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LBJ and future 

Post#1 » by Cane4Ship » Wed Jul 3, 2013 8:51 pm

Apologies if this has already been discussed but this article hints at LBJ going to the Lakers using his ETO in 2014 (Although the article is specific to Dwight.)

I find it irritating that guys (like Berger) have this sort of hubris for the Lakers. As if LeBron is going to get up and leave what he has already started in Miami to go to the LA Lakers?


Seriously, other than championship history of the Lakers (which no one can deny) at this point in time, what makes the Lakers a better organization than the Heat?

I'd much prefer to be under the guidance of Pat Riley over Mitch Kupchak, coached by Erik Spoelstra than Mike D'Antoni, and play next to Wade than Kobe (at this point in their respective careers)


This sort of bias towards the Lakers needs to be cut out in terms of FA attraction for a man as successful as James.


Wanted to see Heat fan's opinions, if you were LBJ what would you do? (I feel this will be a unanimous answer)


Article: http://www.cbssports.com/nba/story/2261 ... e-a-legend
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Post#2 » by DeeDub » Wed Jul 3, 2013 9:14 pm

Cane4Ship wrote:Apologies if this has already been discussed but this article hints at LBJ going to the Lakers using his ETO in 2014 (Although the article is specific to Dwight.)

I find it irritating that guys (like Berger) have this sort of hubris for the Lakers. As if LeBron is going to get up and leave what he has already started in Miami to go to the LA Lakers?


Seriously, other than championship history of the Lakers (which no one can deny) at this point in time, what makes the Lakers a better organization than the Heat?

I'd much prefer to be under the guidance of Pat Riley over Mitch Kupchak, coached by Erik Spoelstra than Mike D'Antoni, and play next to Wade than Kobe (at this point in their respective careers)


This sort of bias towards the Lakers needs to be cut out in terms of FA attraction for a man as successful as James.


Wanted to see Heat fan's opinions, if you were LBJ what would you do? (I feel this will be a unanimous answer)


Article: http://www.cbssports.com/nba/story/2261 ... e-a-legend


I see virtually no chance of LeBron going to the Lakers. Even the team's history is probably a negative selling point -- why go to a team whose winning history you have no part of and which was created by a bunch of great players who came before you when you are already establishing a championship history for your current team. Lakers fans are the most "entitled" in the league -- anything short of a title is an unsuccessful season. I think part of Dwight's reluctance to return to LA is related to the fans' failure to embrace him and quickness to blame him for the team's struggles last year. For 10 years, Laker fans have been LeBron haters in their protectiveness of Kobe and his legacy relative to LeBron's. And I think there has always been at least a little bad blood between LeBron and Kobe. Even putting aside the fact that they do not complement each other on the court, I don't see why LeBron would be especially excited to play with Kobe.

Although I am a little more concerned about the possibility he goes back to Cleveland, I don't think that will happen either. First, until I hear that LeBron and Dan Gilbert have kissed and made up, I can't see LeBron going back to play for Gilbert. Under the CBA, LeBron will be underpaid wherever he goes and will be making tens of millions of dollars for the owner of whatever team he plays for. I can't see him taking less money to make Dan Gilbert tens of millions of dollars than get paid more to play for Micky Arison. The only way I see him going back to Cleveland is if he does so on the condition that Gilbert publicly apologize and sells the team (which would be kinda funny to see because it would make Gilbert the villain if he refused to and thereby cost them a chance at getting LeBron back). Second, LeBron knows how hard it is to develop championship chemistry and will know that there are no guarantees of ever getting that in Cleveland no matter how much young talent they can put around him.

As long as Micky is willing to pay the luxury tax and surround LeBron with a championship-level team, I think he stays.
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Post#3 » by Heat_Fan_87 » Wed Jul 3, 2013 9:36 pm

2 things;

We win next season and lebron is going no where.

It will hurt his legacy to keep jumping to different teams.

I have 100% confidence riley will take care of everything. In riley we trust.
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Post#4 » by shanedude » Wed Jul 3, 2013 9:42 pm

Yeah I'm not worried about Bron leaving at all. Our FO has become one of the best in the league.
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Post#5 » by weouthere » Wed Jul 3, 2013 10:09 pm

LeBron will never go tot the Lakers . Never.
I also knew he wouldn't go to the Bulls when it was being advertised. He doesn't like their players, tough to see him playing with Noah.

Certain things just don't make sense. It's either he resigns here or tries to win Cleveland a championship and he's likely resigning here. Pat Riley is that good
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Post#6 » by Sonny Carson » Wed Jul 3, 2013 10:10 pm

Heat_Fan_87 wrote:2 things;

We win next season and lebron is going no where.

