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Spo & 2014 Issues

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:11 am
by GameTime_3
Instead of having 5 threads about this topic, I thought it would be ideal to post here. So far this season, we've seen our Ups and Downs. We are reminded at every corner that were pacing our self's and not to worry. Yes we have won 2 titles! But let’s not forget what we had to do to get there and how close we were to being 0-3 in the BIG 3 era. But let’s forget about the last 2 years. Because well! This is a new year and new changes are here. So why are we looking at last year to answer everything about this year.

1. Small Ball! Yes it won us a series vs. OKC but is it really working year in and year out? Last year vs. Pacers we almost lost trying to play Battier on West. We almost lost to Bulls till we played UD. But since it worked on OKC and SAS, all we have seen is small ball. But to this season! Yes the team is pacing themselves! I would agree. But that's another reason why it’s so DUMB! We aren't playing as hard! Were not fighting for every inch! You know why? Because it’s the regular season! It’s the same thing that happened last 2 years during regular season but this is the first year is the first were we went small from day 1! So I ask why run a season that demands so much of a team that clearly isn't looking to play at 1000%? It’s being short sided! Small Ball works vs. some but it isn't the answer to all. Shane Battier is great but you can't expect a 6"8 210 SF to defend PF's every day! It’s the reason why were almost dead last in rebounding! It’s the reason why, team can get wide open shots on us. You move the ball and were not chasing it! So once again, I ask anyone who supports Spo and sees this system as working right now to please tell me why? Explain to me why Small Ball is the right system for this team right now? It may work in the playoffs (when we’re giving 1000%) and versus some teams (OKC, SAS, NY) but why are we trying it now? But this topic leads me to my next point...

2. Rotation! What are we doing with this? Every week, were looking down the line and Spo is trying to force feed players into the rotation. At no point in NBA history has Lewis/UD front-line being a good idea. At no point is it ok to insert Roger Mason when he doesn't understand the system. At no point is it ok to bench the hot hand for well, whatever player was supposed to come in during that time of the rotation. This "System' is very difficult to master and yet every week your taking out someone for some you feel "Deserves" to be back in the rotation. I understand that maybe the "System" is draining and that's why you’re doing this but doesn't that say something about the "System". My god Spo! Does this team a favor and figure out the best 9 and take out the bias and do what’s best for THIS TEAM and not what you feel is best for 2009-2014. Who care what UD has done for us! UD wants Rings more than minutes! Lewis is happy collecting a check! So to those that like what Spo is doing, please explain to me, why this rotation is working?

3. Beasley! Well this is an easy one! Can someone explain to me with a logical response, why Lewis is playing ahead of Beasley? Look at the numbers and there in Beasley's favor in a landslide. You say D? Well Lewis isn't winning any awards. You say Rebounds? UD isn't grabbing any? You say Size? Well All 3 are about the same size? But fine! You found a single thing UD/Lewis does better than Beasley but does that make up for the fact that neither can hold a candle to Beasley on offense? We need playmakers that relieve LeBron! So why are we benching them for those that can't create or do anything? Today we gave up million points and we have up 48 rebounds! Instead of looking for issues in Beasley, why can't we work with what he can give us? Why after a few months of solid basketball where he hit game winners, played one on one D to win games, did he get benched for a player like Lewis? Clearly there is more to this story but stats don't lie, the only reason Beasley is sitting is because of Spo.

4. Lewis! Can someone explain to me what Lewis has done to deserve these minutes? 43% shooting? Beasley at 50%? Could it be rebounding? 1.9rpg in 18mpg? Beasley at 3.8 in 16mpg? Could it be scoring? 4.8 for Lewis? 9.4 for Beasley? Ok maybe its ball movement! 1 assists for Lewis and .6 for Beasley! so one less pass! I got it! It must be floor spacing! Lewis is known as a shooter! Lewis is 35% this year from down town! Beasley? 46%! So I ask the question? Why is Lewis ahead of Beasley? If we’re talking about how we care less and want to get through the regular season? Why wouldn't we use a guy that takes some pressure off LeBron and helps us during the regular season? Hmm......I'll wait for someone response on this as I'm sure its "Beasley's a knucklehead", "Beasley doesn't practice hard", "Beasley don't play defense"(Yea because Lewis does), "Beasley has to earn those minutes"(Because Lewis clearly has). If after 2 months of good play and terrible play of the player in front of him, doesn't earn him minutes, why sign him in the first place or have him on roster? It’s a waste of talent by Spo. Riley had the right vision but once again, Spo is holding back this team.

