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Heat are in a hole right now. We can't plan on playing that fast pace continuously as our players get tired. This is your chance to give Spo and co your vision. Let's do a little brain storming for his incompetent ass, remember the grizzlies went after Arenas after consulting a fan forum so Spo could be a lurker on these boards.

First thing in my opinion, we should start Turiaf as he is our most complete center. His passing and scoring would open up the game for Wade and Lebron. Joel can come of the Bench to match up against smaller bench centers. When we start Joel and Bosh, we have no ball movement inside and we get badly outrebounded. All this lead to bad starts and we find ourselves trailing for the rest of the game. Most of our recent games were lost in the first quarter.

I also think that we should bring Wade of the bench to play the Ginobili role. With the regression of Chalmers and Miller we lack scoring from the bench. It's all about maintaining a certain balance and a continuous flow of energy. Of course, he would still close the game with Lebron. Both these guys need the ball and are to talented to seat at the 3pt line. They are like sharks, if they stop getting the ball, moving, and attacking, they drift away from the game and die.

Lebron and Wade should revert to their back to the basket post game. No one can stop Lebron on the block and Wade is pretty good too, why go away from something that brought us success in so many games and go back to isolation plays ?

Whether he likes it or not Spo needs to feed Pittman with minutes when the game gets to physical against the like of Howard, Perkins and co.

Terrel Harris should be activated instead of Juwan, we could really use this kid's young and fresh legs for defensive purpose when Miller and Battier are slow to close out. Harris is also a very good rebounder, an area in which we lack.

Tell Norris Cole that his job is to facilitate the game and not score. He should pattern his game after Rondo and forget the shooting unless the clock is running. If he cannot understand this, we might have to go after Anthony Carter.

Never play Chalmers in the 4th if he can't hit his shot. Mario is way to slow to guard these speedy PG which leads to a lot of defensive breakdowns. Lately, Nelson and Collisson have been killing us. Not to mention that Mario always find a way to go for the boneheaded plays at the most critic stage of the game. If Chalmers still doesn't respond, start Cole just to light a fire under his ass and match him up against slower bench PGs where he can do some damge. Remember how well Mario he played at the beginning of the year when Cole was a threat to him. This way, you can use Cole as a motivational tool, at least he will play nice D and stay in front of his man.

Light a fire under Bosh ass and make him accountable for his poor rebounding games. We should also run more plays for him.

When we need scoring to come back in a game or extend a lead, let Jones do his thing and swish these 3 pointers.

Cole - Chalmers - Wade/Lebron

Miller - Wade - Harris

Lebron - Battier - Jones

Bosh - Haslem - Turiaf

Turiaf - Joel - Pittman

Make Wade a bench player? hahahahaha

never go full dumb (lol I didn't know realgm didn't let you use that other word)

rest rest and more rest

I don't care if we lose out on the div. title..

the last 11 game was helluva stretch ....


@ Portland
@ Utah
@ LA
Atlanta
Indiana
@ Orlando
@ Chicago
@ Philly
Orlando
@OKC
@Indiana

chi2x
boston3x to come

thk Stein ....Spo do the league a favor and rest Lebron/wade

Woolyy wrote:Make Wade a bench player? hahahahaha

Ginobili is an all star starter by all counts and a similar player to wade yet Popovich recognised how great it would be having him come of the bench. With this strategy, he was able to win 4 championships...allow yourself sometimes to think outside the box.

SweetTouch wrote:never go full dumb (lol I didn't know realgm didn't let you use that other word)

Another player in this situation is Harden, an all star with a similar game to Wade. He is coming of the bench, to improve the scoring balance and allow Durant and Westbrook to do their thing without wasting the third star talent.

The Spurs did also the same thing with Duncan-Giniboli-Parker because they too had no great shot creator coming of the bench. To this day Ginobili kills 2nd units and helps his team win.

The way we run this roster, Lebron plays too many minutes and get tired which leads to the kind of debacle we had against the Mavericks.

Stupidest thread I read in a while.

Vertical Limit wrote:Stupidest thread I read in a while.

That what just an idea among others, but the only one u choosed to comment with a closed mind. Watch Ginobili when we face the spurs, they are loading up for a run at the ship and the just destroyed the Thunder twice already.


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If anything, Bosh should come off the bench.

That would allow him to carry the second unit while also placing a better rebounding, less ball needy player in the starting unit.

