Game 4 Do or Die.. Can LeBron score 40?
Moderators: KingDavid, heat4life, MettaWorldPanda, Wiltside, IggieCC, BFRESH44, QUIZ
Game 4 Do or Die.. Can LeBron score 40?
-
- Junior
- Posts: 428
- And1: 16
- Joined: Feb 20, 2012
Game 4 Do or Die.. Can LeBron score 40?
Can Lebron score over 35 at least? He might need to do this and just slack on defense and hope other guys pick him up in order for the Heat to stand a chance. The bigger issue is that he needs to close. We all know he's scared of the moment and stays away from that ball in crunch time. LeBron might have to put up a MVP worthy performance to save the season This is do or die. You can't be the best player in the world as disappear when its obvious the team needs you most. No Bosh, Wade isn't 100%, the rest of the squad stinking it up ... Is he capable of pulling it off? I'm not talking about talent wise I'm talking about does he have it inside him to play desperate and hungry?
Re: Game 4 Do or Die.. Can LeBron score 40?
-
- RealGM
- Posts: 10,316
- And1: 1,214
- Joined: Apr 01, 2012
Re: Game 4 Do or Die.. Can LeBron score 40?
I guess he was afraid of the moment when he was closing out Boston and Chicago too
he can't get 40 if he has to guard the 4 position for most of the game. We have to hope that Wade steps up and the role players give us enough. It's simple as that.

Re: Game 4 Do or Die.. Can LeBron score 40?
-
- Banned User
- Posts: 4,547
- And1: 67
- Joined: Apr 07, 2012
Re: Game 4 Do or Die.. Can LeBron score 40?
U want team ball or do you want him to go for 40 which is it, Too have both is not an option at this point
Re: Game 4 Do or Die.. Can LeBron score 40?
-
- RealGM
- Posts: 11,709
- And1: 7,178
- Joined: Jul 08, 2006
-
Re: Game 4 Do or Die.. Can LeBron score 40?
I think I rather have 40 at this point. Team ball isn't working when no one else can put up ****. Besides how many times has Lebron lost when he scored 40 or more? Probably not a lot.

Re: Game 4 Do or Die.. Can LeBron score 40?
-
- Banned User
- Posts: 1,657
- And1: 417
- Joined: May 10, 2012
-
Re: Game 4 Do or Die.. Can LeBron score 40?
So because Bosh is hurt, Wade "isnt 100%", and the rest of the squad is stinking it up we're now in the position where we are asking LeBron to go 1 on 5 to save our season? Jeez..and the whole time I thought he came here cause he was tired of having to do everything
Re: Game 4 Do or Die.. Can LeBron score 40?
-
- Junior
- Posts: 428
- And1: 16
- Joined: Feb 20, 2012
Re: Game 4 Do or Die.. Can LeBron score 40?
bro team ball is not going to cut it. Guys are missing wide open shots. At a certain point there has to be a player step up especially when he's the best in the world and says "ride my back" ... he did it against the Pistons some years ago. There is NO supporting cast right now,. The Pacers are too big and too deep for LeBron to have a 23, 7, 7 game and that be enough unless some guys go off. Chalmers went for 25 and that still wasn't enough cause Wade didn't show up.
Also you can talk about him closing out Boston and Chicago but ever since then the guy has the ball with less than 2 min left and he wants no part of the game unless he's playing against a horrible team. Come on did you watch game 2 against the Pacers? The guy wanted ZERO part of the game. Doesn't even attack the hole, doesn't try to make a play with less than a minute left like he would in quarter 1 or 2. Lets just be honest here ... anyone who thinks this guy hasn't mentally shrunken from the moment ever since the finals is lying to themselves. Lets be clear ... watch the end of game 2 against Indy and you'll see scared "no I don't want the ball" LeBron. Hot Potato wasn't trending for no reason right after the game. The whole world saw it ... don't be a blind homer.
Also you can talk about him closing out Boston and Chicago but ever since then the guy has the ball with less than 2 min left and he wants no part of the game unless he's playing against a horrible team. Come on did you watch game 2 against the Pacers? The guy wanted ZERO part of the game. Doesn't even attack the hole, doesn't try to make a play with less than a minute left like he would in quarter 1 or 2. Lets just be honest here ... anyone who thinks this guy hasn't mentally shrunken from the moment ever since the finals is lying to themselves. Lets be clear ... watch the end of game 2 against Indy and you'll see scared "no I don't want the ball" LeBron. Hot Potato wasn't trending for no reason right after the game. The whole world saw it ... don't be a blind homer.