5. UD! I love this guy! The heart of Miami! Mr. 305! But why is it that at every turn, Spo is trying to find a reason to play him. Today, when being killed inside, we went with UD instead of Bird? Every time, the game is on the line, we try to bring in UD as if he is ALL Defense 1st Team. The guy has become an all time bad offensive shooter. I haven't done the numbers but I'm guessing last year isn't much different that then year! You ask what those numbers are. Last year Haslem averaged on spot-up jumpers just 29.5 percent! YES 29.5 percent! Your eyes aren't lying to you! From mid-range his accuracy rises slightly to 31 percent, which is still abysmal by his standards and the league! So I ask? Why are we playing UD? If we’re talking about 2014 and only this year, it’s foolish to put UD on the floor. Ok let’s stop talking about the offensive end of the floor! He must be in the game due to rebounding? Right? Well UD is averaging this year 2.9 rebounds, which puts him around the league average. So please I'll leave this topic to re-open the conversation. Why has UD done to earn his rotation minutes? And let’s not forget he re-earned those minutes after 1 game! Not a month but after 1 game, Spo declared him back!

So I ask the question? Are we being put in a position to succeed or a position to fail? I for one bet on LeBron/Wade/Bosh coming through when needed but ask yourself! If it wasn't for the greatness of Bron, are we being put in position to win? Are we playing the right system for this year? Is this regular season setting us up to fail?

Re: Spo & 2014 Issues

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:27 am
by Js2k0516
I tried to tell you guys that whole "hamstring" was bs with Beas. Something happened after Haslem got destroyed in the paint, assistant coach went off on Beas, and I'm sure Beas didn't stay quiet.

He's in the doghouse.

Those are my opinions, now onto the facts.

Lewis has earned SQUAT. He did NOTHING for us last year, has done nothing this year. There is no reason or logical reason for him to play ahead of Beasley.

Defense?? That's why he doesn't play?? Hmmm seems like I just saw the heat give up 75 points at half to the hawks. Beas played 2 min of that half. In spo's eyes, and in the Beasley haters eyes that was all on him lol.

Fact is our defense is trash. Lewis and haslem don't help that cause. Atleast Beasley brings something to the other side of the floor.

And don't get me started on Roger Melo Jr, I wish the guy that robbed his ass would of kidnapped him instead just to prevent him from being on this team!

Re: Spo & 2014 Issues

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:39 am
by Maroko
You guys are funny ! Spo is a back to back champion and last year he was COY !

Until we lose, he is right !

But i have the feeling that if we lose this year, a lot of things might change !
LeBron is like " You can't see the wood for the trees"

Re: Spo & 2014 Issues

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 3:23 am
by KingDavid
Maroko wrote:You guys are funny ! Spo is a back to back champion and last year he was COY !

Until we lose, he is right !

But i have the feeling that if we lose this year, a lot of things might change !
LeBron is like " You can't see the wood for the trees"
I thought the correct idiom was "can't see the forest for the trees". And I do think seeing the bigger picture is a massive problem here.

Re: Spo & 2014 Issues

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 3:24 am
by GameTime_3
Maroko wrote:You guys are funny ! Spo is a back to back champion and last year he was COY !

Until we lose, he is right !

But i have the feeling that if we lose this year, a lot of things might change !
LeBron is like " You can't see the wood for the trees"


Correct! But in 2014 what has he done? Is small ball working? Is Lewis the right guy for the job? Or will we just keep talking about last year like it will help us this year?

You know what! I surrender! Lewis is playing great! Stats don't support Beasley! Small ball is working! Mario as our play maker is working! UD earned his minutes after one game! UD sets great screens! Who needs a big men! Ray Allen's shot will carry us through this year! I will not question Spo as questioning Spo is illegal! Forgot how close we came to losing all 3 years of Big 3! I surrender! I'm off RealGM till Lewis is out of the rotation! GT3 out! Only thing that makes me happy right now is the fact I'll get to attend a game where Joel plays for the other team!!

Re: Spo & 2014 Issues

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 3:32 am
by HeatNation88
Maroko wrote:You guys are funny ! Spo is a back to back champion and last year he was COY !

Until we lose, he is right !

But i have the feeling that if we lose this year, a lot of things might change !
LeBron is like " You can't see the wood for the trees"


Spo wasn't coach of the year last year it was George Karl

Re: Spo & 2014 Issues

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 3:35 am
by nbhadja
Spo has his problems like rotations especially with Beasley, but it's not his fault the roster has no centers aside from Oden who is reserved for the playoffs. make a move- get Bynum Dalembert or Okafor (if boughtout)

Re: Spo & 2014 Issues

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 3:36 am
by Maroko
GameTime_3 wrote:
Maroko wrote:You guys are funny ! Spo is a back to back champion and last year he was COY !

Until we lose, he is right !

But i have the feeling that if we lose this year, a lot of things might change !
LeBron is like " You can't see the wood for the trees"


Correct! But in 2014 what has he done? Is small ball working? Is Lewis the right guy for the job? Or will we just keep talking about last year like it will help us this year?

