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Or blood or nothing!

Posted: Tue Feb 4, 2014 4:06 pm
by LBJ-ITALY
Lollll...this is my first topic here :)
How the hell this isn't and 1?!
http://makeagif.com/i/deErSt


it happens every damn night at least 3-4 times and Lebron doesn't get any call and in the other hand you can't breathe on Durant, the jump shooter Durant!

Re: Or blood or nothing!

Posted: Tue Feb 4, 2014 4:10 pm
by LBJ-ITALY
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1Z6xjFZKUU[/youtube]

Re: Or blood or nothing!

Posted: Tue Feb 4, 2014 5:50 pm
by Gwynplaine
Nothing new.. Has been happening for quite sometime.. Gets the Shaq treatment..

Re: Or blood or nothing!

Posted: Tue Feb 4, 2014 7:27 pm
by Smash3
What the refs see:

KD:

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How the refs look when KD drives to the rim:
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Lebron:
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Come on son you can handle it.

Re: Or blood or nothing!

Posted: Tue Feb 4, 2014 7:28 pm
by Maroko
Spoelstra comes out strong on hard fouls on LeBron

LeBron James has been able to both keep his temper and hold his tongue.

But Monday night, after another series of aggressive attempts to wrap up James before he potentially could do damage at the rim in transition, Miami Heat coach Erik Spoelstra voiced his displeasure.

With Detroit Pistons forward Josh Smith among the latest to make a play on James' shoulders, in the wake of a similar foul by New York Knicks forward Carmelo Anthony over the weekend, Spoelstra praised his forward for being able to walk away instead of escalating the moments.

"If this was the NBA of the 90s, he would have," Spoelstra said. "But he's an absolute professional for this league. He represents what you want out of this league.

"But those are tough plays. If it's somebody else without the strength and power and you're going up and somebody's wrapping you up with two hands over your shoulders to keep you from going, that's a tackle, by definition."

It is a subject Heat President Pat Riley addressed during last season's NBA Finals, one Riley said should result in more than a pair of free throws even when not deemed a flagrant foul.

"It's happening quite a bit," Spoelstra said. "We don't officially complain about it. But those are physical plays and there's not an intent, from our view, to make a basketball play on the ball."

In Spoelstra's view, James is being penalized for being able to power through such fouls.

"And that's because of his strength," he said. "That doesn't mean it's easy to officiate. But when it's two hands over the top and it's a tomahawk and results in something very similar to a tackle, that seems over the top."

The Heat, of course, have been here before, when Riley, then serving as coach, lamented hard fouls against then-Heat center Shaquille O'Neal.

"They're tough. And Shaq probably could have, dozens of times, exploded and turned that into something much more," Spoelstra said. "But the patience that they show is incredible, particularly when you know that play is coming.

"Fans want to see those spectacular plays. They want to see you make plays at the rim, even if it's a miss or a foul at the rim or coming through on a block and foul. But just to wrap somebody up over the shoulders and tackle 'em, you know, we'll see. Hopefully nothing ever happens from it other than free throws."

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-heat/sfl-miami-heat-lebron-james-s020414,0,1645391.storyl

Re: Or blood or nothing!

Posted: Tue Feb 4, 2014 7:50 pm
by Gwynplaine
Maroko wrote:Spoelstra comes out strong on hard fouls on LeBron

LeBron James has been able to both keep his temper and hold his tongue.

But Monday night, after another series of aggressive attempts to wrap up James before he potentially could do damage at the rim in transition, Miami Heat coach Erik Spoelstra voiced his displeasure.

With Detroit Pistons forward Josh Smith among the latest to make a play on James' shoulders, in the wake of a similar foul by New York Knicks forward Carmelo Anthony over the weekend, Spoelstra praised his forward for being able to walk away instead of escalating the moments.

"If this was the NBA of the 90s, he would have," Spoelstra said. "But he's an absolute professional for this league. He represents what you want out of this league.

"But those are tough plays. If it's somebody else without the strength and power and you're going up and somebody's wrapping you up with two hands over your shoulders to keep you from going, that's a tackle, by definition."

