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[dr3am]

O. Zero. That was the number of FTA's that NBA's best player & most marketable player had today. That guys name is LeBron James. 4X MVP, 2X NBA Finals MVP & NBA Champion. The same LeBron James that leads the NBA in jersey sales but let's skip all of that

I for one am not the conspiracy theorist & the type of guy that complains 24/7 about officiating. But this whole NBA season i've been very frustrated & pissed the way that the Miami Heat & LeBron James is officiated compared to other NBA players & teams. During our 15 win season, i developed a love for the game of basketball. I started watching other teams outside of the Miami Heat. But after last years postseason, i've took a serious step back from NBA Basketball. I've actually for the first time ever watched way more NFL Football games. The reason for this is the piss poor officiating that has been displayed on our team compared to other teams like OKC, Indiana, Clippers, Rockets, etc.

What bothers me is how countless NBA analysts & fans say stuff like how LeBron James couldn't play in the 90s, even former Heat player Gary Payton brought this up. What could make people believe that? I know their are trolls but how come LeBron James is the big name superstar that people say can't play in the 90's? Why is it that people say this but it was okay for Jordan to play in the 90's & get away with soft calls "The Jordan Rule"

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLv2F33snCE[/youtube]

Why doesn't a guy like this get mentioned?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHvb3lW7EeE[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXYxwBpXEvw[/youtube]

Is it because of the fact that LeBron is an athletic freak of nature? That seems to be the excuse nowadays. But does being an athletic freak of nature make it ok for a player to foul you 3 times & not get called for a foul?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLRLM5mQKHQ[/youtube]

What about hand checking? I could've swore their were rules on that, but when it comes to LeBron James & Dwyane Wade, I guess not



Since when did the NBA allow headlocks, clotheslines, shoving or tackling players on drives/fast-breaks? Oh well i guess it cool to just do it to LeBron

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gZtjSxQlNg&list=UU6cu9vVWCKOw-PUPCvyDM4Q[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfM1uRDLx8Y[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UR5RGAcPhSw[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q94xtYMoooA[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dc2wXZgeOb0[/youtube]

I wonder how many of these type of hits that Durant has took or if players have even gotten away with hand checking Durant...Hmm i doubt it because if these were to happen to Kevin Durant, there would be a lot of ejections/flagrant 2's being handed out

But let's take the time to look at another player who just like Durant, barely gets touched but somehow averages double digit FT's

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3kaWb_isZU[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_5N2bYLt28[/youtube]

Stuff like this is hard to stomach. It's almost like you can't even try to play defense on these two without being called for a foul

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3kaWb_isZU[/youtube]

Also i'm still trying to figure out to this day how this is considered as a flagrant foul but this one is not?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFnmJgxft_s[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0reaAGvSkAQ[/youtube]

Neither one of these are flagrant's to me but it's hilarious how a dude like Kevin Durant who hasn't won anything in this league gets away with that in a clutch moment but all LeBron does was lower his elbow and gets called for a flagrant. Disgusting

Also i understand that the NBA refs are (Please Use More Appropriate Word). Let's just keep it real here. They're dumb as rocks. But with all the technology we have in the NBA today you honestly can't go back and see when somebody clearly got fouled??? How do you even miss this? DJ Augustin clearly had his hands on LeBron



Or the fact that LeBron gets kicked in the face but yet he gets called for a double technical foul? Wut? Is LeBron a scrub? With all the stuff that people get away with on him, it's hard to tell if he's even the best player in the game
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pq6kCpn64D8[/youtube]

Also i could've swore in today's NBA that going for people's necks over going for the ball is a flagrant. But apparently not
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYJwArukrsM[/youtube]

Funny because as soon as the new commissioner came on, he said he wanted the NBA to compete with the NFL. Hmm i wonder if big name QB's in the NFL like Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, etc. ever got flagged for apologizing

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC7wPIBSVTw&list=UU6cu9vVWCKOw-PUPCvyDM4Q[/youtube]

Also how are you going to compete with the NFL when zebras give techs for this?
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsXkFzFXlh4[/youtube]

It's like you can't show emotion in the NBA anymore. Why is it that this past Tuesday against the Houston Rockets Birdman got a technical for doing want of his signature poses after a block but Joakim Noah can scream, whine & complain all game long and doesn't get ejected??



