OK Spo I got it, "position-less" lineup issues.

[HEAT_ME_UP]

OK Spo I do understand what you are trying to do.. I know that Ray and rashard need heavy minutes so they can get incorporated to our system and be ready for the playoffs, but we need to go back to our identity which is defense, I don't really care much about scoring 110 points per game and letting the oponent score over 100 too. Last year we had the same issue with our lineups, Spo is not good at that, he is horrible when it comes to lineups. We are getting killed from the outside(3pts) and the offensive rebounds, giving up too many second opportunities, this small lineup will not handle 82 games, Guards have to be all over helping Bosh and Lebron on the post and leaving the outside shooters wide open, by the third quarter they look exhausted and done, of course am talking about when facing good teams.

My Solution is simple, we need to have different lineups for different teams.

Small Lineup starting Five:

Chalmers
Wade (SMH)
Lebron
Battier
Bosh

Subs Bench

Cole (please slow down-- Relax)
Ray (No Defense.)
Miller
Lewis
Haslem
This lineup is very small but it works fine against smaller team, and maybe in the playoffs like last year.



Big Men lineup

Wade
Miller (good rebounder)
Lebron
Battier
Bosh (playing well against others centers)

Bench Subs

Chalmers (Cole)
Ray
Lewis
UD
Joel (josh)

I think Spo should start giving some minutes 4-6 minutes to Joel and Josh, throw them in there to defend the middle, use those big bodies. We also have the assets to get a decent man, you can always trade Miller, UD, JJ, even Joel and get a decent big and young center, or drop Pittman and get K-mart which I don't understand why it hasn't happen.

I know our defense will be back to normal but with such small lineup it's almost impossible to survive and win against elite teams. Spo it's not stupid he knows what's going on, but he just want to prove his theory of "position-less" lineup, which worked on the finals but does not necessarily means it will work against every team. Players need to understand that they have a big X on their back, every team marked the heat on their calendar and will play us hard and exploit our weakness, not a single team fears the heat and beating the heat is an accomplishment.

[playboyj305]

Yea Spolestra isnt stupid. I completely trust Spolestra. First off, I would let it play out a bit more. Sometimes you have to allow the veteran players to see something is not working before they accept change. I truly belive its not the system its the players willing to give that effort and rotate out and contest shots. Secondly, THIS IS A LONG SEASON!!! You wont see that playoff defense all of the regular season. Only guy Im concerned with is Wade. He doesnt get back on defense and he pump fakes way too much.

[Tien]

Spo needs to be adapting his starting lineups to what he is up against.

Joel Anthony was an excellent pick and roll defender and would have gaurded against the likes of Blake Griffin a lot better. Joel Anthony has great great length.

I know positionless basketball is really good against small teams, but the big teams just rape Miami in the paint.

[HEAT_ME_UP]

Correct Wade should be the biggest concern, I really don't care much about the regular season, but it does not look good when you let the opponent score over 100 in 6 of the last 9 games. Plus I don't know how battier will keep up with all the beating he is getting by guarding the bigs.

[ndnow]

It's tough to work on everything all at once. It's a long season to develop the game and an identity. I trust by game 82, our O and D will be flowing well and give us a great shot at another title.

[HEAT_ME_UP]

I guess Spo read this board frequently.
The big lineup worked.... or maybe Wade was killing us. I really do not understand why Spo does not play Miller more often, this guy is a hustler and a good rebounder for being a sharp shooter specialist.
Ohhh Welll it's a lonnnggg season, so let's get used to the up's and down's. Great Win!

[Pimpwerx]

^Miller doesn't play that much because he's an injury magnet. I don't know if he's played in consecutive games yet this season.

Playing Joel is so pointless. He comes in for 6 minutes against the Clips scrubs, and is +12. Oh wow! Spo's a moron for not playing him more, right?

He comes in last night for 5 minutes and is -4. The games don't matter right now, and I'd rather get the real rotation more minutes together, to see if we can make the system work WITHOUT Joel.

In years past, I was very considerate of Joel. I didn't care as much about his empty statline, because we really had no better option. Even last year, he was our best non-Bosh big. This season, I don't even think that's the case. Jorts looks better out there. Joel can certainly swat shots, but that's all he can do, and he wrecks our spacing something fierce in the process.

I see no problem to doubt Spo on this. He's won doing things his way, so why should we expect him to start thinking traditionally all of a sudden? Spo is who he is, and his creativity is an asset. Give him the time to get his system working. If it's a fail, he'll fix it. PEACE.