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We were worried about this happening last series when Spo decided to start having Lebron do everything and never leave the court. But he's starting to get that exhausted look to his game in second halfs like the Dallas series last year. Where he's trying to rest on offense by hiding in the corner and letting Wade work.

Look at his jumper in the second half of these games. He's getting out to flying starts, and then is missing everything outside of the paint in the second half.

Plus getting his shots blocked on layups by KG.

I think even if we somehow made the finals--I don't think Lebron has enough left in the tank to win a title.

I think we've found out that the big three model without great coaching, and great role players, is a failure. You can't be this top heavy.

No

but I don't like that far away look in his eyes during the 4th quarters sometimes.

HIF wrote:No

but I don't like that far away look in his eyes during the 4th quarters sometimes.

Sad but true...

That far away look in his eye is fatigue. It's hard to be mentally strong when you have nothing left physically. Go run yourself to exhaustion and then try and make a pressure free throw.

EscapoTHB wrote:That far away look in his eye is fatigue. It's hard to be mentally strong when you have nothing left physically. Go run yourself to exhaustion and then try and make a pressure free throw.

Didnt I make a thread "Nitpick time: LeBron's mins"

I said this would be a problem.

He's a combination of physically/mentally tired. Not that he's worn out and can't get it done, but he needs some help. Imagine if he could sit for 4 min. at the start of the 4th, and not come into a deficit situation?

GMurr wrote:He's a combination of physically/mentally tired. Not that he's worn out and can't get it done, but he needs some help. Imagine if he could sit for 4 min. at the start of the 4th, and not come into a deficit situation?

45 mins of covering Rondo, Pierce and KG can tire you down also. Spo plays him too many mins...so thats another issue going on.

OF COURSE he's gassed. Lebron is playing with a bunch of trash right now. There's no other way to it. Lebron literally has the burden of...
1. Set up his offense and put up 30 each night to even keep it close.
2. Set up the offense for his teammates because apparently no one on the team can do it themselves
3. Take yourself out of scoring to "help teammates make shots"
4. OK but now you have to score much more again so you BETTER "STILL be hot"
5. No Lebron you don't get to sit for an entire 2nd half but you MUST be energized and domintant to take over in the 4th. Not with a measly 9 points either. WE NEED DOUBLE DIGITS otherwise you're "scared".
6. And oh yeah... GUARD EVERYONE!

It's really a **** joke at this point. I hope they are able to do the unthinkable and win the next two...but with the garbage he is playing with right now, that's a BIG IF. All I can hope is that Bosh is as "ready" as he says and he comes out there dominating for 4 quarters with him.

ecnirp wrote:45 mins of covering Rondo, Pierce and KG can tire you down also. Spo plays him too many mins...so thats another issue going on.

I'm not a big fan of Spo, but what exactly is the other option here? Has anyone been paying attention to how utterly horrendous this team looks when he is not playing? If he sat for 4 minutes in each half we would probably be outscored by a minimum of 10-12 points in those 8 minutes. That's asking a lot for him to overcome, even if he is more "fresh" for the 4th quarter.

adambigbucks wrote:

ecnirp wrote:45 mins of covering Rondo, Pierce and KG can tire you down also. Spo plays him too many mins...so thats another issue going on.

I'm not a big fan of Spo, but what exactly is the other option here? Has anyone been paying attention to how utterly horrendous this team looks when he is not playing? If he sat for 4 minutes in each half we would probably be outscored by a minimum of 10-12 points in those 8 minutes. That's asking a lot for him to overcome, even if he is more "fresh" for the 4th quarter.

Have to find a way to spot him 8 mins. Dont you see Doc Rivers trusting his role players in order for KG/Pierce get rest?

And rest LeBron the first 4 mins of the 4th Qrt. Have faith that Wade and shooters can get offense.

lebron putting up 30/9/6 and playing everywhere defense. the guy is not god. he needs help.

when he put up 18/9 in the first half last night, they should have had a bigger lead AT HOME. pathetic.

Game 5 will be remembered as the Game the Heat had a 13 POINT LEAD

ecnirp wrote:

adambigbucks wrote:

ecnirp wrote:45 mins of covering Rondo, Pierce and KG can tire you down also. Spo plays him too many mins...so thats another issue going on.

I'm not a big fan of Spo, but what exactly is the other option here? Has anyone been paying attention to how utterly horrendous this team looks when he is not playing? If he sat for 4 minutes in each half we would probably be outscored by a minimum of 10-12 points in those 8 minutes. That's asking a lot for him to overcome, even if he is more "fresh" for the 4th quarter.