I'm speaking from a fan of the game's perspective here. I just don't think it's right that guys like Durant, Noah, Harden, etc. get away with so many little things? And on top of that neither of them has won anything

I don't feel like LeBron & Wade should average double digit FT's because at times, i feel like both of them shy away from contact a lot. LeBron hasn't been very aggressive because of his nose being busted & having to play with masks while Wade is dealing with enough injuries as it is. BUT 4 & 7 FTA's (Wade & LeBron) a game compared to 8 & 9 FTA's (Harden & KD) is annoying. Ain't no way in hell that Durant or Harden should be averaging more FTA's a game then LeBron, I'm sorry

I made this thread because not only as a die hard Heat fan, but as a fan of the game i'm frustrated & annoyed. I feel like too many people in the organization right now aren't stepping out to call out this BS. Our organization has been known for being classy & treating everyone like family. So why did our family just sit back today & let Wade get whacked & LeBron get hand checked twice & getting robbed of And 1's (Dunk on Augustin & the late drive in the 4th on Noah) without saying anything? Not once did i see Spo run over to the refs to complain. Spo is a great coach but today was one of those games were you risk some mula to show that we're not going to sit back & tolerate our two top players getting hand checked & whacked without a response. A few weeks ago in the game between the Clippers-OKC Doc Rivers stuck up for Jamal Crawford & flat out told the refs how players on OKC are getting away with numerous hand-checks on Crawford & to stop helping Durant because he's good enough already. After that, OKC defenders got whistled for hand checking Jamal Crawford. All it takes is a voice to make a difference. Thibs uses his voice, Doc uses his voice, Pop uses his voice & hell even the Don Pat Riley used his voice back in his coaching days.

I'm not a Spo hater & i think he's a good coach but today i felt like he doesn't deserve a pass. Not only is LeBron our best player (& NBA's best player) but he's also part of the family & this organization. It's worth it to risk losing money to get better results if you ask me

[fast-break]

Spoelstra is bounty soft when it comes to sticking up for his star not getting calls and I don't understand why. The officiating of this team seems to be getting worse.

[OtW]

To date, that Pacers Game 6 Offensive foul call, aka 'Running away and getting hit with a T" gate is probably the most egregious thing I have seen involving officials and this team. My blood boils every time I see that video/gif.


Spoelstra has gotten soft. He needs to get techs to get his point across. I remember that one time he got ejected against LAC, he **** APOLOGIZED after the game. I would NEVER apologize for acting that way towards a referee/player. That completely defeats the point I wanted to get across. That is what happened with Spo after that game where he did get ejected. He completely defeated his own point.

[DWadeno3]

If it's Wade getting FTs, LeBron doesn't get many, if it's LeBron getting FT's, Wade doesn't get many. With that being said, part of it has to do with either not being aggressive enough, which LeBron simply wasn't last night. I didn't see too many scenes where he had earned a shooting foul.

[Maroko]

Spo is not a vocal coach like coach Thibs or coach Pop, he doesnt know how to work on refs like doc or even Vogel.
This is his nature, he wont change.

The Heat's approach is to complain by sending vids to the NBA. Obviously this is not working. The thing i hate about it, he leaves it to the players. You have LeBron who will start complaining about the no calls or how he gets hacked on the media and he gets bashed by everyone ! It was the same story with Shaq

i dont see any solutions about it. Of course you could get a Dexter Pitman 2.0, ok you will use him to send a message but the problems is more on the refs allowing players to hack ours

[WinisKing]

O. Zero. That was the number of FTA's that NBA's best player & most marketable player had today. That guys name is LeBron James. 4X MVP, 2X NBA Finals MVP & NBA Champion. The same LeBron James that leads the NBA in jersey sales but let's skip all of that

I for one am not the conspiracy theorist & the type of guy that complains 24/7 about officiating. But this whole NBA season i've been very frustrated & pissed the way that the Miami Heat & LeBron James is officiated compared to other NBA players & teams. During our 15 win season, i developed a love for the game of basketball. I started watching other teams outside of the Miami Heat. But after last years postseason, i've took a serious step back from NBA Basketball. I've actually for the first time ever watched way more NFL Football games. The reason for this is the piss poor officiating that has been displayed on our team compared to other teams like OKC, Indiana, Clippers, Rockets, etc.

