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Look back to 2011 ECF Dwyane Wade... when refs called fouls

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Look back to 2011 ECF Dwyane Wade... when refs called fouls 

Post#1 » by Grumpy Heat Fan » Fri May 31, 2013 4:51 am

As of tonight's win vs the Pacers in game 5, it's 11 straight games in which Wade has not scored 20 points. Wade is not getting any respect from the referees. He's not healthy, sure, but he has never had such a long stretch of scoring drought in his career.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BEkYFM4S9c[/youtube]


Sigh. 38 points, Wade actually getting calls from the referees.
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Post#2 » by Vertical Limit » Fri May 31, 2013 5:12 am

He's got a WHOLLLEEEE lot of work to do in the offseason. He needs to go back to working on his balance like he did in the 2011-2012 offseason which improved his jump shot. He needs to work on his conditioning if it helps his knee get stronger and makes him more explosive. I don't care if Wade is reduced to being a 28 MPG player, I want 28 very consistent, very good minutes from him.

I am sure Riley is going to be on his ear telling him to get his **** together and not be at a bookstore signing crap. Next season is huge, it's the future of the franchise. If he doesn't demonstrate prime Wade, Lebron is going to be in Cleveland playing for Kyrie and Noel and a deep bench.
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Post#3 » by zogster » Fri May 31, 2013 5:13 am

Refs have nothing to do with that... Wade is quick, explosive and extremely aggressive in that video. He's not even 80% of what he was in that video now.
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Post#4 » by DefenseWins » Fri May 31, 2013 5:15 am

He needs a consistent jumper... can't rely on his athleticism anymore. Or the refs for that matter.
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Post#5 » by Sonny Carson » Fri May 31, 2013 5:18 am

Wade has two options in the future...

Transition to a "PG" and be a 17 point 7 assist guy ( I think he can do this)

Or

Become a Manu Ginobli 27 minute a game scoring punch off the bench.
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Post#6 » by Ratchet_Rio » Fri May 31, 2013 5:25 am

Sonny Carson wrote:Wade has two options in the future...

Transition to a "PG" and be a 17 point 7 assist guy ( I think he can do this)

Or

Become a Manu Ginobli 27 minute a game scoring punch off the bench.


Or in the summer, instead of going to fashion shows in Italy with Carmelo Anthony, maybe he'll be like some of his teammates who work out with legends, refine their game, and he'll come back with a jumper.

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Post#7 » by DWadeno3 » Fri May 31, 2013 5:36 am

More overreactions. His game will look much better once he's healthy and that's his only concern. People seem to have a memory loss, but he looked pretty good when he had finally found his groove after recovering from surgery. His offseason has to be dedicated to finding the right methods to deal with his knees.

These playoffs, I've said this over and over again, you can't expect anything. The team is not sharing any infos, but if you have to move your knee cap to avoid pain, that should tell you something.
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Post#8 » by KevKP » Fri May 31, 2013 5:56 am

you people are overreacting. Obvious Wade's injury plays a huge factor in his aggressiveness.
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Post#9 » by Vertical Limit » Fri May 31, 2013 6:01 am

And if Oden had good knees he would be a Top 5 Center. Wade is always injured now, will he ever be healthy again in the playoffs? Will he ever be a 24/5/5 with solid defense again?
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Post#10 » by Moggs24 » Fri May 31, 2013 6:15 am

I just think there is another element to it. He is not involved in the offense. On almost every play we run he is either a decoy or just an off ball option that gets waved off. Why does he never get to handle the ball in the pick n roll. Lebron is clearly the best player in the world but there were large parts of these playoffs where i have felt wade would have been a better option as the ball handler. Lebron can fall in love with isos and then the whole offense comes to a halt. Clearly Wade has not asserted himself for whatever the reason may be but I think even as is he could do more if given the chance.
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Post#11 » by Rasho_libre » Fri May 31, 2013 9:25 am

Moggs24 wrote:I just think there is another element to it. He is not involved in the offense. On almost every play we run he is either a decoy or just an off ball option that gets waved off. Why does he never get to handle the ball in the pick n roll. Lebron is clearly the best player in the world but there were large parts of these playoffs where i have felt wade would have been a better option as the ball handler. Lebron can fall in love with isos and then the whole offense comes to a halt. Clearly Wade has not asserted himself for whatever the reason may be but I think even as is he could do more if given the chance.

Have you watched wade this series. They want him on ball his mind is somewhere else. Like today's game, Bron sits in the fourth wade its your time to shine he comes with nothing. This is the weakest I have ever seen wade.
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Post#12 » by Chosen01 » Fri May 31, 2013 10:19 am

Yes, let's cut Wade some slack here guys. Wade has lost a step, declined whatever you wanna call it (in terms of comparing him to '09-'10), however he was still averaging 24ppg on 53% in the 2nd half of the season before his bone bruise.

That's enough evidence that he's still capable of being a superstar WHEN HEALTHY, dude just aint healthy. Need to accept it. There's was a WT that said Wade's bruise is even worse than his injury last playoffs, he has 3-4 bone bruises according to ESPN.

Chris Paul sat out a month with this SAME bone bruise, to give you an idea how severe it is and the stubbornness it takes to heal.

The only time Wade attacks is when he's on a fast break or a cut -pass from LeBron where he has an easy layup, the amount of times Wade would drive then kick it back to LeBron/Chalmers/Bosh/Allen, gives you a clue. Dude looks like he's at 60% of his capabilities.
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Post#13 » by truthiness » Fri May 31, 2013 10:43 am

I cut Wade all the slack in the world for playing injured and give him a ton of credit for it.

