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Post#1 » by Heat fan06 » Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:46 pm

Off another board.

37.5% vs portland
40% vs phoenix (played with the flu i believe)
44.4% vs Minny
45.2% vs boston
45.5% vs orlando
47.1% vs denver
47.4% vs Charlotte
47.8% vs Denver
50% vs Indiana
50% vs New York

Interesting facts:

top 5 scorers sub 40% games:

James - 1
Durant - 7
Bryant - 13
Melo - 10
Harden - 17

Sub 50%:

James - 8
Durant - 17
Bryant - 30
Melo - 26
Harden - 31

Sub 20 point games:

James - 1
Durant - 5
Bryant - 10
Melo - 2
Harden - 9

Lebron is only shooting sub 50% vs 4 teams phoenix (18/37 - so close1), denver, orlando, and minnesota.
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Post#2 » by fast-break » Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:34 pm

Crazy. Lebron's consistency is unmatched.
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Post#3 » by narmerguy » Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:17 am

Yeah this is just ridiculous.
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Post#4 » by RexBoyWonder » Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:27 am

I heard Stan Van Gundy on the Ticket earlier, he Said he thinks LBJ is Better then Jordan on offense and on Defense and just better overall.

He was talking about skill, level of play..not about legacy and achievements where MJ is obviously #1 with 6 rings and all those MVP's.

Im not sure i'll go as far as SVG, To me MJ was more aggressive and had more of a killer insticnt and i still think he was a better scorer, But i do feel comfterbale saying LBJ is more well rounded, a better passer, makes his teamats better and might be just abit ahead on defense due to his size and abillty to defend 4 or 5 positions.

Overall i still give MJ the slight edge as of right now, but i do feel that If Lebron can sustain his outside shooting at the level he's shooting this season and also keep being aggressive in the playoffs and moneytime, he might get the edge over MJ in a season or two.

This is all about level of play, not about who is the greatest ever in the history books. i dont believe anyone will ever top what MJ was able accomplish in term of consistency, importance or success.
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Post#5 » by homecourtloss » Thu Feb 14, 2013 2:02 am

^Agree with all of this. One thing to add: Jordan played in a time when there was less of a emphasis on defense (85-90 at least and perhaps through 93), when teams played at a faster pace, with more space (players were smaller in bulk -- watch some of the games from the mid and late '80s and see how much thinner the players were with less bulk and muscle; James with all that space would cause absolute havoc) when teams shot a higher percentage, scored more points, and couldn't play zone. People talk a lot about all the hand checking allowed back then but all of that hand checking didn't lower FG%, pts scored, or pace at all. Look at the gaudy assist numbers during that time, for instance.
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Post#6 » by WiseOwlWins » Thu Feb 14, 2013 2:26 am

people need to stop comparing these 2 guys. different eras, different body types, different style of game, different positions.

lbj already lost twice in the finals, so that alone drops him a notch in legacy.

in terms of raw talent, jordan has the edge, especially being a guard in a time where centers actually existed. jordan was a freak athlete in terms of the size of his hands but overall lebron is more of a freak of nature when it comes to body type. he's like karl malone but with magic's movement.

these are 2 completely different players.
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Post#7 » by fast-break » Thu Feb 14, 2013 2:53 am

kevin2323 wrote:people need to stop comparing these 2 guys. different eras, different body types, different style of game, different positions.

lbj already lost twice in the finals, so that alone drops him a notch in legacy.

in terms of raw talent, jordan has the edge, especially being a guard in a time where centers actually existed. jordan was a freak athlete in terms of the size of his hands but overall lebron is more of a freak of nature when it comes to body type. he's like karl malone but with magic's movement.

these are 2 completely different players.

Well, Jordan is a perfect 6/6 in the Finals, but appearing in the Finals 3 times in your 10 year career is no easy task, it's impressive. Kobe has 5 rings, but no one talks about the times he lost, because that's not the way it works. In the end winning outweighs losing. Just look at how Lebron is praised in the media now (the same crowd who's sole job was to break him down) and all of the admiration amongst fans of other teams just after winning his 1st ring. The turnaround is crazy, and his legacy hasn't dropped, if anything, it's become solidified, because now hes "proven". There's no more CAN Lebron win a ring, the question now is "how many?" And who knows the answer to that, but it'll be fun to watch.

The Jordan/Lebron comparisons (albeit annoying) dont necessarily come from similarities in their game, they have two completely different styles of play. It's more to do with being two of the most polarizing wing players the league has ever seen. Both dominant in their era, while head and shoulders above everyone else. Other than that, Jordan is Jordan, and well Lebron is the first Lebron, those two made/make their own legacy when it's all said and done. Either way, Lebron is more than deserving of being in GOAT conversation but the spot he pans out? Only time will tell. There's lots of basketball left to be played.
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Post#8 » by GreenHat » Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:03 am

kevin2323 wrote:people need to stop comparing these 2 guys. different eras, different body types, different style of game, different positions.

lbj already lost twice in the finals, so that alone drops him a notch in legacy.

in terms of raw talent, jordan has the edge, especially being a guard in a time where centers actually existed. jordan was a freak athlete in terms of the size of his hands but overall lebron is more of a freak of nature when it comes to body type. he's like karl malone but with magic's movement.

these are 2 completely different players.


