twix2500 wrote:I am not saying it will happen, I am saying its good chance that it may be there. Im mocking at the responses that its impossible, which was said about many of the trades pulled off. Atlanta Hawks organization has been shacky for a while because how the organization is put together. There business plan is fit for being just good but not great, one because of the lack of leadership when it comes to player personal managemetn. Josh Smith is naturally fit to be a role player. You guys are way over blowning Smith willingness to be a team player. He would fit perfect playing next to the big three, especially in the Spo system. Yes he likes to shoot threes, but thats not nearly enough to negate what he does bring to the table. If we are in position to trade veteran role players with championship leadership and some draft picks for Smith, it could be a possibility if Hawks are truely rebuilding their team. Smith is not a true core piece to build around, because like i said he more suited to be a role player. I think come trading deadline, the Hawks will be in a bad position to either damage their cap situation by over paying for Smith or start trading for pieces that can be valuable in the future. If they do decide to trade Smith, I think we could be a player in that situation.
1. Of course you're not saying "it will happen." If you were, we'd dismiss you even more summarily, because clearly you'd be, well, less in touch with reality than it appears you are. We assume you don't think you're psychic.
2. There isn't a good chance it may be there, and just because some trades have gone down in the league that people thought wouldn't, doesn't mean ANY trade can go down. ONCE AGAIN, the Heat DO NOT HAVE ASSETS. We traded nearly all of our picks for the foreseeable future in acquiring the Big 3. Unless you want to trade Wade, LeBron, or Bosh, it's not happening.
3. Let's see if this works for you. I'll present a scenario: Imagine you're ATL's front office. On your telephone you have Pat Riley on one line, and, let's say, PHI's front office on another. Which trade do you take: Shane Battier, Mike Miller, Joel Anthony, and our 1st from Philly (early 20's, likely), or something like Thaddeus Young, Dorell Wright, and a future 1st? If they're rebuilding, they're not trading for old vets, which is all we can offer besides Mario, which would make no sense for us. There are many better examples around the league, but Philly fits the bill of a team with young assets that might be interested in a Josh Smith to put them over the hump. Would ATL really do Riley the favor of taking his old vets, who have more value to us than them, over younger players that can be a part of their re-building core? Are they going to trade him for relative junk
in the same division, theoretically making the champs better, when they could send him somewhere out West for
better parts? Think
hard before you answer.
4. I guess we'll all just have to agree to disagree with you on Josh Smith being a "team player" who will accept a role. You're the only person who follows the NBA who could think that. He's always been a malcontent who is more concerned with his own personal gains than the team. If you don't see that, you're choosing not to.
5. How could a player who loves shooting his low-percentage 3-pointer be a "perfect fit" for the Big 3. Are you out of your mind? We need floor-spacers, not guys who think they're floor-spacers. His passing, shot-blocking, and rebounding would be great fits, but nothing much beyond that. And all of his drawbacks would negate the positives of those attributes.
6. Unless we're really struggling during the season, why would we trade away vets we value to bring in a malcontent bound to disrupt chemistry? Championship teams don't do that. It would be a desperation move. In fact, even if we did struggle during the season, Riley would have faith we'd come around by the playoffs again like we have several times before. Would we consider it over the summer if we didn't win the title this year and Battier, UD, Miller, and/or Joel all looked shot? Maybe, if Riley thought he could essentially date r*** Atlanta via trade.
.0000000000000000001% chance of going down.
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I applaud you for trying to stay ahead of the curve and seeing what might be out there for us to improve, but when Smith is traded, he'll likely go to a team in that Indiana, Philadelphia, Denver, etc. tier, not the best team in the league (at least not without them moving one of their 3 best players). In other words, teams looking to get over the hump into the top tier, who have better, younger role players to offer (see: upside, rebuilding teams like it), as well as more and better draft picks. I understand you take pride in the Walker trade, but that was very different. We had the assets to make that work. This time, we don't. No team has ever been dumb enough to trade a star in his prime for a few past-their-prime, specialist vets, and no picks. Any 1st-rounders we could even offer would be late picks. Not enticing.
I shouldn't have wasted all this time on this, but you really seem like you needed the help.
I know rights, what am i thinking. Lopsided trades never happen, teams never get taking advantage of the situation they are in. I mean thats like Pot head Lamar Odom, struggling coming back from an injury Caron Butler, and overpaid broken Brian Grant for Shaquille Oneal or Kwame Brown, a second rounder and a throw in for Pau Gasol. These same comments were made when I said dont be surprise if Lebron James decides to leave Cleveland he will come here. The same comments were said when i said dont be surprise that Antwan Walker or Lamar Odom becomes a miami heat. Look im not predicting on how we will obtain Josh Smith. Im saying if the right oppurtunity to trade for him reveals itself, dont be surprise that Riley makes that move.