It will hurt his legacy to keep jumping to different teams.

I have 100% confidence riley will take care of everything. In riley we trust.


Honestly..

I think LeBron stays in Miami for one reason.

He wants to do something MJ/Kobe have never done.

Win 4+ in a row. I think if we won in year 1....and then won next year....he might leave..

But since that loss.....I dont think he opts out or reups. He goes for 4 or 5 in a row. In fact...if he was lose (which certainly hope doesnt happen) I think he still stays..because he wants to get Miami at least 3 championships in his time here.

I do think he goes back to Cleveland eventually :( .

Whether thats in 2015 or at the end of his career he goes back.

A trusted member on another site said...The people in LeBron's circle (He knows a guy that knows a guy so take it FWIW) He does want his kids to go to the same HS he went too. And he does kind of want to "right the ship" before his playing days are completely done. But I think he's got some unfinished business in Miami.
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Post#7 » by S Curry » Wed Jul 3, 2013 10:34 pm

Dream scenario for me:

Lebron, Wade and Bosh all opt out at the end of this season after another title, and then sign again for less money :D
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Post#8 » by Pure_Basketball » Wed Jul 3, 2013 10:47 pm

Why do people think Lebron will leave for the Lakers, everything they can offer we can offer the same thing but better. Lakers can only offer the chance to play with one other star, and that's assuming that Dwight stays, what if he leaves? Then you have a washed up Kobe who doesn't like to pass, and doesn't fit with Lebron anyway.

Miami still offers the chance to play with 2 stars, and his build his legacy upon what he's done the last couple years, he could be going for a 4peat by the time his next contract rolls around and he's really going to leave the Heat to team up with Dwight in LA? The media is so stupid lol.

There's a 10% chance he leaves, and that's to go back to Cleveland, there's 0% chance he goes to LA, and I'd lose almost all respect for him if he went to LA.
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Post#9 » by Tony15 » Wed Jul 3, 2013 10:57 pm

If LeBron were to leave for the Lakers, he will be looked at differently and rightfully so.

If LeBron were to leave for the Cavs, he wins no more championships.

Reality is that LBJ isn't touching the Lakers. We have Pat Riley and I trust any decision he makes at this point. As heat_fan_87 said, I Riley we Trust.
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Post#10 » by Sgt P » Thu Jul 4, 2013 12:01 am

Slow news day article, :lol: :lol: , I am an old but there is this saying ( clean version ).
You don't leave foSho ###, for mo ###, because you get No ###.


According to most, LA is only place one can play ball. Well Miami held it down for 2 str8t summers. 3 in 8. Solid.
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Post#11 » by EscapoTHB » Thu Jul 4, 2013 1:04 am

Lebron only left Cleveland because he wanted to win championships.

Back to back champions, and three straight finals appearences. If we win again next year, I think it's very likely he'll retire with the Heat. Why would he leave, y'know? The Heat are the kind of organization players don't usually want to leave. The family atmosphere, and the competency with which everything is run, is in a class only a team like the Spurs matches. I would be suprised to see Lebron leave that. Particularly when Riley has given him everything he promised him.

Who likes to move all of the time? He has young kids and his family is moved in down here. I doubt he'll want to move them again so soon. It seems like he really enjoys South Florida. I mean most people do. He gets to bike to work. Win titles. MVPs. He plays with his best friend in the NBA. He has great teammates who are all proven champions. He has a coach that has innovated to build around him in ways that Mike Brown never.

Regardless. I agree with Micky Arison, that the best thing this season would be if the local media just didn't bring it up. We should just enjoy this next season and focus on trying to three peat. Let the national media do the hysterics.

To be honest, even if Lebron left--dude has had what will be considered his best most iconic years in a Heat uniform, and been integral in bringing the team two titles and three finals trips. Hard to ask for much more from a player.

I do agree that if he moves again he risks becoming like Shaq, where he never really establishes ties with a team, and maybe toward the end of his career has to play in bizarre places for meh money. I guarantee if he stays with the Heat, Riley and Arison will give him a role in the organization after he retires. Might be a good way for him to segue into coaching after he's done.