What bothers me is how countless NBA analysts & fans say stuff like how LeBron James couldn't play in the 90s, even former Heat player Gary Payton brought this up. What could make people believe that? I know their are trolls but how come LeBron James is the big name superstar that people say can't play in the 90's? Why is it that people say this but it was okay for Jordan to play in the 90's & get away with soft calls "The Jordan Rule"

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLv2F33snCE[/youtube]

Why doesn't a guy like this get mentioned?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHvb3lW7EeE[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXYxwBpXEvw[/youtube]

Is it because of the fact that LeBron is an athletic freak of nature? That seems to be the excuse nowadays. But does being an athletic freak of nature make it ok for a player to foul you 3 times & not get called for a foul?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLRLM5mQKHQ[/youtube]

What about hand checking? I could've swore their were rules on that, but when it comes to LeBron James & Dwyane Wade, I guess not



Since when did the NBA allow headlocks, clotheslines, shoving or tackling players on drives/fast-breaks? Oh well i guess it cool to just do it to LeBron

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gZtjSxQlNg&list=UU6cu9vVWCKOw-PUPCvyDM4Q[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfM1uRDLx8Y[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UR5RGAcPhSw[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q94xtYMoooA[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dc2wXZgeOb0[/youtube]

I wonder how many of these type of hits that Durant has took or if players have even gotten away with hand checking Durant...Hmm i doubt it because if these were to happen to Kevin Durant, there would be a lot of ejections/flagrant 2's being handed out

But let's take the time to look at another player who just like Durant, barely gets touched but somehow averages double digit FT's

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3kaWb_isZU[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_5N2bYLt28[/youtube]

Stuff like this is hard to stomach. It's almost like you can't even try to play defense on these two without being called for a foul

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3kaWb_isZU[/youtube]

Also i'm still trying to figure out to this day how this is considered as a flagrant foul but this one is not?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFnmJgxft_s[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0reaAGvSkAQ[/youtube]

Neither one of these are flagrant's to me but it's hilarious how a dude like Kevin Durant who hasn't won anything in this league gets away with that in a clutch moment but all LeBron does was lower his elbow and gets called for a flagrant. Disgusting

Also i understand that the NBA refs are (Please Use More Appropriate Word). Let's just keep it real here. They're dumb as rocks. But with all the technology we have in the NBA today you honestly can't go back and see when somebody clearly got fouled??? How do you even miss this? DJ Augustin clearly had his hands on LeBron



Or the fact that LeBron gets kicked in the face but yet he gets called for a double technical foul? Wut? Is LeBron a scrub? With all the stuff that people get away with on him, it's hard to tell if he's even the best player in the game
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pq6kCpn64D8[/youtube]

Also i could've swore in today's NBA that going for people's necks over going for the ball is a flagrant. But apparently not
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYJwArukrsM[/youtube]

Funny because as soon as the new commissioner came on, he said he wanted the NBA to compete with the NFL. Hmm i wonder if big name QB's in the NFL like Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, etc. ever got flagged for apologizing

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC7wPIBSVTw&list=UU6cu9vVWCKOw-PUPCvyDM4Q[/youtube]

Also how are you going to compete with the NFL when zebras give techs for this?
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsXkFzFXlh4[/youtube]

It's like you can't show emotion in the NBA anymore. Why is it that this past Tuesday against the Houston Rockets Birdman got a technical for doing want of his signature poses after a block but Joakim Noah can scream, whine & complain all game long and doesn't get ejected??



I'm speaking from a fan of the game's perspective here. I just don't think it's right that guys like Durant, Noah, Harden, etc. get away with so many little things? And on top of that neither of them has won anything

I don't feel like LeBron & Wade should average double digit FT's because at times, i feel like both of them shy away from contact a lot. LeBron hasn't been very aggressive because of his nose being busted & having to play with masks while Wade is dealing with enough injuries as it is. BUT 4 & 7 FTA's (Wade & LeBron) a game compared to 8 & 9 FTA's (Harden & KD) is annoying. Ain't no way in hell that Durant or Harden should be averaging more FTA's a game then LeBron, I'm sorry