Chalmers/ Cole
Wade/ Miller
James/ Battier
Haslam/ Bosh
Turiaf/ Anthony

...His minutes would stay the same and he would still end games, but the team would be more balanced from first to second unit. Similar to the way the Bulls utilized Rodman and Kukoc.

Rest! in a compressed season with the style of our defense, relying so much on speed and athleticism this was going to happen sooner or later im afraid.

The question is, Lbj, Wade, Bosh came here to not have to play their hearts out for the team to be able to win, i am afraid that our type of defense will shorten their peaks especially Lebrons alot!

I was sure in the beginning of the season that he had atleast 4-5 great years in him, but playing him this much and hard i could see him drop off in 3 years

Rest, rest, and...you guessed it more rest.

I agree on starting Turiaf. Yeah he provides a spark off the bench but he's not the type of player that can carry the bench like a Harden, Terry, Odom (Pre-Mavs), etc. He can do some damage alongside Wade/LeBron.

LeBron James, following Monday's loss to the Indiana Pacers, "It's not like we're the youngest team in the league. We didn't have as much energy."

Dwyane Wade, after the Heat yielded a season-high 54 rebounds 11 days ago in Philadelphia, "We're not the most athletic team. We've got a few athletic players, but we've got a lot of other guys who aren't as athletic."

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/blog ... 5136.story

1) Pittman needs to continue being utilized. We need any size in the rotation plain & simple.

2) No more shots off the dribble for Haslem. If it's not there, pass it.

3) Cole pushed a lot of fast breaks for us early on. That needs to come back. Get him the ball fast.

4) Turiaf needs increased minutes at PF and not out of position at Center. He's a true PF.

5) Chalmers needs to come off the bench for a few games.

6) Lebron should take 2 games off.

7) Lebron & Bosh need to set up in the post much much more. (higher % shot+ in position to rebound)

8) The defense must also incorporate zones, traps and man to man no collapsing to mix things up. The coach is not being creative enough with his playbook. This also needs to be addressed. The team lacks discipline which the coach's responsibility to maintain it by rotating other players into the game when others are not performing to their expectations.

9) Have a free throw & 3pt shooting contest amongst the players.

10) Have a rebounding contest amongst the players.

kind of sad to hear Wade and Bron talk like that now. last year it was all about how athletic we are and that's how we're so effective etc. moral seems low at the moment.

Cole can keep pushing hard but i would rather him pull up for jump shots and miss rather than getting rejected by a chase down that happens way too often.

Heat_team02 wrote:1) Pittman needs to continue being utilized. We need any size in the rotation plain & simple.

2) No more shots off the dribble for Haslem. If it's not there, pass it.

3) Cole pushed a lot of fast breaks for us early on. That needs to come back. Get him the ball fast.

4) Turiaf needs increased minutes at PF and not out of position at Center. He's a true PF.

5) Chalmers needs to come off the bench for a few games.

6) Lebron should take 2 games off.

7) Lebron & Bosh need to set up in the post much much more. (higher % shot+ in position to rebound)

8) The defense must also incorporate zones, traps and man to man no collapsing to mix things up. The coach is not being creative enough with his playbook. This also needs to be addressed. The team lacks discipline which the coach's responsibility to maintain it by rotating other players into the game when others are not performing to their expectations.

9) Have a free throw & 3pt shooting contest amongst the players.

10) Have a rebounding contest amongst the players.

I like your ideas for the rebounding and free throws incentives. I also like mixing up the defense and the offense. This team should be able to quickly adjust to any type of problematic, thus we need to implement different styles. I think the players are tired and bored of the lack of creativity. Spo should engage in some artistic activities like painting or music to open up his mind. There is absolutely no creative mind on this coaching staff, we will always be a step or two behind. I fear that we shorten Lebron career by playing him so many gruesome minutes. I'd like also to see Turiaf play at PF but he is our only capable center and we already have Bosh and UD playing PF.

Heat_team02 wrote:1) Pittman needs to continue being utilized. We need any size in the rotation plain & simple.

2) No more shots off the dribble for Haslem. If it's not there, pass it.

3) Cole pushed a lot of fast breaks for us early on. That needs to come back. Get him the ball fast.

4) Turiaf needs increased minutes at PF and not out of position at Center. He's a true PF.

5) Chalmers needs to come off the bench for a few games.

6) Lebron should take 2 games off.