It is a subject Heat President Pat Riley addressed during last season's NBA Finals, one Riley said should result in more than a pair of free throws even when not deemed a flagrant foul.

"It's happening quite a bit," Spoelstra said. "We don't officially complain about it. But those are physical plays and there's not an intent, from our view, to make a basketball play on the ball."

In Spoelstra's view, James is being penalized for being able to power through such fouls.

"And that's because of his strength," he said. "That doesn't mean it's easy to officiate. But when it's two hands over the top and it's a tomahawk and results in something very similar to a tackle, that seems over the top."

The Heat, of course, have been here before, when Riley, then serving as coach, lamented hard fouls against then-Heat center Shaquille O'Neal.

"They're tough. And Shaq probably could have, dozens of times, exploded and turned that into something much more," Spoelstra said. "But the patience that they show is incredible, particularly when you know that play is coming.

"Fans want to see those spectacular plays. They want to see you make plays at the rim, even if it's a miss or a foul at the rim or coming through on a block and foul. But just to wrap somebody up over the shoulders and tackle 'em, you know, we'll see. Hopefully nothing ever happens from it other than free throws."

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-heat/sfl-miami-heat-lebron-james-s020414,0,1645391.storyl


It's about damn time..

Re: Or blood or nothing!

Posted: Tue Feb 4, 2014 8:08 pm
by deedsy
agree with Spo, nobody watches bball games to see guys get wrapped up. Can't stand when teams stop fast breaks by doing that - wish there was 'play on' like after some soccer fouls.

Re: Or blood or nothing!

Posted: Tue Feb 4, 2014 9:53 pm
by King_John
I don t have a problem with those so called hard fouls to be honest....I understand opponents don t want to give up two free points and be at the end of a highlight video every time. What annoys me though is the lack of foul calls on LeBron when he drives to the basket. Even yesterday against the Pistons I can think of two blatant obvious non calls where he got clearly fouled on a play.

Re: Or blood or nothing!

Posted: Tue Feb 4, 2014 10:05 pm
by TRG
LeBron is one of those rare cases where being so physically dominant over everyone else can work against you.

He's so damn strong and fast it's nearly impossible to prevent the guy from getting a shot off without committing some sort of over the shoulder "tackle" that Spo mentions above. But whenever he's fouled normally he just shrugs it off as if nothing happened and gets a clean shot off as opposed to flailing and getting a foul call like Durant.

Re: Or blood or nothing!

Posted: Tue Feb 4, 2014 10:43 pm
by RexBoyWonder
Or stupid posts or bad grammar.

Re: Or blood or nothing!

Posted: Wed Feb 5, 2014 6:10 am
by homecourtloss
Gwynplaine wrote:Nothing new.. Has been happening for quite sometime.. Gets the Shaq treatment..


I can't think of another player that gets fouled so blatantly 2-3 times a game and nothing is called. As Riley mentioned at the end of last year, every game should see LBJ taking 4-6 more FTs than he does if refs call it the way they do for everyone else.

Re: Or blood or nothing!

Posted: Wed Feb 5, 2014 11:54 am
by HIF
If UD was still on the floor we'd see a few opposition players hit the deck for some of these tackles.

Re: Or blood or nothing!

Posted: Wed Feb 5, 2014 2:53 pm
by plowking
HIF wrote:If UD was still on the floor we'd see a few opposition players hit the deck for some of these tackles.


Good thing we like winning games and keeping Haslem on the bench more than proving a point.

Re: Or blood or nothing!

Posted: Thu Feb 6, 2014 4:56 am
by 420
Why doesn't the Heat just foul other team's players like they foul LeBron? That's what I don't understand. The NBA allows this to go on and we're the only team not taking advantage of it.

Re: Or blood or nothing!

Posted: Thu Feb 6, 2014 12:08 pm
by CWebb2491
The refs do that to Carmelo as well, Its cause they play a physical style and the refs usually dont call the fouls when they get hit, unless they take teir heads off. Its crazy.