Beasley for Miller revisited

Sign5 · Post #1 » by **Sign5** » Wed May 16, 2012 6:27 pm

Many of you guys kept claiming it was a perfect deal, claiming Miller "fits" better but seriously? What exactly is the difference between Miller and Beasley that's actually beneficial in what we've seen in these playoffs?

Beasley is a 38% 3pt shooter,so even if you told the guy spot up and shoot 3s I honestly thnk he'd do a better job than Miller simply because.... he isn't afraid to shoot.What this team needs is a Jason terry type player off the bench who has a scoring mentally.No one on this team is like that all.Yes Beasley was definitely a bust for what he was supposed to be but it still wasn't a wise move trading the no 2 pick who was 21 for a guy on the wrong side of 30 who can't even do what he was brought here to do.
Not to mention Miller is ALWAYS injured, (who knows how many games he'll miss next season?)

In my opinion the best move( move that I thought Riley was going to do) was at least build up Beasley's trade value playing with the big 3. Even with his out of court issues, lets say he averaged something like 13-15ppg 5rpg on 38% 3pt shooting would be better than w/e Miller averaged if he couldn't be moved..

At this moment we're stuck Miller who's averaging 5 and 3 on 33% shooting and will only get worse

Sorry but Riley messed up on that part.

Ratchet_Rio · Post #2 » by **Ratchet_Rio** » Wed May 16, 2012 6:29 pm

Beasley is a legit 6th man of the year candidate on this team. And he does something no one on this bench can do, create scoring for themselves. You're right, Riley dropped the ball on that one

Vertical Limit · Post #3 » by **Vertical Limit** » Wed May 16, 2012 6:33 pm

Too bad his contract is ridiculous, else I would want to trade for him. He has a Player Option this upcoming season which he won't even hesitate to pick up at 8.2 million.

OtW · Post #4 » by **OtW** » Wed May 16, 2012 7:14 pm

No one expected the Beasley deal to be this bad. Miller was suppose to be our Steve Kerr off the bench. Now it looks bad. Really bad. Imagine how much Beasley could have learned from Bron and Bosh, both of those guys are top players at their positions which happen to be the same positions that Beasley plays, PF and SF.

Now that we know Miller is Mr. Glass, and has fallen off a bit as a shooter, and is afraid to shoot, yeah, it looks like a screw up.

Looked good on paper. No one could have imagined it like this.

WD · Post #5 » by WD » Wed May 16, 2012 7:38 pm

That's what we get for choosing an aging vet over a promising young player that we drafted at number 2. I am so jealous of how OKC built their team.

Chosen01 · Post #6 » by **Chosen01** » Wed May 16, 2012 7:49 pm

Was a dumb move said it from the start.Beasley's production>>>> Miller who will only get worse.

If no one wanted Beasley fine, we could've signed him for a cheap contract which would be way less than his worth for someone of his talent.He was a bust but he's like 8 younger and could only get better not to mention he actually wants to shoot which what we need unlike Miller.

Plus his off-court issues were exaggerated anyway, he smoked weed in the offseason so what?80% of the nba players do that anyways just that Beasley isn't smart enough to hide the crap.

Also could just imagine him and Bosh goofing around in post games lol.

WD · Post #7 » by WD » Wed May 16, 2012 7:59 pm

Chosen01 wrote:Was a dumb move said it from the start.Beasley's production>>>> Miller who will only get worse.

If no one wanted Beasley fine, we could've signed him for a cheap contract which would be way less than his worth for someone of his talent.He was a bust but he's like 8 younger and could only get better not to mention he actually wants to shoot which what we need unlike Miller.

Plus his off-court issues were exaggerated anyway, he smoked weed in the offseason so what?80% of the nba players do that anyways just that Beasley isn't smart enough to hide the crap.

Also could just imagine him and Bosh goofing around in post games lol.

Ike Austin comes to mind. Anyway, we could have used his spacing last night right?

Slot Machine · Post #8 » by **Slot Machine** » Wed May 16, 2012 8:42 pm

Beasley is a perfect fit for us right now, too. Any chance we somehow swing a deal with Minnesota in the offseason to get him back? They want to get rid of him so we might as well make a call.

twix2500 · Post #9 » by **twix2500** » Wed May 16, 2012 9:19 pm

Again, another complaint about our perimeter players. Listen we have very good perimeter players, the problem with the team is our interior play outside of Bosh. We rely too much on our perimter players, they have to shoot, handle the ball, they have to rebound because our bigs cant, they have to post up and score in the paint because our bigs cant, they have to defend in the paint along with defend the perimeter becaust our bigs cant. We have Mike Miller, Shaun Battier and Lebron all playing in the post and at the same time expect them to handle the perimeter responsibilities. We are asking too much, we need to fix out bigs not fix our perimeter players. The Heat perimeter players spent so much energy defending that they were wore out at the end of the game. We need to fix our bigs so our perimeter players can be guess what perimter players. PERIOD

Vertical Limit · Post #10 » by **Vertical Limit** » Wed May 16, 2012 9:24 pm

Chalm Down Bro wrote:Beasley is a perfect fit for us right now, too. Any chance we somehow swing a deal with Minnesota in the offseason to get him back? They want to get rid of him so we might as well make a call.

Would they want Haslem and Miller? Because that's what it will take salary wise.

