league and what motivated him to improve that aspect of his game is the ones who doubted his ability to do that.

Now, respected, Wade wanted to expand his game to the 3-point line (preferable 08-09), something that he probably never will be able to master. Sure he has made it respectable for defenders to keep watch but Wade himself is not a good 3-point shooter; he is streaky at best which is probably why he keeps it up for some time now. With his new role for the Heat, even Wade can't fully utilize the 3-point ball the way he always wanted due to sharing roles. He forces the issue with his 3-ball and his midrange because it is not the way he embraces it back in the day. Wade can get his jumper back to the way it was; he just needs to know how to incorporate it into his new role with LeBron which may take a while.

Re: Wade needs to get his mid range game back to win the title

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:49 pm
by salqaddoumi
You know what's funny about the constant whining about Wade and his mid-range J this season? He's been more efficient with it this year than he was last.

2010: 47% from 3-9 feet, 34% from 10-15 feet, 36% from 16-23 feet
2011: 50% from 3-9 feet, 38.5% from 10-15 feet, 37% from 16-23 feet

His jumper (along with the rest of his game) was at its absolute peak in the 2009 season, he's hovered around the 38% mark every other year.

Source: hoopdata.com

Re: Wade needs to get his mid range game back to win the title

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 12:03 am
by Chosen01
salqaddoumi wrote:You know what's funny about the constant whining about Wade and his mid-range J this season? He's been more efficient with it this year than he was last.

2010: 47% from 3-9 feet, 34% from 10-15 feet, 36% from 16-23 feet
2011: 50% from 3-9 feet, 38.5% from 10-15 feet, 37% from 16-23 feet

His jumper (along with the rest of his game) was at its absolute peak in the 2009 season, he's hovered around the 38% mark every other year.

Source: hoopdata.com

His mid range shot is still there, its just that hes not attempting it as much as previous years(as you check Hoopsdata hes having his least 16-23 attempts in previous years) and more attempts around the rim this year.

Re: Wade needs to get his mid range game back to win the title

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 3:44 am
by Moggs24
Chosen01 wrote:
salqaddoumi wrote:You know what's funny about the constant whining about Wade and his mid-range J this season? He's been more efficient with it this year than he was last.

2010: 47% from 3-9 feet, 34% from 10-15 feet, 36% from 16-23 feet
2011: 50% from 3-9 feet, 38.5% from 10-15 feet, 37% from 16-23 feet

His jumper (along with the rest of his game) was at its absolute peak in the 2009 season, he's hovered around the 38% mark every other year.

Source: hoopdata.com

His mid range shot is still there, its just that hes not attempting it as much as previous years(as you check Hoopsdata hes having his least 16-23 attempts in previous years) and more attempts around the rim this year.


This

Although I feel he could certainly use his mid range game more effectively, the real difference is that he feels that his job is the penetrate and attack the rim. I think his mind set largely is why settle for a jump shot when I know I can get to the rim and draw contact.

As far as the difference in his jump shot I think it is obvious he is not getting the lift on his shot he had when he was a deadly mid range shooter. Also he is falling back into his bad habits of fading away on it instead of staying vertical.

I think even with the problems he has had with it he stills needs to get it off early, whether he is hitting it or not, in order to keep the defenders honest. I'd love to see he start using that running midrange shot off the glass as well, but we shall see how things unfold over the course of the playoffs.