I made this thread because not only as a die hard Heat fan, but as a fan of the game i'm frustrated & annoyed. I feel like too many people in the organization right now aren't stepping out to call out this BS. Our organization has been known for being classy & treating everyone like family. So why did our family just sit back today & let Wade get whacked & LeBron get hand checked twice & getting robbed of And 1's (Dunk on Augustin & the late drive in the 4th on Noah) without saying anything? Not once did i see Spo run over to the refs to complain. Spo is a great coach but today was one of those games were you risk some mula to show that we're not going to sit back & tolerate our two top players getting hand checked & whacked without a response. A few weeks ago in the game between the Clippers-OKC Doc Rivers stuck up for Jamal Crawford & flat out told the refs how players on OKC are getting away with numerous hand-checks on Crawford & to stop helping Durant because he's good enough already. After that, OKC defenders got whistled for hand checking Jamal Crawford. All it takes is a voice to make a difference. Thibs uses his voice, Doc uses his voice, Pop uses his voice & hell even the Don Pat Riley used his voice back in his coaching days.

I'm not a Spo hater & i think he's a good coach but today i felt like he doesn't deserve a pass. Not only is LeBron our best player (& NBA's best player) but he's also part of the family & this organization. It's worth it to risk losing money to get better results if you ask me

This post needs exposure

[dr3am]

O. Zero. That was the number of FTA's that NBA's best player & most marketable player had today. That guys name is LeBron James. 4X MVP, 2X NBA Finals MVP & NBA Champion. The same LeBron James that leads the NBA in jersey sales but let's skip all of that

I for one am not the conspiracy theorist & the type of guy that complains 24/7 about officiating. But this whole NBA season i've been very frustrated & pissed the way that the Miami Heat & LeBron James is officiated compared to other NBA players & teams. During our 15 win season, i developed a love for the game of basketball. I started watching other teams outside of the Miami Heat. But after last years postseason, i've took a serious step back from NBA Basketball. I've actually for the first time ever watched way more NFL Football games. The reason for this is the piss poor officiating that has been displayed on our team compared to other teams like OKC, Indiana, Clippers, Rockets, etc.

What bothers me is how countless NBA analysts & fans say stuff like how LeBron James couldn't play in the 90s, even former Heat player Gary Payton brought this up. What could make people believe that? I know their are trolls but how come LeBron James is the big name superstar that people say can't play in the 90's? Why is it that people say this but it was okay for Jordan to play in the 90's & get away with soft calls "The Jordan Rule"

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLv2F33snCE[/youtube]

Why doesn't a guy like this get mentioned?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHvb3lW7EeE[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXYxwBpXEvw[/youtube]

Is it because of the fact that LeBron is an athletic freak of nature? That seems to be the excuse nowadays. But does being an athletic freak of nature make it ok for a player to foul you 3 times & not get called for a foul?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLRLM5mQKHQ[/youtube]

What about hand checking? I could've swore their were rules on that, but when it comes to LeBron James & Dwyane Wade, I guess not



Since when did the NBA allow headlocks, clotheslines, shoving or tackling players on drives/fast-breaks? Oh well i guess it cool to just do it to LeBron

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gZtjSxQlNg&list=UU6cu9vVWCKOw-PUPCvyDM4Q[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfM1uRDLx8Y[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UR5RGAcPhSw[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q94xtYMoooA[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dc2wXZgeOb0[/youtube]

I wonder how many of these type of hits that Durant has took or if players have even gotten away with hand checking Durant...Hmm i doubt it because if these were to happen to Kevin Durant, there would be a lot of ejections/flagrant 2's being handed out

But let's take the time to look at another player who just like Durant, barely gets touched but somehow averages double digit FT's

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3kaWb_isZU[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_5N2bYLt28[/youtube]

Stuff like this is hard to stomach. It's almost like you can't even try to play defense on these two without being called for a foul

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3kaWb_isZU[/youtube]

Also i'm still trying to figure out to this day how this is considered as a flagrant foul but this one is not?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFnmJgxft_s[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0reaAGvSkAQ[/youtube]

Neither one of these are flagrant's to me but it's hilarious how a dude like Kevin Durant who hasn't won anything in this league gets away with that in a clutch moment but all LeBron does was lower his elbow and gets called for a flagrant. Disgusting

Also i understand that the NBA refs are (Please Use More Appropriate Word). Let's just keep it real here. They're dumb as rocks. But with all the technology we have in the NBA today you honestly can't go back and see when somebody clearly got fouled??? How do you even miss this? DJ Augustin clearly had his hands on LeBron



