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As a fan, it's purely delightful to watch Ray playing, while apparently Wade still has a lot of room for improvement. To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if Spoelstra increase Ray's minutes and reduce Wade's in the future. Just gimme more Ray Ray!

Not sure if serious. Wade is still a terrific defender compared to Ray. Ray seems better right now offensively but Wade plays an all around game

No more threads for you.

Good god. With the way people have been talking about Wade you'd think he was averaging like 14 ppg on 40% shooting.

bball34 wrote:As a fan, it's purely delightful to watch Ray playing, while apparently Wade still has a lot of room for improvement. To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if Spoelstra increase Ray's minutes and reduce Wade's in the future. Just gimme more Ray Ray!

Ray Ray has been efficient, clutch, and a reliable weapon in crunch time. On the other hand, Ray Ray can't defend...and he's also 37 years old haha. There's no way his minutes will increase over Wade's unless there's an injury.

okay, no wade block and the cavs could have won it tonight!!

BoshtimusPrime wrote:Good god. With the way people have been talking about Wade you'd think he was averaging like 14 ppg on 40% shooting.

This. It's insane.

fast-break wrote:Ray Ray has been efficient, clutch, and a reliable weapon in crunch time. On the other hand, Ray Ray can't defend...and he's also 37 years old haha. There's no way his minutes will increase over Wade's unless there's an injury.

You are exaggerating how bad Ray's D is. Don't let stereotypes warp your judgments. We all saw Ray play great D tonight. The truth is, if Wade can't get in shape soon, Ray's impact remains arguably bigger than Wade's.

bball34 wrote:

fast-break wrote:Ray Ray has been efficient, clutch, and a reliable weapon in crunch time. On the other hand, Ray Ray can't defend...and he's also 37 years old haha. There's no way his minutes will increase over Wade's unless there's an injury.

You are exaggerating how bad Ray's D is. Don't let stereotypes warp your judgments. We all saw Ray play great D tonight. The truth is, if Wade can't get in shape soon, Ray's impact remains arguably bigger than Wade's.

Hmm don't know about that. Ray had a much more efficient game than Wade, and I didn't key in much on his defense to really comment on tonight but its usually pretty bad. You have to admit even on a poor night from Wade, you STILL have the defend him, because at any minute he could go off. You don't really get that with Ray. I do love what he brings to the offense...as far as spacing and in the clutch, it really is unmatched. I'd say Ray Allen has a greater impact in CRUNCH-TIME than Wade but not in the game OVERALL.

ReturnofMVP3 wrote:okay, no wade block and the cavs could have won it tonight!!

LOL no way that Pargo shot had any chance, but yea it was a good block

Stupid thread is indeed stupid. they're on the same **** team, who cares who plays better in a certain week.

Chalm Down Bro wrote:

BoshtimusPrime wrote:Good god. With the way people have been talking about Wade you'd think he was averaging like 14 ppg on 40% shooting.

This. It's insane.

Seriously it is getting ridiculous, after every mediocre game by Wade you have posts/ thread exaggerating it. Every bad play from Wade you see stuff (in this board) like " OMG Wade wtf, you suck, father time!!!" "If we don't get the ball to Wade, we can win"... Very comical.

Agendas are blatantly obvious.

Shake. My. Head.

Wade is a force and a franchise player of our organization. He's one of our best defender. Never underestimate Wade.

And Allen is purely amazing offensively. Thanks to Wade's block and Allen's dagger. They make a really good combination.

Chosen01 wrote:

Chalm Down Bro wrote:

BoshtimusPrime wrote:Good god. With the way people have been talking about Wade you'd think he was averaging like 14 ppg on 40% shooting.

This. It's insane.

Seriously it is getting ridiculous, after every mediocre game by Wade you have posts/ thread exaggerating it. Every bad play from Wade you see stuff (in this board) like " OMG Wade wtf, you suck, father time!!!" "If we don't get the ball to Wade, we can win"... Very comical.

Agendas are blatantly obvious.

The bolded part is very true. It's even funnier when those people try to defend their agendas by claiming "You can't criticize Wade on this board, he's a saint because of what he did in '06" when I've never seen anybody use his '06 heroics to defend a poor game or play by D-Wade.

caliban wrote:

perfect.

Amazing we can enjoy both

caliban wrote:

Simply beautiful...

Guys common. Dumb thread but it isn't a far off idea.

Although Wade is averaging 18 - 4 - 4. We need more from him if we expect to go 97 games again.
He's shooting 16% from 3. 47%. Nearly 3 turnovers a game..Has been taking a lot of ill advised shots.

Meanwhile the old Ray allen who could just sit back and hit a couple three's a game and nothing more would be expected says nah...he is stepping up.

Shooting 51% and 52% from 3 as well.. only 1 turnover a game. 13ppg as a old 6th man. Already 2-3 game changing plays that normally Wade would of been making last year.

If i'm going by expectations. I gotta give Ray the nod. But knowing Wade, he will pick it up very soon and hit that 22+ ppg mark.