Have to find a way to spot him 8 mins. Dont you see Doc Rivers trusting his role players in order for KG/Pierce get rest?

And rest LeBron the first 4 mins of the 4th Qrt. Have faith that Wade and shooters can get offense.

8 min is unrealistic, and Pierce played 43 min to Bron's 45. Difference is Pierce doesn't have to do everything for Boston, he can take plays off on O. Bron should get a 3 minute break in both halves, with a break at the start of the 4th (game isn't won or lost in the first half).

GMurr wrote:

ecnirp wrote:

adambigbucks wrote:
I'm not a big fan of Spo, but what exactly is the other option here? Has anyone been paying attention to how utterly horrendous this team looks when he is not playing? If he sat for 4 minutes in each half we would probably be outscored by a minimum of 10-12 points in those 8 minutes. That's asking a lot for him to overcome, even if he is more "fresh" for the 4th quarter.

Have to find a way to spot him 8 mins. Dont you see Doc Rivers trusting his role players in order for KG/Pierce get rest?

And rest LeBron the first 4 mins of the 4th Qrt. Have faith that Wade and shooters can get offense.

8 min is unrealistic, and Pierce played 43 min to Bron's 45. Difference is Pierce doesn't have to do everything for Boston, he can take plays off on O. Bron should get a 3 minute break in both halves, with a break at the start of the 4th (game isn't won or lost in the first half).

Pierce shot 6/19, 5 fouls, made 1 big hero shot = a great game for him

Imagine if LBJ shot 6/19

I feel sorry for the guy at this point. He has to do so much but people still nitpick about him only scoring 9 **** points in the 4th quater. This **** is just ridiculous at this point. Either Spo needs to go or we should do him the favor of trading him elsewhere.

I don't really like Lebron, but the guy plays all minutes of all games and is required to do everything on offense and guards all positions on defense. And his style of play is physically taxing as well.
I guess when people say "He's not human" Spo takes it literally

SweetTouch wrote:
Have to find a way to spot him 8 mins. Dont you see Doc Rivers trusting his role players in order for KG/Pierce get rest?

And rest LeBron the first 4 mins of the 4th Qrt. Have faith that Wade and shooters can get offense.

8 min is unrealistic, and Pierce played 43 min to Bron's 45. Difference is Pierce doesn't have to do everything for Boston, he can take plays off on O. Bron should get a 3 minute break in both halves, with a break at the start of the 4th (game isn't won or lost in the first half).[/quote]

Pierce shot 6/19, 5 fouls, made 1 big hero shot = a great game for him

Imagine if LBJ shot 6/19[/quote]

Sad thing is...Imagine if LeBron has a "non LeBron" game? He'd be killed forever for it.

arsenic wrote:OF COURSE he's gassed. Lebron is playing with a bunch of trash right now. There's no other way to it. Lebron literally has the burden of...
1. Set up his offense and put up 30 each night to even keep it close.
2. Set up the offense for his teammates because apparently no one on the team can do it themselves
3. Take yourself out of scoring to "help teammates make shots"
4. OK but now you have to score much more again so you BETTER "STILL be hot"
5. No Lebron you don't get to sit for an entire 2nd half but you MUST be energized and domintant to take over in the 4th. Not with a measly 9 points either. WE NEED DOUBLE DIGITS otherwise you're "scared".
6. And oh yeah... GUARD EVERYONE!

It's really a **** joke at this point. I hope they are able to do the unthinkable and win the next two...but with the garbage he is playing with right now, that's a BIG IF. All I can hope is that Bosh is as "ready" as he says and he comes out there dominating for 4 quarters with him.

I agree 100% at the same time is so sad were banking on a hurt Bosh as our savior while Wade is playing so bad.

i honestly don't give a sh*t about anything at this point.. just win game 6.

Spo playing LBJ almost the whole game isn't helping either

are you people serious with the "Spo has no choice".

WADE AND BOSH ARE ON THIS SAME TEAM. They suck that much for LeBron to play the whole game? And the other 12 guys on this team too huh?

anyway, we ask him to GUARD EVERYONE, do everything, be clutch, and play the whole game.

Then he probably is tired mentally. After a loss the WHOLE blame from the media always goes on him. I don't know what it would be like to wake up and have a troll on television talk about me for 2 hours every day, only to have millions listen to him and some agree with him.