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Wade : Play him or shut him down for a while

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:18 pm
by Maroko
Miami Heat lacking chemistry with Dwyane Wade missing games


With Dwyane Wade missing his third consecutive game to rest his knees, LeBron James said Tuesday that it has been difficult establishing a collective rhythm amid the uncertainty about whether Wade would be available from game to game.
“It’s tough,” James said. “Guys think it’s easy, but it’s tough. We have a team built on chemistry, built on rhythm. With so many of the guys being in and out, and the concern with D-Wade, it’s been tough on all of us. We’ve got to go in with the mindset sometimes that he’s not playing, as opposed to: Is he playing?”

Wade has missed 12 games, but this marked the first time he has skipped three in a row. He admitted feeling “a little soreness” in the knees on Monday but wasn’t available to speak before Tuesday’s game. One of the games Wade missed earlier in the season was because of flu, with “rest” listed as the reason for the 11 other absences.
“What we try to do is not predetermine and have expectations about it,” coach Erik Spoelstra said. “You can’t predict it. You’re going to have some good days and some days where you don’t feel great. We know as long as we stick to the routine, he should get better, quicker and stronger. Now that we’re at home we can get back on the routine of strength training and conditioning.”

Ray Allen said “there’s no concern” about Wade’s knees because “he’s not injured. Nothing has happened where it’s sidelined him for a long period of time. It’s management of his body.”

But the Heat has played worse without Wade than it has in previous years since James joined the team. Miami entered Tuesday with a 5-6 record without Wade, compared with 11-2 last season and 14-3 in 2011-12.

“We’ve had a little more guys out than just Dwyane this year,” James said. “From a rhythm standpoint, it’s kind of hurt us. We’re a team that is built on rhythm and chemistry, and we’ve had so many guys out with injuries that it’s kind of hurt our performance.

“Me watching the film, some of the things we’ve been able to cover in the past is off. Last year, when D-Wade went out, we had Mike Miller to step in. Mike Miller was in the system for a while, so we could automatically fill that void. Now, with D-Wade out, it’s given more opportunities to guys that haven’t been in the system as many years or as many situations as Mike Miller.”

DOUGLAS JOINS TEAM

• Combo guard Toney Douglas, who had been training in Miami for several days since last Wednesday’s trade with Golden State and Boston, joined his teammates for Tuesday afternoon’s walkthrough, and said he was pleased with the deal because “it’s rare to come to a championship team.”
Douglas, who was on the inactive list Tuesday, said he has spoken with Heat president Pat Riley twice since the trade and “he told me they liked me, been on their radar for a long time and to do what I do best.”
Douglas, who averaged 3.7 points for Golden State, said the priority is picking up the Heat’s defensive schemes. “I pick up things well,” he said. “My mentality when I step on the floor is defensive-minded. I love to disrupt an opponent…. I’m here to get better and make an impact.”
This and That
• Michael Beasley entered Tuesday have playing just seven, two, six and three minutes over the previous four games, but Spoelstra did not answer directly when asked if there has been slippage in his game.
“That’s not an indictment on Michael,” Spoelstra said. “We’ve given up 120 points. I think we’re all at fault, including the staff.”
• Celtics coach Brad Stevens said before the game that the fact Joel Anthony, acquired from the Heat last week, knows the Heat’s play calls is “a benefit” but shouldn’t be overstated.
• Mario Chalmers received a warning, but not a fine, for violating the NBA’s antiflopping rule against Atlanta.
• As an example of how Spoelstra trusts his players more than he did early in the Big 3era, James noted: “We’ve had two games this year where he’s allowed guys to change a play late in the game. I was one of them. [Bosh] was the other.”

Source : Miami herald

http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/01/22/3 ... -with.html



The Heat should stop the in and out ! Give the necessary rest to recover or play him :evil:

Re: Wade : Play him or shut him down for a while

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:34 pm
by THEASSOCIATION
If Wade is gonna be shut down for a while, I'd try to explore a possible trade for Rodney Stuckey. Expiring contract in his prime and you would acquire his bird rights if you would want to retain him in the offseason. Similar style of play and he could start when Wade is resting. Question is do you have anything Detroit might want, maybe Chalmers or a future pick?

Re: Wade : Play him or shut him down for a while

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:36 pm
by Altered_Beast
THEASSOCIATION wrote:If Wade is gonna be shut down for a while, I'd try to explore a possible trade for Rodney Stuckey. Expiring contract in his prime and you would acquire his bird rights if you would want to retain him in the offseason. Similar style of play and he could start when Wade is resting. Question is do you have anything Detroit might want, maybe Chalmers or a future pick?