Or the fact that LeBron gets kicked in the face but yet he gets called for a double technical foul? Wut? Is LeBron a scrub? With all the stuff that people get away with on him, it's hard to tell if he's even the best player in the game
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pq6kCpn64D8[/youtube]

Also i could've swore in today's NBA that going for people's necks over going for the ball is a flagrant. But apparently not
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYJwArukrsM[/youtube]

Funny because as soon as the new commissioner came on, he said he wanted the NBA to compete with the NFL. Hmm i wonder if big name QB's in the NFL like Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, etc. ever got flagged for apologizing

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC7wPIBSVTw&list=UU6cu9vVWCKOw-PUPCvyDM4Q[/youtube]

Also how are you going to compete with the NFL when zebras give techs for this?
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsXkFzFXlh4[/youtube]

It's like you can't show emotion in the NBA anymore. Why is it that this past Tuesday against the Houston Rockets Birdman got a technical for doing want of his signature poses after a block but Joakim Noah can scream, whine & complain all game long and doesn't get ejected??



I'm speaking from a fan of the game's perspective here. I just don't think it's right that guys like Durant, Noah, Harden, etc. get away with so many little things? And on top of that neither of them has won anything

I don't feel like LeBron & Wade should average double digit FT's because at times, i feel like both of them shy away from contact a lot. LeBron hasn't been very aggressive because of his nose being busted & having to play with masks while Wade is dealing with enough injuries as it is. BUT 4 & 7 FTA's (Wade & LeBron) a game compared to 8 & 9 FTA's (Harden & KD) is annoying. Ain't no way in hell that Durant or Harden should be averaging more FTA's a game then LeBron, I'm sorry

I made this thread because not only as a die hard Heat fan, but as a fan of the game i'm frustrated & annoyed. I feel like too many people in the organization right now aren't stepping out to call out this BS. Our organization has been known for being classy & treating everyone like family. So why did our family just sit back today & let Wade get whacked & LeBron get hand checked twice & getting robbed of And 1's (Dunk on Augustin & the late drive in the 4th on Noah) without saying anything? Not once did i see Spo run over to the refs to complain. Spo is a great coach but today was one of those games were you risk some mula to show that we're not going to sit back & tolerate our two top players getting hand checked & whacked without a response. A few weeks ago in the game between the Clippers-OKC Doc Rivers stuck up for Jamal Crawford & flat out told the refs how players on OKC are getting away with numerous hand-checks on Crawford & to stop helping Durant because he's good enough already. After that, OKC defenders got whistled for hand checking Jamal Crawford. All it takes is a voice to make a difference. Thibs uses his voice, Doc uses his voice, Pop uses his voice & hell even the Don Pat Riley used his voice back in his coaching days.

I'm not a Spo hater & i think he's a good coach but today i felt like he doesn't deserve a pass. Not only is LeBron our best player (& NBA's best player) but he's also part of the family & this organization. It's worth it to risk losing money to get better results if you ask me

This post needs exposure

Thanks man. I appreciate the great feedback

[420]

Seriously, this deserves to be tweeted to Micky Arison, Eric Reid, Tony Fiorentino, Jason Jackson, and any other person related to the Heat that's on twitter.

You went above and beyond to prove your point. I'm sure you would've been at it for a few days if you went and looked every terrible non-call and non-flagrant on just LeBron.

I understand why Spo and the Heat keep their mouth shut (b/c the NBA will penalize them even further with the officiating if they speak up about it), but not a single technical foul from Spo? Man, I would HATE to go to war for him on the court.

I didn't watch today's game, and I'm glad that I didn't!

[dr3am]

Seriously, this deserves to be tweeted to Micky Arison, Eric Reid, Tony Fiorentino, Jason Jackson, and any other person related to the Heat that's on twitter.

You went above and beyond to prove your point. I'm sure you would've been at it for a few days if you went and looked every terrible non-call and non-flagrant on just LeBron.

I understand why Spo and the Heat keep their mouth shut (b/c the NBA will penalize them even further with the officiating if they speak up about it), but not a single technical foul from Spo? Man, I would HATE to go to war for him on the court.

I didn't watch today's game, but and I'm glad that I didn't!

Thanks homie & your'e right. I could've went for days with this thread on how much bs other players get away with on LeBron. Same could go for Wade too

It's just always puzzling to me that we're the defending Champions but yet we don't get treated like it. I guess Durant's story of always finishing second is why the NBA are trying to push him or w/e but fck it.

