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Miami - Big Market?
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 1:01 am
by LuxHeat
I always keep wondering, was Miami really considered a Big Market before the Big 3 got together?
And what happens when all 3 of them leave, will stars keep forcing their way to the city and will the city be up there with LA and New York?
Re: Miami - Big Market?
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 1:16 am
by Chosen01
No way were they considered a big market. More like a medium market but a very desirable place to play due to the weather.
The big markets are : LA, NYK, CHI, and to a lesser degree- Dallas and Philly.
Re: Miami - Big Market?
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 1:22 am
by LuxHeat
Chosen01 wrote:No way were they considered a big market. More like a medium market but a very desirable place to play due to the weather.
The big markets are : LA, NYK, CHI, and to a lesser degree- Dallas and Philly.
definitely weather plays a big role! what about taxes in Florida? Do players consider that a lot?
Re: Miami - Big Market?
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 2:45 am
by GreenHat
Miami isn't a big market, just a desirable market.
Its not just the weather and the lifestyle, no state income taxes either
Re: Miami - Big Market?
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 2:52 am
by GoodSir
GreenHat wrote:Miami isn't a big market, just a desirable market.
Its not just the weather and the lifestyle, no state income taxes either
Re: Miami - Big Market?
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 3:17 am
by Pimpwerx
It neither a big nor a desireable market. What's desireable is the Heat organization, not necessarily the city. Dolphins, Marlins and Panthers can't sign big name guys with the draw of the location. Only the Heat can, and I'm sure that has more to do with the way it's run. PEACE.
Re: Miami - Big Market?
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 3:32 am
by GreenHat
Hockey has a much different demographic than Basketball. Who likes warm weather more, a black guy or a Canadian?
The Marlins were once a desirable location before they became a laughinstock. Still they have managed to close on several big time free agents despite being a national joke of a franchise.
The Dolphins are a poorly run organization but they are still a desirable location. There problem with free agents has been being outbid. They just signed the biggest free agent yesterday when they put up money.
Miami is a highly desirable market regardless of the organization (which helps). The Spurs are a great organization but they aren't attracting any big free agents. If you put the Heat organization in Wisconsin the desirability would crash dramatically.
Re: Miami - Big Market?
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 6:50 am
by Alex Trevelyan
According to the Nielson Company, South Florida's DMA, that's the media penetration of a given market, is approximately 8th in the nation, tied with Washington D.C., that includes Miami, Broward and Palm Beach Counties. That makes it one of the largest markets in terms of television saturation. But Miami is the U.S. gateway city to South America, giving it much more commercial appeal then one would assume if just looking at its demographic or media metrics.
Miami fills up on the weekends with newly affluent Brazilians and Argentinians that fly up for a few days. Miami is Latin America's city, many Floridians derisively view Miami as not part of Florida at all, but the northernmost city of South America. Miami is like Portland, Seattle or Vancouver, which act as gateway cities to Asia. The influence of the Miami market is immense in South America. Lots of Dolphins fans in South America for that reason, even though the Dolphins have been poorly managed for years.
Miami is definitely a desirable place to play and one need only look at the Dolphins for proof of this. They've not been relevant really, since the early to mid-eighties, yet free agents have flocked to Miami over the years. They signed Karlos Dansby and Brandon Marshall, two of the most desirable free agents in their class, because guys want to play for the Fins, even though they've been bad. Mike Wallace just signed with the Dolphins and he's widely considered the best free agent available. Even Jeffrey Loria, one of the worst owners in baseball has had no trouble attracting free agents even though it's a horribly mismanaged enterprise.
The use of the term "big market" usually just denotes whether or not the city is a desirable place to be in, coupled with it having a well managed franchise. Chicago has never been a desirable location for free agents, and that includes the Bulls, Bears, Cubs, Sox, etc.. Guys weren't lining up to play for the Clippers or Knicks and the Celtics with the 7th largest DMA in the Boston market spent 2 decades unsuccessfully trying to attract free agents to Beantown. Lets just put it this way, if other factors are comparably similar, like money and the chance to win, Miami will win far more free agent battles then it will lose.
Re: Miami - Big Market?
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 2:17 pm
by RexBoyWonder
^ Great post Alex.
Heat Organization, Pat Riley, Arison Family, Weather, Taxes, Fun city - all these things work in our favor.
We're not the biggest market but our marketing team does a great job playing the "El Heat" angel, and With Wade and LBJ we get a ton of global fans anyway. We're becoming big enough globally to be considerd a big market team. Not top 3 biggest, but big enough.
Re: Miami - Big Market?
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 4:37 pm
by CablexDeadpool
Don't Miami tax differently, like they don't tax income heavily, but they tax your property to hell.
Also, for an athlete, you are taxed by each state you play in..
damn a lot of taxes lol.
Re: Miami - Big Market?
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 6:40 pm
by Altered_Beast
Alex Trevelyan wrote:According to the Nielson Company, South Florida's DMA, that's the media penetration of a given market, is approximately 8th in the nation, tied with Washington D.C., that includes Miami, Broward and Palm Beach Counties. That makes it one of the largest markets in terms of television saturation. But Miami is the U.S. gateway city to South America, giving it much more commercial appeal then one would assume if just looking at its demographic or media metrics.
Miami fills up on the weekends with newly affluent Brazilians and Argentinians that fly up for a few days. Miami is Latin America's city, many Floridians derisively view Miami as not part of Florida at all, but the northernmost city of South America. Miami is like Portland, Seattle or Vancouver, which act as gateway cities to Asia. The influence of the Miami market is immense in South America. Lots of Dolphins fans in South America for that reason, even though the Dolphins have been poorly managed for years.
Miami is definitely a desirable place to play and one need only look at the Dolphins for proof of this. They've not been relevant really, since the early to mid-eighties, yet free agents have flocked to Miami over the years. They signed Karlos Dansby and Brandon Marshall, two of the most desirable free agents in their class, because guys want to play for the Fins, even though they've been bad. Mike Wallace just signed with the Dolphins and he's widely considered the best free agent available. Even Jeffrey Loria, one of the worst owners in baseball has had no trouble attracting free agents even though it's a horribly mismanaged enterprise.
The use of the term "big market" usually just denotes whether or not the city is a desirable place to be in, coupled with it having a well managed franchise. Chicago has never been a desirable location for free agents, and that includes the Bulls, Bears, Cubs, Sox, etc.. Guys weren't lining up to play for the Clippers or Knicks and the Celtics with the 7th largest DMA in the Boston market spent 2 decades unsuccessfully trying to attract free agents to Beantown. Lets just put it this way, if other factors are comparably similar, like money and the chance to win, Miami will win far more free agent battles then it will lose.
an alex trevelyan post!!!!!!!!!!! i thought you disappeared forever dude, you need to post on here more. one of the best posters of the 2010-2011 season
Re: Miami - Big Market?
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 6:45 pm
by vincent
Miami not the biggest market
but yes it's a big MARKET CITY BECAUSE IT's A GATE WAY TO Caribbean AND LATIN AMERICAN.....