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edit: my bad man i though you wanted to trade wade for stuckey

Re: Wade : Play him or shut him down for a while

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:38 pm
by Maroko
Altered_Beast wrote:
THEASSOCIATION wrote:If Wade is gonna be shut down for a while, I'd try to explore a possible trade for Rodney Stuckey. Expiring contract in his prime and you would acquire his bird rights if you would want to retain him in the offseason. Similar style of play and he could start when Wade is resting. Question is do you have anything Detroit might want, maybe Chalmers or a future pick?


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edit: my bad man i though you wanted to trade wade for stuckey



Ok you edited your post but you kept the gif :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Wade : Play him or shut him down for a while

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:41 pm
by Heat_Fan_87
Part of me wants to shut him down for a month, until after the All star break, but the other part of me says he can have another setback after just one game.

Re: Wade : Play him or shut him down for a while

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 5:03 pm
by RexBoyWonder
Play him or shut him down for a while?


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We're palying him when he feels good and letting him rest when it's needed. You want us to keep out our second best player for a long while even on days his body is fine and he's ready to play? Just get him totally out of sync because you don't want to change the lineup on occasion?

WTF is happening to this board?

Re: Wade : Play him or shut him down for a while

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 5:10 pm
by Maroko
When he felt good, he played so great that we have no concern, right ! We must watch 2 differents games

Do you have the HD when you watch him ? Because in 2014 Wade is just a shadow

And almost forgot, HIS OWN TEAMMATE are concerned so i guess we dont need to be worrired
, it makes sense because they are with him every day :o

Re: Wade : Play him or shut him down for a while

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 5:32 pm
by RexBoyWonder
Maroko wrote:When he felt good, he played so great that we have no concern, right ! We must watch 2 differents games

Do you have the HD when you watch him ? Because in 2014 Wade is just a shadow

And almost forgot, HIS OWN TEAMMATE are concerned so i guess we dont need to be worrired
, it makes sense because they are with him every day :o



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Re: Wade : Play him or shut him down for a while

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 5:52 pm
by Smash3
Maroko wrote:When he felt good, he played so great that we have no concern, right ! We must watch 2 differents games

Do you have the HD when you watch him ? Because in 2014 Wade is just a shadow

And almost forgot, HIS OWN TEAMMATE are concerned so i guess we dont need to be worrired
, it makes sense because they are with him every day :o


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Re: Wade : Play him or shut him down for a while

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 5:53 pm
by Maroko
I got one for you

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There is a difference between having a good day and playing GOOD !

When he feels good, i havent seen a good wade, i am sorry. So instead of putting him in then out !Give him his time to recover properly, it's not like he is on holidays, he has his training session !

We are 22nd of January, give me a game in 2014 where he played good, i am not asking playing great but good AND in both ends of the court !

Re: Wade : Play him or shut him down for a while

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:16 pm
by Js2k0516
I agree. He needs to be put in an ice chamber til game 1 of ECF. I feel bad for him but he is done, and I think he knows it.

Don't get me wrong, on the off occasions that his knees feel "good" he plays well. But after every game his knees are sore/swollen etc. last year he was draining his knees every other day during the Playoffs, along with cortisone shots.

He's the face of this franchise, a Heat for life, but I feel bad for this organization. What's best for the TEAM's future is Wade taking a massive pay cut. But he won't, he's gonna ask for 15-18 a year, handicapping this franchise. I love Wade but I love the heat more, if that's the case, I hope Riley is smart enough to just say no to that contract. No other team in the league would offer that to him anymore.

With all these players having season ending surgeries, I worry everyday that Wades name is gonna be up on that wiretap.

Re: Wade : Play him or shut him down for a while

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:19 pm
by heater4life
Maroko wrote:I got one for you

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There is a difference between having a good day and playing GOOD !

When he feels good, i havent seen a good wade, i am sorry. So instead of putting him in then out !Give him his time to recover properly, it's not like he is on holidays, he has his training session !

We are 22nd of January, give me a game in 2014 where he played good, i am not asking playing great but good AND in both ends of the court !


Fortunately for us Heat fans this year, when Wade is playing bad , its because hes having a bad game. Its not because he is injured.

The only reason he is out is to PREVENT injury. Thats why its called a maintenance program.

Re: Wade : Play him or shut him down for a while

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:25 pm
by Js2k0516
^^^ in the words of the illiterate Rose " you can be a fool if you want to".

Re: Wade : Play him or shut him down for a while

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:26 pm
by heater4life
Js2k0516 wrote:Don't get me wrong, on the off occasions that his knees feel "good" he plays well. But after every game his knees are sore/swollen etc. last year he was draining his knees every other day during the Playoffs, along with cortisone shots.



Wade has been forced by the coaching staff to sit out back to back games in which has felt perfectly fine to play. Thats the purpose of having a proactive system, to avoid future injury, so that maybe he wont have to drain his knees during the playoffs because fans overact to players having a maintenance program.