This is the dumbest way of evaluating players. First you are comparing teams and not individual players. Second by your logic getting all the way to the finals and losing is worse than losing earlier in the playoffs. What kind of backwards thinking is that?

You're saying Lebron's legacy would be better if he lost earlier in the playoffs those two years and Jordan's legacy would be worse if he had pulled some upsets and reached the finals earlier in his career. Does that seem logical to you? Winning more hurts your legacy and winning less enhances it by that rational.
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Post#9 » by fast-break » Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:33 am

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kevin2323 wrote:people need to stop comparing these 2 guys. different eras, different body types, different style of game, different positions.

lbj already lost twice in the finals, so that alone drops him a notch in legacy.

in terms of raw talent, jordan has the edge, especially being a guard in a time where centers actually existed. jordan was a freak athlete in terms of the size of his hands but overall lebron is more of a freak of nature when it comes to body type. he's like karl malone but with magic's movement.

these are 2 completely different players.


This is the dumbest way of evaluating players. First you are comparing teams and not individual players. Second by your logic getting all the way to the finals and losing is worse than losing earlier in the playoffs. What kind of backwards thinking is that?

You're saying Lebron's legacy would be better if he lost earlier in the playoffs those two years and Jordan's legacy would be worse if he had pulled some upsets and reached the finals earlier in his career. Does that seem logical to you? Winning more hurts your legacy and winning less enhances it by that rational.

Haha yep. Reading over his post again he kind of sounds...jealous? lol I think I may have wasted my time with such a long response. Oh well.
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Post#10 » by Heat_Fan_87 » Thu Feb 14, 2013 3:03 pm

wait, lebron only scored under 20 once this season? lol
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Post#11 » by SweetTouch » Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:38 pm

GreenHat wrote:
kevin2323 wrote:people need to stop comparing these 2 guys. different eras, different body types, different style of game, different positions.

lbj already lost twice in the finals, so that alone drops him a notch in legacy.

in terms of raw talent, jordan has the edge, especially being a guard in a time where centers actually existed. jordan was a freak athlete in terms of the size of his hands but overall lebron is more of a freak of nature when it comes to body type. he's like karl malone but with magic's movement.

these are 2 completely different players.


This is the dumbest way of evaluating players. First you are comparing teams and not individual players. Second by your logic getting all the way to the finals and losing is worse than losing earlier in the playoffs. What kind of backwards thinking is that?

You're saying Lebron's legacy would be better if he lost earlier in the playoffs those two years and Jordan's legacy would be worse if he had pulled some upsets and reached the finals earlier in his career. Does that seem logical to you? Winning more hurts your legacy and winning less enhances it by that rational.


LOL you should post more often

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Stop being so disrespectful.
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Post#12 » by Heat3 » Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:55 pm

kevin2323 wrote:people need to stop comparing these 2 guys. different eras, different body types, different style of game, different positions.

lbj already lost twice in the finals, so that alone drops him a notch in legacy.

in terms of raw talent, jordan has the edge, especially being a guard in a time where centers actually existed. jordan was a freak athlete in terms of the size of his hands but overall lebron is more of a freak of nature when it comes to body type. he's like karl malone but with magic's movement.

these are 2 completely different players.


This statement is silly imo. MJ lost in the conference finals multiple times. He lost lower rounds multiple times. If anything losing in the finals is better than losing in the conference finals but in this case it is a negative for Lebron and a positive for MJ. MJ lost in the first round a few times while Lebron has never lost in the first round.

MJ has 6 rings, those are his accomplishments. Lets not make up arbitrary ones like being 6/6 in the Finals is something to be matched. The Florida Marlins are 2/2 in World Series and have been absolute trash the rest of their 20 year existence not even making the playoffs. No one is going to hold up being perfect in the world series as some accomplishment lol.
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Post#13 » by TMIMITW » Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:28 pm

kevin2323 wrote:people need to stop comparing these 2 guys. different eras, different body types, different style of game, different positions.

lbj already lost twice in the finals, so that alone drops him a notch in legacy.

in terms of raw talent, jordan has the edge, especially being a guard in a time where centers actually existed. jordan was a freak athlete in terms of the size of his hands but overall lebron is more of a freak of nature when it comes to body type. he's like karl malone but with magic's movement.

these are 2 completely different players.