Re: Game 4 Do or Die.. Can LeBron score 40?
- NoComparison
- Starter
- Posts: 2,221
- And1: 2
- Joined: May 08, 2012
Re: Game 4 Do or Die.. Can LeBron score 40?
-
- Junior
- Posts: 428
- And1: 16
- Joined: Feb 20, 2012
Re: Game 4 Do or Die.. Can LeBron score 40?
Anybody remember Drexler and the dream both went for 40 during their title run. Sometimes your stars have to take over. NBA is a stars league. Maybe the roll players step up for game 5 at home but for game 4 you don't take chances. If you're the league MVP you do everything you can to set the tone and take over a game.
Re: Game 4 Do or Die.. Can LeBron score 40?
-
- Banned User
- Posts: 1,657
- And1: 417
- Joined: May 10, 2012
-
Re: Game 4 Do or Die.. Can LeBron score 40?
HateMyThreads wrote: If you're the league MVP you do everything you can to set the tone and take over a game.
Can't disagree here..We'll see come Sunday
Re: Game 4 Do or Die.. Can LeBron score 40?
-
- Banned User
- Posts: 3,592
- And1: 40
- Joined: Feb 25, 2011
- Location: Above Rome
Re: Game 4 Do or Die.. Can LeBron score 40?
If lebron goes 30+ and wade goin around 25+ we should be okay. The whole james going 40 is really a big gamble at this point. Injured Wade or not.. he as to go out n perform.
Re: Game 4 Do or Die.. Can LeBron score 40?
-
- RealGM
- Posts: 10,316
- And1: 1,214
- Joined: Apr 01, 2012
Re: Game 4 Do or Die.. Can LeBron score 40?
HateMyThreads wrote:bro team ball is not going to cut it. Guys are missing wide open shots. At a certain point there has to be a player step up especially when he's the best in the world and says "ride my back" ... he did it against the Pistons some years ago. There is NO supporting cast right now,. The Pacers are too big and too deep for LeBron to have a 23, 7, 7 game and that be enough unless some guys go off. Chalmers went for 25 and that still wasn't enough cause Wade didn't show up.
Also you can talk about him closing out Boston and Chicago but ever since then the guy has the ball with less than 2 min left and he wants no part of the game unless he's playing against a horrible team. Come on did you watch game 2 against the Pacers? The guy wanted ZERO part of the game. Doesn't even attack the hole, doesn't try to make a play with less than a minute left like he would in quarter 1 or 2. Lets just be honest here ... anyone who thinks this guy hasn't mentally shrunken from the moment ever since the finals is lying to themselves. Lets be clear ... watch the end of game 2 against Indy and you'll see scared "no I don't want the ball" LeBron. Hot Potato wasn't trending for no reason right after the game. The whole world saw it ... don't be a blind homer.
Not buying the whole shrunken from the moment thing. You don't lose an ability you've had your whole career. You also know that prior to game 3 he led the whole playoffs in 4th quater scoring right?
Game 4 Do or Die.. Can LeBron score 40?
- LBJ 1through5
- Junior
- Posts: 287
- And1: 9
- Joined: May 14, 2012
Game 4 Do or Die.. Can LeBron score 40?
HateMyThreads wrote:bro team ball is not going to cut it. Guys are missing wide open shots. At a certain point there has to be a player step up especially when he's the best in the world and says "ride my back" ... he did it against the Pistons some years ago. There is NO supporting cast right now,. The Pacers are too big and too deep for LeBron to have a 23, 7, 7 game and that be enough unless some guys go off. Chalmers went for 25 and that still wasn't enough cause Wade didn't show up.
Also you can talk about him closing out Boston and Chicago but ever since then the guy has the ball with less than 2 min left and he wants no part of the game unless he's playing against a horrible team. Come on did you watch game 2 against the Pacers? The guy wanted ZERO part of the game. Doesn't even attack the hole, doesn't try to make a play with less than a minute left like he would in quarter 1 or 2. Lets just be honest here ... anyone who thinks this guy hasn't mentally shrunken from the moment ever since the finals is lying to themselves. Lets be clear ... watch the end of game 2 against Indy and you'll see scared "no I don't want the ball" LeBron. Hot Potato wasn't trending for no reason right after the game. The whole world saw it ... don't be a blind homer.
