Is Michael Beasley the future of the franchise?

BayInferno · Post #1 » by **BayInferno** » Tue Dec 24, 2013 7:41 pm

Not a Heat fan, but I came here to ask you guys that. He's turned his career around and still has the potential to be a 20 PPG, franchise guy (IMO). What do you guys think?

Altered_Beast · Post #2 » by **Altered_Beast** » Tue Dec 24, 2013 7:47 pm

still too soon IMO. i think he can develop better than stephenson has in indy. he has better physical tools and is kind of a bonehead like lance. remember hes playing with HOF's and some really good vets on this team as well as a coach that is patient with him. hes really in a ideal situation here but i do think that if he stays along this path he can become a big part of the heats future plans (as originally intended)

RexBoyWonder · Post #3 » by **RexBoyWonder** » Tue Dec 24, 2013 7:58 pm

Michael will never be our "franchise player", that's not who he is, not in character or skillset. As much as I like him I know this - if he's your franchise guy - you're fu@ked.

But with that said, IF everything goes perfect for him going forward, he can be a solid 2nd/3rd option on offense And the 3rd/4th overall best player on a championship team. He'll always need strong leaders to play next to him, and he'll always have his limitations as an undersized big man, But if he continues to work hard and keep his head right he could be an important piece as long as you don't expect him to carry you or be a leader.

Zasterror · Post #4 » by **Zasterror** » Tue Dec 24, 2013 8:42 pm

Legit ceiling for Beasley would be a reliable 2nd option on this team.

Post #5 » by **DefenseWins** » Tue Dec 24, 2013 9:08 pm

This dude still has a lot of learning to do both on and off the court. You can still see he is an emotional guy, which isn't a bad thing but having your emotions get the best of you in a game of basketball isn't a good thing.

We will see how this year pans out and his role in the playoffs.

Seeing as LBJ has him under his wing and he's tight with Wade, he might turn into the 4th option next year if the Big 3 stay intact and Beas is with us again.

But our FUTURE? He is just 4 years younger than LBJ, it's not like he was drafted last year and is 18 or something. I think for his sake he should not be the number 1 option, ever. He can't seem to take the pressure. I can see LBJ trusts him though. Like others have said, I think his ceiling is the 2nd option if he stays and continues under LBJ's guidance.

narmerguy · Post #6 » by **narmerguy** » Tue Dec 24, 2013 10:06 pm

Part of the whole reason for his success is that he can accept that he simply isn't the future of the franchise. No one has great expectations for him, we just want him to play hard in his minutes, be aggressive, try to stretch the defense some too, and throw in some defense while you're at it.

twix2500 · Post #7 » by **twix2500** » Tue Dec 24, 2013 11:28 pm

Funny that namerguy thinks his success is having less expectations of himself LOL. Just to let you guys know that he is developing at a rapid pace with his new focus. He has already surpassed himself since he been in the league. He has never played better.

Vertical Limit · Post #8 » by **Vertical Limit** » Tue Dec 24, 2013 11:28 pm

At best, 6th Man of the Year candidate is in his future. But right now he's not the 6th man, he's more like the 8th man, behind Ray and Chris Anderson.

He's definitely turned his career around and I think this time, he will stick to the team for the next 3-4 years. Miami is what he needs, he's still got that child personality and Lebron, Wade, Spoelstra, Mourning and Haslem pretty much puts him in check to keep his head on straight.

RJM · Post #9 » by **RJM** » Wed Dec 25, 2013 2:58 am

In a sense, he (assuming he makes it with us and stays beyond this season), Cole and anyone else we're able to snag this summer in the draft would be considered the future for this franchise. Is he a cornerstone? I don't think so. As the above posters said, he'd be a solid second option if he continues to develop and matures even more.

Sonny Carson · Post #10 » by **Sonny Carson** » Wed Dec 25, 2013 3:27 am

Not sure yet.

But his 23/9 per 36 mins and 21 Per certainly give me hope.

aquaadverse · Post #11 » by **aquaadverse** » Wed Dec 25, 2013 4:01 am

twix2500 wrote:Funny that namerguy thinks his success is having less expectations of himself LOL. Just to let you guys know that he is developing at a rapid pace with his new focus. He has already surpassed himself since he been in the league. He has never played better.

Yeah, but it's a small sample size in a role of decreased responsibilities as a role player instead of Franchise cornerstone. There are less expectations in the sense that less is expected of him. He was told that he needs to rebound, play defense and not play ISO ball. And is showing promise doing it. He's surrounded by players carrying the load he was expected to shoulder earlier in his career.

Put Beasley in Wade's role and he'd likely crater over a season at this point.

twix2500 · Post #12 » by **twix2500** » Wed Dec 25, 2013 6:44 am

aquaadverse wrote:
twix2500 wrote:Funny that namerguy thinks his success is having less expectations of himself LOL. Just to let you guys know that he is developing at a rapid pace with his new focus. He has already surpassed himself since he been in the league. He has never played better.