7) Lebron & Bosh need to set up in the post much much more. (higher % shot+ in position to rebound)

8) The defense must also incorporate zones, traps and man to man no collapsing to mix things up. The coach is not being creative enough with his playbook. This also needs to be addressed. The team lacks discipline which the coach's responsibility to maintain it by rotating other players into the game when others are not performing to their expectations.

can you forward these ideas to this coach, I have said similar things and agree 102% with this ideas

11) Sign Jeff Foote 7'0 265 15ppg 55%FG 8.7 reb (32 NBDL games) to a contract & cut Juwan Howard.




12) Sign Morris Almond 23ppg 6 reb 55%FG 46% 3pt (25 NBDL games) & place Curry on IR.

No way Wade is going to come off the bech, and why should him. He was the reason the game against OKC was even a game and seems to be the only player with fire under his a$$ to attempt a shot when the heat is on, and making them.

I'd say if balance is what were looking for, then bench the less productive but capable player who's showing signs of being tired, or has not been productive in previous games or even in practice. Make a system that rewards performances and holds players accountable without directly insulting their egos.

But hell to the no, not with an inexperienced coach without a championship resume (no, 2006 does not count for video coordinators or assitants), and no need to remind anyone that the coach has no high level playing experience that he can voice his opinions as facts ala Phil Jackson or Pat Riley etc. I could go on with this, but I don't have enough time.

I will simply say that IMO Spo is not the right coach for a team that given the talent is underachieving in more ways than one.

The Heat may win a chip under this group, but it would be because the pure talent, not the genius coaching. They want dynasty, then Pat Riley next big thing should be should be looking for what I think is the main weakness, the coach.

fishfuego. wrote:No way Wade is going to come off the bech, and why should him. He was the reason the game against OKC was even a game and seems to be the only player with fire under his a$$ to attempt a shot when the heat is on, and making them.

I'd say if balance is what were looking for, then bench the less productive but capable player who's showing signs of being tired, or has not been productive in previous games or even in practice. Make a system that rewards performances and holds players accountable without directly insulting their egos.

But hell to the no, not with an inexperienced coach without a championship resume (no, 2006 does not count for video coordinators or assitants), and no need to remind anyone that the coach has no high level playing experience that he can voice his opinions as facts ala Phil Jackson or Pat Riley etc. I could go on with this, but I don't have enough time.

I will simply say that IMO Spo is not the right coach for a team that given the talent is underachieving in more ways than one.

The Heat may win a chip under this group, but it would be because the pure talent, not the genius coaching. They want dynasty, then Pat Riley next big thing should be should be looking for what I think is the main weakness, the coach.

Spo... what a waste of a golden opportunity with this team so far.

Flash4thewin wrote:

fishfuego. wrote:No way Wade is going to come off the bech, and why should him. He was the reason the game against OKC was even a game and seems to be the only player with fire under his a$$ to attempt a shot when the heat is on, and making them.

I'd say if balance is what were looking for, then bench the less productive but capable player who's showing signs of being tired, or has not been productive in previous games or even in practice. Make a system that rewards performances and holds players accountable without directly insulting their egos.

But hell to the no, not with an inexperienced coach without a championship resume (no, 2006 does not count for video coordinators or assitants), and no need to remind anyone that the coach has no high level playing experience that he can voice his opinions as facts ala Phil Jackson or Pat Riley etc. I could go on with this, but I don't have enough time.

I will simply say that IMO Spo is not the right coach for a team that given the talent is underachieving in more ways than one.

The Heat may win a chip under this group, but it would be because the pure talent, not the genius coaching. They want dynasty, then Pat Riley next big thing should be should be looking for what I think is the main weakness, the coach.

Spo... what a waste of a golden opportunity with this team so far.

Indeed.
Waste of golden opportunity is the sad truth. You take this team, exactly how it was last year (forget this year), and offer to trade with the team with best record this season straight up, and I can bet my savings that putting all the fanboyism aside and all the sentiments etc, you would get an ok. In other words, most coaches in this game know that they can win a chip with this group, almost a no brainer.
Half of them know they would have won it last year.

Only way Spoelstra gets fired is if we lose in the ECF. Then you might here about Sloan or even Phil Jackson coming here.

Anyways about this thread, sorry, this team is too talented for that crap. Wade, Lebron and Bosh are going through a slump, it happens people, we've had worst ones last year.

These players need rest, this is not your ordinary season. If you expect them to play like they did against the Knicks a couple weeks back night in and night out, you're dreaming. That is too much energy to exert.