You realize that he doesn't have driving lanes? Why would Indy not put up a wall every play against LeBron? He can't just put his head down and run into defenders.
LeBron can certainly go off. He's done it before, as you have noted. But if he's going to do that, he will need to knock down outside shots. Against Detroit, he was hitting long off balance jumpers, fadeaways, etc.
What's most likely the path to victory is creating turnovers and getting into transition, or getting Hibbert into foul trouble.
Re: Game 4 Do or Die.. Can LeBron score 40?
- DefenseWins
- Retired Mod
- Posts: 39,525
- And1: 13,554
- Joined: Apr 30, 2011
-
Re: Game 4 Do or Die.. Can LeBron score 40?
meh.... I was shocked that LeBron disappeared in the 2nd half. I'd have to look and see why. They do double him and LeBron says when he's doubled he passes the ball so....
We lost game 3 in the 3rd quarter, and we lost that game. The same way we lost Game 2 only we tried to rally back.
This has to be a team effort with everyone showing up, rebounding and defense.
But our role players have hit a new low (Battier sucks ass, trade him, I thought he would be coming through by now, worthless), Bosh out, Wade apparently injured, LeBron can't do it all and play 45 minutes or whatever he hell Spo is going to do.
Better hope the Pacers have an off night.
Homer in me HEAT IN 6!!!
We lost game 3 in the 3rd quarter, and we lost that game. The same way we lost Game 2 only we tried to rally back.
This has to be a team effort with everyone showing up, rebounding and defense.
But our role players have hit a new low (Battier sucks ass, trade him, I thought he would be coming through by now, worthless), Bosh out, Wade apparently injured, LeBron can't do it all and play 45 minutes or whatever he hell Spo is going to do.
Better hope the Pacers have an off night.
Homer in me HEAT IN 6!!!
Re: Game 4 Do or Die.. Can LeBron score 40?
-
- Junior
- Posts: 428
- And1: 16
- Joined: Feb 20, 2012
Re: Game 4 Do or Die.. Can LeBron score 40?
LBJ 1through5 wrote:HateMyThreads wrote:bro team ball is not going to cut it. Guys are missing wide open shots. At a certain point there has to be a player step up especially when he's the best in the world and says "ride my back" ... he did it against the Pistons some years ago. There is NO supporting cast right now,. The Pacers are too big and too deep for LeBron to have a 23, 7, 7 game and that be enough unless some guys go off. Chalmers went for 25 and that still wasn't enough cause Wade didn't show up.
Also you can talk about him closing out Boston and Chicago but ever since then the guy has the ball with less than 2 min left and he wants no part of the game unless he's playing against a horrible team. Come on did you watch game 2 against the Pacers? The guy wanted ZERO part of the game. Doesn't even attack the hole, doesn't try to make a play with less than a minute left like he would in quarter 1 or 2. Lets just be honest here ... anyone who thinks this guy hasn't mentally shrunken from the moment ever since the finals is lying to themselves. Lets be clear ... watch the end of game 2 against Indy and you'll see scared "no I don't want the ball" LeBron. Hot Potato wasn't trending for no reason right after the game. The whole world saw it ... don't be a blind homer.
You realize that he doesn't have driving lanes? Why would Indy not put up a wall every play against LeBron? He can't just put his head down and run into defenders.
LeBron can certainly go off. He's done it before, as you have noted. But if he's going to do that, he will need to knock down outside shots. Against Detroit, he was hitting long off balance jumpers, fadeaways, etc.
What's most likely the path to victory is creating turnovers and getting into transition, or getting Hibbert into foul trouble.
No way dude .... He was hitting fall away shots and all that bug all the big shots were going to the hole. EVERY single big shot he hit the closer the game was to ending was DRIVING. You know why? No pick n roll. He isolated his man and took him to the hole no matter what. You isolate him with the shooters spread and with his vision if a big comes to double it should be an easy dunk. At worst its an open 3 for somebody. That pick n roll is not helping him. He told the pick setter to move in that Piston game cause he didn't want to give the ball up. Now? He's eager to give that ball up. Keep in mind I'm talking all under 2 min left. I'm not talking 4 quarter all the way. Just watched Kobe who's no where near who he used to be close out a game. Why? He isolated, zero picks. Durant in game 2 against LA ... just took his man off the dribble and attacked. Why is it Kobe and Durant can get it done when EVERYONE on the planet knows they are shooting important shots but for LeBron there's all these excuses. "Oh there's no room" ... "oh he can't because" .... Dude you get it done. Plain and simple.