HOWEVER,

what pisses me off about his play is that he's turning down open J's. He gets the ball with a ton of room to shoot, waits for his defender to close in, gives a pump fake, and even if he gets the defender in the air, he doesn't initiate the contact to draw a foul. He takes 1-2 (slow) dribbles to the basket and then changes his mind and throws a bad/mediocre pass, losses the ball or puts up an awkward shot.

This creates a ton of problems for Miami's spacing. I want him to shoot it when he's open at mid-range. That's not the most efficient shot in basketball, but it's better than a turnover.


And if there's one thing he should have improved during the summers, it's a 3p shot.
Wade was the best player in the world in 2005 and 2006 and then about equal to Lebron till 2010-11.

Had Wade added a 3p shot to his game, it'd be so much easier for him to get shots, to score, and Miami's spacing would be phenomenal.

But since he hasn't done it for 10 years, I doubt he'll do it now.
Although that would probably add 1-2 years to his career and improve his effectiveness A LOT.

I would like him to take all the criticism from everybody and use it as motivation this summer to work on nothing else but his 3p shot, so he comes back next season shooting like he stole Kyle Korver's soul.
Get the ball behind the 3p line and have an open shot ? LET IT FLY !!!!
No pump fakes, no hesitation, nothing. Just LET IT FLY !!!
If Ray Allen can help Lebron on his FT's, maybe he can also help Wade on his 3's.
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Post#14 » by dshearn » Fri May 31, 2013 10:44 am

We are lucky Wade still adds value on the floor with this type of injury.

The big concern should be Wade's turnovers

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Post#15 » by OtW » Fri May 31, 2013 12:47 pm

There is definitely more going on with his knees than he is letting on.

He needs that Kobe German Surgery, in addition to a lot of work/rehab in the offseason.
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Post#16 » by WD » Fri May 31, 2013 1:52 pm

DefenseWins wrote:He needs a consistent jumper... can't rely on his athleticism anymore. Or the refs for that matter.

He'll adjust, but will WE? I AM NOT jumping off of his bandwagon
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Post#17 » by Slot Machine » Fri May 31, 2013 2:05 pm

Wade's jumper was pretty good this year when he was healthy. the problem is the injuries completely wreck his jumpshot too. I don't know if it's the elevation on it or what, but when Wade is injured, his jumpshot goes to hell. Same with his post game, his jump hooks don't go in with the same regularity as when he's not healthy. He's so much more skilled than he's showing, it sucks to watch him right now.

I just want Wade to be healthy next season. Get him the German Knee Treatment, that thing Rashard did, drop some weight, do whatever you need to do.
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Post#18 » by WD » Fri May 31, 2013 2:10 pm

Slot Machine wrote:Wade's jumper was pretty good this year when he was healthy. the problem is the injuries completely wreck his jumpshot too. I don't know if it's the elevation on it or what, but when Wade is injured, his jumpshot goes to hell. Same with his post game, his jump hooks don't go in with the same regularity as when he's not healthy. He's so much more skilled than he's showing, it sucks to watch him right now.

I just want Wade to be healthy next season. Get him the German Knee Treatment, that thing Rashard did, drop some weight, do whatever you need to do.

I agree with U - and we have guys that can provide what we need from him this year, we need to use them more/correctly.........
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Post#19 » by ReturnofMVP3 » Fri May 31, 2013 2:30 pm

Some of you are crazy. For one thing I do not want Wade playing once the playoffs are done till he is healthy. No way should he hit the gym and try to refine his game. When he is healthy we all know what he can do, look back a few months back when he was shooting 24 ppg and insane shooting. The medical staff need to be on the ball to and be watching to see ways to help him recover/prevent these sort of injuries. The man will be fine but he needs to rest and then get back into it from there.
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Post#20 » by Moggs24 » Fri May 31, 2013 2:30 pm

truthiness wrote:I cut Wade all the slack in the world for playing injured and give him a ton of credit for it.

HOWEVER,

what pisses me off about his play is that he's turning down open J's. He gets the ball with a ton of room to shoot, waits for his defender to close in, gives a pump fake, and even if he gets the defender in the air, he doesn't initiate the contact to draw a foul. He takes 1-2 (slow) dribbles to the basket and then changes his mind and throws a bad/mediocre pass, losses the ball or puts up an awkward shot.

This creates a ton of problems for Miami's spacing. I want him to shoot it when he's open at mid-range. That's not the most efficient shot in basketball, but it's better than a turnover.


And if there's one thing he should have improved during the summers, it's a 3p shot.
Wade was the best player in the world in 2005 and 2006 and then about equal to Lebron till 2010-11.

Had Wade added a 3p shot to his game, it'd be so much easier for him to get shots, to score, and Miami's spacing would be phenomenal.

But since he hasn't done it for 10 years, I doubt he'll do it now.
Although that would probably add 1-2 years to his career and improve his effectiveness A LOT.

I would like him to take all the criticism from everybody and use it as motivation this summer to work on nothing else but his 3p shot, so he comes back next season shooting like he stole Kyle Korver's soul.
Get the ball behind the 3p line and have an open shot ? LET IT FLY !!!!
No pump fakes, no hesitation, nothing. Just LET IT FLY !!!
If Ray Allen can help Lebron on his FT's, maybe he can also help Wade on his 3's.


You have some good points. I have all the faith in the world in Wade but my biggest problem with him right now is he has completely lost his confidence. He constantly passes up open shots, pump fakes way too much. I would rather see him assert himself with confidence and miss shots then constantly pass up shots. It absolutely hurts our spacing.

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