Yeah, but it's a small sample size in a role of decreased responsibilities as a role player instead of Franchise cornerstone. There are less expectations in the sense that less is expected of him. He was told that he needs to rebound, play defense and not play ISO ball. And is showing promise doing it. He's surrounded by players carrying the load he was expected to shoulder earlier in his career.

Put Beasley in Wade's role and he'd likely crater over a season at this point.

He has always been asked to rebound, but your not really paying attention to what they expect as him as a scorer.

DWadeno3 · Post #13 » by **DWadeno3** » Wed Dec 25, 2013 11:10 am

People seem to forget that he was with us for two years when he was supposed to be the 2nd option. He had the guidance of the organization, Wade, Haslem and other role model veterans. LeBron, Ray and the other guys that are here can't do anything differently than our teams from 08-10 have done. Just because he's playing well in a limited role doesn't mean he's suddenly become capable of filling a bigger one. Thus, I'll always consider him best suited for the 6th man role. He can be on the bench and look at the game first and then can come in with a lot of energy and attack the starters that are fatigued or the other team's bench guys.

We won't know who our future will be until the Big Three era is nearing its end and we've either drafted some talent or signed other guys and that's still a few years away the way I see it.

BIRDMAN BIRDMAN · Post #14 » by **BIRDMAN BIRDMAN** » Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:38 pm

Is Michael Beasley the what?!?

Listen, I've followed Beas since his rookie year. Brightest days, darkest days. There's still a lot of work for him to focus on - though he's on the right track so far. The most impressive moment to me so far was that last defensive possession in the Hawks game. That might not mean something to most, but as a follower of him, that was a great moment just as pretty as his high-scoring games. It wasn't exactly perfect lockdown D, but being on the floor first and foremost was enough for me to be impressed, just shows how much he's worked on since his last stay here. I love his dedication to playing D. We all know the offensive talent is there. Please, Beas. Keep it up!

I love him as a microwave scorer off the bench ala Jamal Crawford and I think that's what he can best achieve. Anything else more than that would be gravyyyy

Heat_Fan_87 · Post #15 » by **Heat_Fan_87** » Wed Dec 25, 2013 2:00 pm

No. LMAO.

derb2k2 · Post #16 » by **derb2k2** » Wed Dec 25, 2013 6:26 pm

I doubt he's the future of this franchise, or any other. As most have mentioned, he'd be a solid #2 or #3 all-star at most. That star-player potential just isn't there imo.

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twix2500 · Post #17 » by **twix2500** » Wed Dec 25, 2013 10:46 pm

derb2k2 wrote:I doubt he's the future of this franchise, or any other. As most have mentioned, he'd be a solid #2 or #3 all-star at most. That star-player potential just isn't there imo.

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It depends on how you define franchise. I label Bosh, Wade and James as franchise players. I think Beasley does have the potential to be as good as Bosh.

derb2k2 · Post #18 » by **derb2k2** » Thu Dec 26, 2013 1:20 am

twix2500 wrote:
derb2k2 wrote:I doubt he's the future of this franchise, or any other. As most have mentioned, he'd be a solid #2 or #3 all-star at most. That star-player potential just isn't there imo.

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It depends on how you define franchise. I label Bosh, Wade and James as franchise players. I think Beasley does have the potential to be as good as Bosh.

I think he can be better than current Bosh but BZ just does not have that leadership gene and he won't develop one in the near future. Hell, he might be having issues with the team right now.

Maroko · Post #19 » by **Maroko** » Thu Dec 26, 2013 1:42 am

As much as i love the guy, i just hope he will never be the franchise player.

He is accepting his role because he got LeBron and Wade otherwise it will be the same mess as he did with the Wolves and the Suns.

He is very talented offensively and he is making some huge progress in defense (well he started from the bottom too lol) but his attitude is still very immature.

As he said, he doesnt have to be the go to guy because he is playing with the BIG 3 so he got way less pressure on his shoulders.

THEASSOCIATION · Post #20 » by **THEASSOCIATION** » Thu Dec 26, 2013 2:25 am

If he can keep his head on straight, I definitely think he can be a solid third option on this team. Albeit it was on a garbage team the man has put up 19 ppg on good efficiency before. He has the talent, the athleticism, but does he has the desire to truly want to commit to carrying himself as a top tier player in the league. Beasley is playing for his NBA career right now let alone a big contract. As long as he continues to mature with Wade and LeBron around I see no reason he can't be a legit #3 with this team. Hopefully he continues to play for peanut contracts past this year until the Heat obtain his bird rights. Knuckleheads can turn it around it's up to how much they want it.