Sure guys need to step up and do what they have to do but there's no reason why he can't dominate game 4. I don't want to hear that the Pacers won't let him. The Pistons played freaking box and 1 against LBJ when he was less of a player, had a worse jump shot, less experience and he got it done. Great players JUST GET IT DONE. There's no reason why Lebron can't set the tone. All these iso situations where he's taking fall away jump shots against guys are who are 3 inches shorter than him or weaker than him physically is ridiculous. He went out swinging in game 7 the year he lost to the Celtics where he dropped 46 or whatever he dropped. It took Pierce to have his GREATEST game ever and Allen, and KG to hit big shots to take him out. Pacers don't have a Pierce ... their core is good but they are no where NEAR that Celtics team. This is the time you step up ... game 4, on the road, ya best forward down, ya co star injured, take control. Go look at that terrible team that LeBron led to the finals. Eric Snow, Boobie Gibson, Big Z, crazy hair, David Wesley, Damon Jones, Drew Gooden, ... come on now. Chalmers, Battier, Miller, and D freaking Wade. Hurt or not give me a hurt D Wade over anybody on that Cavs roster. Stop the damn pick n roll, isolate lebron or have Wade coming off a pick and lebron coming to get the ball from wade so he's already in motion with space to work. Great players get it done ... plain and simple. LBJ is going to need to at least drop 35 for the Heat to win game 4. Sure Battier, Miller, Chalmers and even Cole might have to hit shots. Sure Wade might have to drop at least 18-20 ... LBJ needs to STEP IT UP and under 2 min left not play hot potato with the ball. I just watched game 2 again from the 3 min mark ... its disgusting to watch him get rid of the ball as soon as it was in his hands. To top it off he wasn't doubled, his defender was backed off, the floor was spread ... he wanted NOTHING to do with making a play. Its reality
Re: Game 4 Do or Die.. Can LeBron score 40?
-
- Head Coach
- Posts: 7,408
- And1: 58
- Joined: Jul 09, 2005
- Location: none
Re: Game 4 Do or Die.. Can LeBron score 40?
HateMyThreads wrote:Can Lebron score over 35 at least? He might need to do this and just slack on defense and hope other guys pick him up in order for the Heat to stand a chance. The bigger issue is that he needs to close. We all know he's scared of the moment and stays away from that ball in crunch time. LeBron might have to put up a MVP worthy performance to save the season This is do or die. You can't be the best player in the world as disappear when its obvious the team needs you most. No Bosh, Wade isn't 100%, the rest of the squad stinking it up ... Is he capable of pulling it off? I'm not talking about talent wise I'm talking about does he have it inside him to play desperate and hungry?
You want him to score 40? Then other guys gotta step up.
He is playing PG, SF, PF for u. If people do their job, he would be killing the Pacers right now as they have no one to control him. With Wade sucking in game 3, the Pacers started building a wall around the basket on Lebron in the 2nd half.
IF guys step up and do their part, Lebron will take us home.
Re: Game 4 Do or Die.. Can LeBron score 40?
-
- Banned User
- Posts: 1,668
- And1: 0
- Joined: Jan 29, 2012
Re: Game 4 Do or Die.. Can LeBron score 40?
All I ask is he and wade shoulder the burden and help each other out. Lebron 37, wade 30. Whatever it is, lead us to victory
Re: Game 4 Do or Die.. Can LeBron score 40?
-
- Rookie
- Posts: 1,086
- And1: 4
- Joined: May 04, 2012
Re: Game 4 Do or Die.. Can LeBron score 40?
LeBron 30, Wade 24, Chalmers 12, Miller 6, Battier 6, Turiaf 5, Haslem 4, Joel 2.
Re: Game 4 Do or Die.. Can LeBron score 40?
- NoComparison
- Starter
- Posts: 2,221
- And1: 2
- Joined: May 08, 2012
Re: Game 4 Do or Die.. Can LeBron score 40?
-
- Junior
- Posts: 333
- And1: 0
- Joined: Apr 10, 2010
Re: Game 4 Do or Die.. Can LeBron score 40?
I hope we win the game
Re: Game 4 Do or Die.. Can LeBron score 40?
-
- Banned User
- Posts: 7
- And1: 0
- Joined: May 18, 2012
Re: Game 4 Do or Die.. Can LeBron score 40?
i think that this will be the game where Joel anthony will step up as a true floor general, just like Chris Paul