You know what! I surrender! Lewis is playing great! Stats don't support Beasley! Small ball is working! Mario as our play maker is working! UD earned his minutes after one game! UD sets great screens! Who needs a big men! Ray Allen's shot will carry us through this year! I will not question Spo as questioning Spo is illegal! Forgot how close we came to losing all 3 years of Big 3! I surrender! I'm off RealGM till Lewis is out of the rotation! GT3 out! Only thing that makes me happy right now is the fact I'll get to attend a game where Joel plays for the other team!!



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Beasley will play huge minutes but he is not ready yet. I can see happen when Greg Oden is ready to be very dynamic with his legs to protect the rim and Beasley ! I would like to see us usig more of the zone therefore Beasley will be less exposed !
At the moment Lewis is rotating way better than Beasley, you cant see it from the box score but if you really take time to analyze Beasley on both ends of the court, you could clearly see how lost he is on defense.
IF we want to 3peat, we need him !

I wont lie i am MAD at SPO sometimes but this is the regular season

Re: Spo & 2014 Issues

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 3:38 am
by Maroko
MiamiHeatFan6 wrote:
Maroko wrote:You guys are funny ! Spo is a back to back champion and last year he was COY !

Until we lose, he is right !

But i have the feeling that if we lose this year, a lot of things might change !
LeBron is like " You can't see the wood for the trees"


Spo wasn't coach of the year last year it was George Karl



oops sorry ! you are right, Spo called the NBA to tell them i dont want to be cursed :D :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Spo & 2014 Issues

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 4:53 am
by Altered_Beast
spo is a dingbat. i can compile a list of problems i have with spo

1. defensive scheme is abhorrent: no need to constantly double team every time the pg has the ball in his hand. thats how teams pick us apart and swing the ball around for open shooters leading to scrub of the night candidates having huge games. fronting in the post is also a huge issue. you can have cole on david west and cole is indoctrinated so much that he will front david west in the post leading to an easy bucket or worse and 1. to make matters worse our constant double teaming and the ensuing scrambles to close out on shooters always lead to easy offensive boards.

2. rotations are a crime against humanity: no way should rashard lewis or mason get minutes over beasley or birdman. today i saw cole/chalmers/mason on the court at the same damn time. the minute allocation is also inconceivable. how can you play battier the whole quarter and then not put him in the rest of the game? how can you play beasley for 2 minutes and pull him out cause he missed one shot. what sort of performance evaluation is spo doing here?

3. offense relies too much on the three: for having 3 of the best athletes in the nba this team relies too much on the three. this is not a recipe for success and neither is it sustainable. sure the three ball is huge in todays nba but there should be no reason for bosh to be attempting 7 threes a game. lebron needs to initiate the offense from the post more often, usually when he does we get solid open looks instead of these last second jack up threes that are a result of this hot potato mentality the heat have swinging tha ball around like some damn kindergartners

Re: Spo & 2014 Issues

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:50 am
by Aussie Heat Fan
Spo's small ball beat Spurs/THunder in the Finals, but we were only there because 'talent' was too much for Indiana. If we played normal positions against Indiana on top of the talent we have, we'd have been too much for them. Instead we get ourselves close to being eliminated. Either get someone big to play on Hibbert so Bosh can play the 4 or get a bigger 4 to take West and live with Hibbert on Bosh. We can't have the 2 of them feasting on our small ball or we're doomed. Fix that and we will go all the way again IMO.

Re: Spo & 2014 Issues

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:37 am
by RSCD3_
What the heck is the point of having lewis for rotations when any forward can beat him off the iso or take him into the paint.

If I was the opposite coach id tell my sf or pf to just attack lewis all day long

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Re: Spo & 2014 Issues

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:04 am
by aboogie
And don't get me started on Roger Melo Jr, I wish the guy that robbed his ass would of kidnapped him instead just to prevent him from being on this team![/quote] quote of the year lmaooooooooiooooooooo

Re: Spo & 2014 Issues

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:04 am
by aboogie
Smhh

Re: Spo & 2014 Issues

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:09 am
by aboogie
Ud has not made a jump shot since the pacer series that's saying something... And when tony and Eric announced the game and they be like ud with the shot instead of saying (udidit) they should say (udident)

Re: Spo & 2014 Issues

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:54 am
by Maroko
In 2014, we won 5 games (no teams had a positive record)

and lost 5 (only 2 teams had a positive record : Warriors and the Hawks)

is it time to press the panic button ?

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Re: Spo & 2014 Issues

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:16 am
by Js2k0516
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Re: Spo & 2014 Issues

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 11:34 am
by BIRDMAN BIRDMAN
#FreeBeasley

Re: Spo & 2014 Issues

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 1:00 pm
by Maroko
Js2k0516 wrote:.


you literally made your point :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Spo & 2014 Issues

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 1:10 pm
by Dupas
we need to get younger