And Spo was a robot out there. Like I said earlier LeBron had to scream at the refs just to get them to review Kirk's hard foul on Wade that was considered a common foul

And your'e lucky you missed the game because i you would've been pissed. I'm tired of those regular season bitches up in Chicago. I would say i want to embarrass them in the playoffs again but at this point there not even worth it. They're easily the biggest pretenders on the East and they're boring

[GameTime_3]

And 1 plus a million. Sad part is as fans we are more the Spo. Lebron with a broken nose got no reactions from Spo. Now 0 FT's and guess what? Cliche SpoBot talk with no mention of his star player lack of respect A part of is the league but really if the team doesn't react or call out the officials why would the league. Spo is a champion but far from a great coach. Give me Thibs and we still have 2 titles and right now ESPN would have Thibs fighting for his Star

[420]

Seriously, this deserves to be tweeted to Micky Arison, Eric Reid, Tony Fiorentino, Jason Jackson, and any other person related to the Heat that's on twitter.

You went above and beyond to prove your point. I'm sure you would've been at it for a few days if you went and looked every terrible non-call and non-flagrant on just LeBron.

I understand why Spo and the Heat keep their mouth shut (b/c the NBA will penalize them even further with the officiating if they speak up about it), but not a single technical foul from Spo? Man, I would HATE to go to war for him on the court.

I didn't watch today's game, but and I'm glad that I didn't!

Thanks homie & you're right. I could've went for days with this thread on how much bs other players get away with on LeBron. Same could go for Wade too

It's just always puzzling to me that we're the defending Champions but yet we don't get treated like it. I guess Durant's story of always finishing second is why the NBA are trying to push him or w/e but fck it.

And Spo was a robot out there. Like I said earlier LeBron had to scream at the refs just to get them to review Kirk's hard foul on Wade that was considered a common foul

And you're lucky you missed the game because i you would've been pissed. I'm tired of those regular season bitches up in Chicago. I would say i want to embarrass them in the playoffs again but at this point there not even worth it. They're easily the biggest pretenders on the East and they're boring

Like I said in my "This team's softness pisses me off" thread, the Heat need to stop looking to the NBA to address the problem. For every hard foul they get, they should reciprocate that same foul on the other end the first chance they get. Clearly the refs think it's okay, so why not use it to their advantage? They could just point back to the previous play and would have a valid argument. They need to stop playing the role of the victim.

If the NBA wanted to fix the accusations of the game being rigged, they would do two things:
- add a 4th ref that sits on the sidelines, with access to the TV feed that the fans get and along with instant-replay, that would call fouls that the refs on the floor failed to see.
- start fining and punishing refs, like they do the teams when they complain about calls, for every call they screw up.

These are simple solutions that would go a long way to fix the problem, but the NBA doesn't want to fix the issue because they hide behind the poor officiating as a way to manipulate the games for ratings.

I'm also tired of all these so-called "defensive-minded" teams that in reality are just allowed to play more physical than other teams. Any team could play good defense if they were allowed to get away with fouls, just look at the Golden State Warriors under Mark Jackson!

[Zo-Zo Ma]

hey man, good job good effort on this post. hah

even though I try to stay away from the Ref talk, it's just glaringly obvious after this past season that LeBron is being treated as a separate entity.

The league must have their own set of "LeBron Rules". that's the only conclusion I can come to after seeing some of the horrific calls over the past 2 years. I know bad calls happen, but in LBJs case this has to be a systematic hosing from the refs. but why? that's what I can't figure out. why stunt the best and most iconic player in the league?

It's so infuriating to see LeBron get whacked and tackled for 2 straight years, then turn the channel to see KD getting 2 FT's on a jumper the first minute of the game. it's NUTS

I literally was pulling my hair out during that Pacers series last playoffs, when Lebron got the offensive foul and the Tech i'm pretty sure I was foaming at the mouth.

I'm done taking the neutral side on this ref/fouls argument as it's become too obvious, this game put me over the edge.

[KDS91]

GOAT thread right here.