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Post#14 » by heat in italy » Fri Feb 15, 2013 6:34 am

No , Lebron it's not their yet. Unless he wins 6 rings , people will never give him the edge . If you judge by the numbers Jordan is more impressive, if you look to the WOW factor, Jordan was more plastic, then you add 6 rings, DPOY, scoring titles , etc ... Talking about streak, at the end of 88 season (maybe was 89 ) , Jordan got 10 triple doubles in 11 games ... Oh , and Bron plays with Wade and Bosh ...
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Post#15 » by Heat fan06 » Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:14 am

Down to 58% last night ha
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Post#16 » by abark » Sat Feb 16, 2013 11:42 pm

kevin2323 wrote:people need to stop comparing these 2 guys. different eras, different body types, different style of game, different positions.

lbj already lost twice in the finals, so that alone drops him a notch in legacy.

in terms of raw talent, jordan has the edge, especially being a guard in a time where centers actually existed. jordan was a freak athlete in terms of the size of his hands but overall lebron is more of a freak of nature when it comes to body type. he's like karl malone but with magic's movement.

these are 2 completely different playuers.

I get penalizing Bron for the loss to to Dallas. But there is no player in history that could have led that caves team over the Spurs. They shouldn't have ever made it and its a testament to Lebron that he made it through even a weak east conference, with that POS cast.

Would it be better if he didn't make it those first 2 years he failed, and instead lost first round. Its weird that the Jordan legacy (which needs no propping), is propped up by this whole never lost the finals deal. So, what? He lost in plenty of other rounds before he finally made it in 91. The only reason he's 6-0 in the finals was because he and his team were not good enough to make it there till the 90's.

I've seen this multiple times here. To me it takes a losers mentality to say that making it to the finals and losing is worse for player legacy than any other way you can not win a championship. Every year there's 1 winner and 29 losers, but I sure as hell. But according to this logic his legacy is tarnished, even though he made it to the finals at a much younger age than Jordan did.
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Post#17 » by imchillin » Sun Feb 17, 2013 12:38 am

kevin2323 wrote:people need to stop comparing these 2 guys. different eras, different body types, different style of game, different positions.

lbj already lost twice in the finals, so that alone drops him a notch in legacy.

in terms of raw talent, jordan has the edge, especially being a guard in a time where centers actually existed. jordan was a freak athlete in terms of the size of his hands but overall lebron is more of a freak of nature when it comes to body type. he's like karl malone but with magic's movement.

these are 2 completely different players.

no no no, MJ doesnt have raw talent above lebron. Lebron wins that hands down. What MJ had was he worked hard and played with a chip on his shoulder all the time. Lebron is the most talented we have ever seen. Thats why you could predict he was "chosen" , "King" since AU days and high school.
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Post#18 » by imchillin » Sun Feb 17, 2013 12:40 am

abark wrote:
kevin2323 wrote:people need to stop comparing these 2 guys. different eras, different body types, different style of game, different positions.

lbj already lost twice in the finals, so that alone drops him a notch in legacy.

in terms of raw talent, jordan has the edge, especially being a guard in a time where centers actually existed. jordan was a freak athlete in terms of the size of his hands but overall lebron is more of a freak of nature when it comes to body type. he's like karl malone but with magic's movement.

these are 2 completely different playuers.

I get penalizing Bron for the loss to to Dallas. But there is no player in history that could have led that caves team over the Spurs. They shouldn't have ever made it and its a testament to Lebron that he made it through even a weak east conference, with that POS cast.

Would it be better if he didn't make it those first 2 years he failed, and instead lost first round. Its weird that the Jordan legacy (which needs no propping), is propped up by this whole never lost the finals deal. So, what? He lost in plenty of other rounds before he finally made it in 91. The only reason he's 6-0 in the finals was because he and his team were not good enough to make it there till the 90's.

I've seen this multiple times here. To me it takes a losers mentality to say that making it to the finals and losing is worse for player legacy than any other way you can not win a championship. Every year there's 1 winner and 29 losers, but I sure as hell. But according to this logic his legacy is tarnished, even though he made it to the finals at a much younger age than Jordan did.


youre absolutely right, I don't get why people make stuff like that up. Lebron had no business beating the pistons in 07 and making it to the finals, no business. Thats not a legacy killer at all, Dallas was tough...he should have killed Dallas, so much regret.
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Post#19 » by Tien » Sun Feb 17, 2013 3:58 am

GreenHat wrote:
kevin2323 wrote:people need to stop comparing these 2 guys. different eras, different body types, different style of game, different positions.

lbj already lost twice in the finals, so that alone drops him a notch in legacy.

in terms of raw talent, jordan has the edge, especially being a guard in a time where centers actually existed. jordan was a freak athlete in terms of the size of his hands but overall lebron is more of a freak of nature when it comes to body type. he's like karl malone but with magic's movement.

these are 2 completely different players.


This is the dumbest way of evaluating players. First you are comparing teams and not individual players. Second by your logic getting all the way to the finals and losing is worse than losing earlier in the playoffs. What kind of backwards thinking is that?

You're saying Lebron's legacy would be better if he lost earlier in the playoffs those two years and Jordan's legacy would be worse if he had pulled some upsets and reached the finals earlier in his career. Does that seem logical to you? Winning more hurts your legacy and winning less enhances it by that rational.


You spent all that time and effort educating a guy that doesn't even know how to write and punctuate.

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Post#20 » by homecourtloss » Sun Feb 17, 2013 5:52 am

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