Slot Machine · Post #11 » by **Slot Machine** » Wed May 16, 2012 9:32 pm

Vertical Limit wrote:
Chalm Down Bro wrote:Beasley is a perfect fit for us right now, too. Any chance we somehow swing a deal with Minnesota in the offseason to get him back? They want to get rid of him so we might as well make a call.

Would they want Haslem and Miller? Because that's what it will take salary wise.

Good question. Depends on how bad of a locker room guy they think he is, and how much they've been watching UD and MM lately. Also, depends on if they think UD and MM are just having down years. I really hope they're desperate to dump him because I doubt they'd take UD and MM only.

Then again, their GM is Kahn.

CablexDeadpool · Post #12 » by **CablexDeadpool** » Wed May 16, 2012 9:42 pm

twix2500 wrote:Again, another complaint about our perimeter players. Listen we have very good perimeter players, the problem with the team is our interior play outside of Bosh. We rely too much on our perimter players, they have to shoot, handle the ball, they have to rebound because our bigs cant, they have to post up and score in the paint because our bigs cant, they have to defend in the paint along with defend the perimeter becaust our bigs cant. We have Mike Miller, Shaun Battier and Lebron all playing in the post and at the same time expect them to handle the perimeter responsibilities. We are asking too much, we need to fix out bigs not fix our perimeter players. The Heat perimeter players spent so much energy defending that they were wore out at the end of the game. We need to fix our bigs so our perimeter players can be guess what perimter players. PERIOD

You must be talking about Lebron because all Shane and Miller do is stand in the corner on offense because they can't do anything else.

Heat traded an offensive capable player and draftpicks for Miller who can't do anything.

Beasley can play the 3 and the 4. We wouldn't even worry about about offensive interior production.

The Heat do have bigs, they just don't want to play them because they believe that Mike Miller and Shane Battier are actually good enough. They are not. Shane can somewhat do a decent job guarding the best player so he's alright just for that. He hits a 3 every 3 games. Whatever. Miller does nothing. I don't even think he gives out water. Everyone once in a while he decides to actually play basketball instead of running and up and down the court and passing up shots.

Heat have Haslem Joel Turiaf and Pittman

They can at least bang and jump around out there. Heat don't have problems defending, they can't score.

Most bigs today don't score, they just block shots and rebound. I am worried about the problem of getting out scored for 6 minutes and then having Lebron and Wade go bananas just to struggle to squeak out enough points.

CablexDeadpool · Post #13 » by **CablexDeadpool** » Wed May 16, 2012 9:44 pm

Chalm Down Bro wrote:
Vertical Limit wrote:
Chalm Down Bro wrote:Beasley is a perfect fit for us right now, too. Any chance we somehow swing a deal with Minnesota in the offseason to get him back? They want to get rid of him so we might as well make a call.

Would they want Haslem and Miller? Because that's what it will take salary wise.

Good question. Depends on how bad of a locker room guy they think he is, and how much they've been watching UD and MM lately. Also, depends on if they think UD and MM are just having down years. I really hope they're desperate to dump him because I doubt they'd take UD and MM only.

Then again, their GM is Kahn.

I don't think Beasley would want anything to deal with Spo and the coaching staff after how they treated him.

Slot Machine · Post #14 » by **Slot Machine** » Wed May 16, 2012 9:49 pm

CablexDeadpool wrote:
I don't think Beasley would want anything to deal with Spo and the coaching staff after how they treated him.

Honestly, I don't see Beasley as the type to hold grudges. I think if you told him he'd be the 6th man, get reliable minutes, and basically be given the green light to score, I think he'd buy in. Plus, Spo might not even be here next year.

CablexDeadpool · Post #15 » by **CablexDeadpool** » Wed May 16, 2012 9:54 pm

Chalm Down Bro wrote:
CablexDeadpool wrote:
I don't think Beasley would want anything to deal with Spo and the coaching staff after how they treated him.

Honestly, I don't see Beasley as the type to hold grudges. I think if you told him he'd be the 6th man, get reliable minutes, and basically be given the green light to score, I think he'd buy in. Plus, Spo might not even be here next year.

True...

He could get like 17 pts a night with this offensively challenged squad.

CablexDeadpool · Post #16 » by **CablexDeadpool** » Wed May 16, 2012 9:56 pm

Traded this away for Mike Miller :cry:

And this was this year.

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Vertical Limit · Post #17 » by **Vertical Limit** » Wed May 16, 2012 10:09 pm

Riley make it happen! Correct your mistake.

WD · Post #18 » by WD » Wed May 16, 2012 10:09 pm

I wouldn't come back to this same system and these same coaches. Beasley deserves better, needs to be on a team that can nurture not exploited(strong word, I know).

Flash4thewin · Post #19 » by **Flash4thewin** » Wed May 16, 2012 10:12 pm

If Spo is fired and a new coach and new system i can see us making a bid for Beasley. UD feeling might get hurt but we just want to win. Ironically Beasley is now pretty decent and is a full time SF that can play PF. The main thing that has held him back this year was his injuries

Slot Machine · Post #20 » by **Slot Machine** » Wed May 16, 2012 10:21 pm

Flash4thewin wrote:If Spo is fired and a new coach and new system i can see us making a bid for Beasley. UD feeling might get hurt but we just want to win. Ironically Beasley is now pretty decent and is a full time SF that can play PF. The main thing that has held him back this year was his injuries

Yep, Adelman didn't seem to like him either, He didn't get as much PT as he deserved. He's underutilized there, so we still have a small shot at reacquiring him. Sadly, I really doubt we get Beazy back.