Re: Wade : Play him or shut him down for a while

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:29 pm
by RexBoyWonder
Js2k0516 wrote:I agree. He needs to be put in an ice chamber til game 1 of ECF. I feel bad for him but he is done, and I think he knows it.

Don't get me wrong, on the off occasions that his knees feel "good" he plays well. But after every game his knees are sore/swollen etc. last year he was draining his knees every other day during the Playoffs, along with cortisone shots.

He's the face of this franchise, a Heat for life, but I feel bad for this organization. What's best for the TEAM's future is Wade taking a massive pay cut. But he won't, he's gonna ask for 15-18 a year, handicapping this franchise. I love Wade but I love the heat more, if that's the case, I hope Riley is smart enough to just say no to that contract. No other team in the league would offer that to him anymore.

With all these players having season ending surgeries, I worry everyday that Wades name is gonna be up on that wiretap.


Just a reminder, this is a Bulls fan, rooted for them when we played them in the playoffs. And Rose is done while Wade is coming back from a treatment we all knew is going to take time to be 100%.

Some of these new posters are such a joke, I hope we're not losing quality posters because this board is turning into crap.

Re: Wade : Play him or shut him down for a while

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:29 pm
by heater4life
edit: error

Re: Wade : Play him or shut him down for a while

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 7:17 pm
by Js2k0516
RexBoyWonder wrote:
Js2k0516 wrote:I agree. He needs to be put in an ice chamber til game 1 of ECF. I feel bad for him but he is done, and I think he knows it.

Don't get me wrong, on the off occasions that his knees feel "good" he plays well. But after every game his knees are sore/swollen etc. last year he was draining his knees every other day during the Playoffs, along with cortisone shots.

He's the face of this franchise, a Heat for life, but I feel bad for this organization. What's best for the TEAM's future is Wade taking a massive pay cut. But he won't, he's gonna ask for 15-18 a year, handicapping this franchise. I love Wade but I love the heat more, if that's the case, I hope Riley is smart enough to just say no to that contract. No other team in the league would offer that to him anymore.

With all these players having season ending surgeries, I worry everyday that Wades name is gonna be up on that wiretap.


Just a reminder, this is a Bulls fan, rooted for them when we played them in the playoffs. And Rose is done while Wade is coming back from a treatment we all knew is going to take time to be 100%.

Some of these new posters are such a joke, I hope we're not losing quality posters because this board is turning into crap.


Riveting post you bring great argument to the table, then you say the board is a joke. Maybe if weren't on my d*ck all the time, you would post something of value. I can be a fan of any team I want, you get that? You understand? I'm a heat fan, I live infront of fiu south campus, go to heat games all the time, I don't need some fat lil kid with a keyboard telling me if I'm a fan or not. Bring something of value to the discussion of shut your damn trap.

Yea I like the Bulls team too, get over it.

It's flattering that you follow me around posting after all my posts, but you need to get a life kid.

Re: Wade : Play him or shut him down for a while

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 7:21 pm
by DWadeno3
Some of the worst posters share their opinion in here, that's no surprise. No wonder the Heat fan base is looked upon as a joke, the overreactions on here are ridiculous.

Re: Wade : Play him or shut him down for a while

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 7:30 pm
by DefenseWins
Atleast the theory of the whole "Heat look disoriented because of the constant line up changes" is true these days.

This is why I hope by playoff time things will be fine because they'll know who is playing and who isn't.

Things need to get more consistent around here.

Regarding Wade, maybe set up a schedule for him? As opposed to game-time decisions all the time.

Lol it's funny that the oldest player on this team, Ray Allen, doesn't need any as much maintenance, but Wade does. Smh.

Re: Wade : Play him or shut him down for a while

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 7:35 pm
by DWadeno3
DefenseWins wrote:Atleast the theory of the whole "Heat look disoriented because of the constant line up changes" is true these days.

This is why I hope by playoff time things will be fine because they'll know who is playing and who isn't.

Things need to get more consistent around here.

Regarding Wade, maybe set up a schedule for him? As opposed to game-time decisions all the time.

Lol it's funny that the oldest player on this team, Ray Allen, doesn't need any as much maintenance, but Wade does. Smh.


What's funny about it? Wade is a vastly different player than Ray Allen, whose body didn't take the beating that Wade's took. Aside of that, Wade has had his meniscus removed and, as a result, always had to deal with tendinitis at some point while suffering a freak shoulder injury as well. It's bad luck and apparently a bad decision by a doctor, nothing else.

Regarding the schedule: I think the problem with the aftermath of the OssaTron treatment is that some nights you feel better and others you don't. Lewis alluded to that as well, who needed the full 6 months to make a full recovery. Thus, it's not possible to set a predetermined schedule of Wade being in or out of the lineup. It just is what it is, but him missing games is far from the main problem of us losing games. We're lazy and coasting and with our defensive scheme, that can look really bad, that's nothing new.