A lot hinges on Wade I guess. If Wade can either add a mid-range jumper, or fix his knees and get back to being a top 5 player--then I just can't imagine a scenario where another team would look more attractive to lebron. If he stays with the Heat he could have a Tim Duncan like career where when he's in his late 30s he could still be contending. Pat Riley knows how to build champions.
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Post#12 » by Duane » Thu Jul 4, 2013 3:09 am

LeBron won't leave Miami because Riley won't let him. Nuff said.
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Post#13 » by Mohanad » Thu Jul 4, 2013 4:17 am

You're really going to see Riley's muscle after the 2014 off season. Not exactly going out on a limb, but "the decision" will come down to Miami or back to Cleveland. Not going to bother reading anything else.. waste of time.
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Post#14 » by Run DLC » Thu Jul 4, 2013 4:32 am

I think LeBron is smart enough to know that he'd play under Kobe's shadow if he choose to play for the Lakers. Here in Miami, he has a chance to go down as the greatest Heat player ever even though Wade will always be the fans favorite. He can build his own legacy for the Heat franchise similarly the way Jordan did for the Bulls and Duncan for the Spurs. LeBron only played under Wade's shadow for one year. I don't see why he'd want to play under the shadow of a guy that he's trying to surpass and hopefully will if he can win two-three more titles.
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Post#15 » by Run DLC » Thu Jul 4, 2013 4:39 am

Kobe plans on playing for 3 more years. Why should LeBron help him wins more titles? LeBron would still be at a disadvantage if he help Kobe to win two more titles even though he'd have four titles himself.
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Post#16 » by DefenseWins » Thu Jul 4, 2013 5:05 am

gah why must this be brought up every week!? it's not 2014 yet!

BUT... I find it hard to believe he'd join the Lakers. His legacy would take a hit, being in Kobe's house basically. Also if he did team up with Kobe for like 2 years (WHO IS OLDER THAN WADE, and has MORE MILEAGE), he would get killed by the media even more. Remember when he did team up with Wade in Miami, Wade's house? People kept saying how he couldn't win, he had to join a champion, blah blah. Also there is a difference between playing in Kobe's shadow and Wade's shadow. LeBron is already the face of the Heat to people OUTSIDE of South Florida. No matter what, that Lakers team is Kobe's team, it'd never be LeBron's team. Also that whole All-Star game debacle, Kobe was trying so hard against LeBron, there is clearly competition between those two, but they still have respect for each other. BUT, I think LeBron would rather match Kobe's rings than to help him get more (and for Kobe to get the same amount as MJ...).

I don't get why he would go back to Cleveland either, the people treated him like crap when he left, and the owner trash talked him when he left. They didn't say HEY THANKS LEBRON FOR PUTTING CLEVELAND ON THE MAP!

If we 3 peat, I think LeBron stays. If we don't? I am not sure, it depends on Wade and what he does honestly, AND his health. Depends the Big 3 take a pay cut too. Man next year is going to be CRAZY, our bench won't be the same either... we are either rebuilding next year or going for a 4peat <_<

Lakers would have the cap space for LeBron in 2014 sure, but if Kobe is still there, they can't build a team with a great bench like we do right now. Kobe's contract is huge.
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Post#17 » by Voice_of_Reason » Thu Jul 4, 2013 7:10 am

I think he will stay, but I won't be upset if he leaves. We are back to back championships, and have been in 3 consecutive finals. This has been a crazy run, and I've enjoyed every minute of it.

Winning 3 straight titles would be truly amazing, and I believe if that occurs all 3 could opt out and take new contracts of 5 years starting at a lower salary. I think that will only occur if we win 3 straight, and Riley sells them on winning 4 straight, which hasn't been done since the early 60 Celtics, when the league was going through rapid expansion.
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Post#18 » by Mugiwara » Thu Jul 4, 2013 8:46 am

Lakers won't even have a chance of meeting with Bron, let alone sign him.

My only fear is his family. Savannah and the kids are happy in MIA?

Don't know but that will weigh a lot on his Decision.
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Post#19 » by DWadeno3 » Thu Jul 4, 2013 1:16 pm

I don't care about something that's not relevant in the present and that's out of my control. If he leaves, thanks for helping us win two or possibly thee championships. He's a great player, but players come and go. The only person I'm worried about leaving/retiring is Pay Riley and I'm sure we have some competent guys within the organization to follow his footsteps.

Look at OKC/formerly Seattle. They blew it up but through good drafting and free agency returned to being a contender. It's no secret why some organizations are very successful while others are garbage despite plenty of great opportunities.
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Post#20 » by DWadeno3 » Thu Jul 4, 2013 1:17 pm

I don't care about something that's not relevant in the present and that's out of my control. If he leaves, thanks for helping us win two or possibly thee championships. He's a great player, but players come and go. The only person I'm worried about leaving/retiring is Pay Riley and I'm sure we have some competent guys within the organization to follow his footsteps.

Look at OKC/formerly Seattle. They blew it up but through good drafting and free agency returned to being a contender. It's no secret why some organizations are very successful while others are garbage despite plenty of great opportunities.
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