[whitehops]

I generally agree, but those were some poor examples in the OP. some of those were called flagrant, not sure what more you want. also the butler strip from today seemed clean to me.

that said, here are a ton of plays that are fouls and not called for LeBron. I actually laughed at the alleyoop today, augustin fouled him intentionally and there was no whistle.


it's not LeBron specifically, Dwight and melo get the same sort of treatment. it sucks but it's part of the game. if any of you play pickup ball and play against physically dominant players you can probably appreciate trying to guard someone like that, and the amount you have to foul (even if it isn't a huge foul) just to try to slow them down.

I have noticed, however, that he gets more punishment from the bulls and pacers that isn't called. it seems when physical teams set the tone they can get away with they physical stuff for the most part. the refs can't call a foul every play...


on the flip side, I've noticed that LeBron gets away with using his off arm a lot. sometimes he'll literally push his defender off using his forearm lol, especially when they try to pressure the ball.

[420]

I for one am not the conspiracy theorist & the type of guy that complains 24/7 about officiating.

I am and I'm not ashamed of it! I've watched too much NBA to think otherwise.

Remember when Joey Crawford got fired that one season (the Tim Duncan fiasco, IIRC) and then returned the next season (again, IIRC)? I wonder what beans he was going to spill that he used to blackmail Stern into getting his job back.

[dr3am]

Seriously, this deserves to be tweeted to Micky Arison, Eric Reid, Tony Fiorentino, Jason Jackson, and any other person related to the Heat that's on twitter.

You went above and beyond to prove your point. I'm sure you would've been at it for a few days if you went and looked every terrible non-call and non-flagrant on just LeBron.

I understand why Spo and the Heat keep their mouth shut (b/c the NBA will penalize them even further with the officiating if they speak up about it), but not a single technical foul from Spo? Man, I would HATE to go to war for him on the court.

I didn't watch today's game, but and I'm glad that I didn't!

Thanks homie & you're right. I could've went for days with this thread on how much bs other players get away with on LeBron. Same could go for Wade too

It's just always puzzling to me that we're the defending Champions but yet we don't get treated like it. I guess Durant's story of always finishing second is why the NBA are trying to push him or w/e but fck it.

And Spo was a robot out there. Like I said earlier LeBron had to scream at the refs just to get them to review Kirk's hard foul on Wade that was considered a common foul

And you're lucky you missed the game because i you would've been pissed. I'm tired of those regular season bitches up in Chicago. I would say i want to embarrass them in the playoffs again but at this point there not even worth it. They're easily the biggest pretenders on the East and they're boring

Like I said in my "This team's softness pisses me off" thread, the Heat need to stop looking to the NBA to address the problem. For every hard foul they get, they should reciprocate that same foul on the other end the first chance they get. Clearly the refs think it's okay, so why not use it to their advantage? They could just point back to the previous play and would have a valid argument. They need to stop being playing the role of the victim.

If the NBA wanted to fix the accusations of the game being rigged, they would do two things:
- add a 4th ref that sits on the sidelines, with access to the TV feed that the fans get and along with instant-replay, that would call fouls that the refs on the floor failed to see.
- start fining and punishing refs, like they do the teams when they complain about calls, for every call they screw up.

These are simple solutions that would go a long way to fix the problem, but the NBA doesn't want to fix the issue because they hide behind the poor officiating as a way to manipulate the games for ratings.

I'm also tired of all these so-called "defensive-minded" teams that in reality are just allowed to play more physical than other teams. Any team could play good defense if they were allowed to get away with fouls, just look at the Golden State Warriors under Mark Jackson!

I agree with your ideas & to add to that, i would love for the NBA to establish coaching flags like in Football to challenge horrendous calls. It may slow the game down but at the end of the day, as long as the call is correct then everybody will be happy

I 100% agree with you about these "defensive-minded" teams. They're so full of ****. When we actually match teams physical & mental toughness like in Game 2 against Chicago last year, they wanna bitch & whine and act like they're the good guys, the victims. It's annoying. I've seen numerous games where Kirk bear hugs players & get away with not being called for a flagrant. But hey That's the "Chicago Bulls way". Same with Indiana, Golden State, Doc Rivers Celtics, etc. They get away with a lot of dirty fouls but yet they're considered great defensive minded teams

To be honest, we got punked today. We didn't match Chicago's effort which is always annoying because we could easily blow them out if we out hustle & match their energy. They're an offensive challenged team who struggles to score. But the reason why we look like victims is because Spo never steps up to the nonsense. Remember last year when Vogel stepped up and called out officials on Hibbert going straight up?? Well look now, Hibbert is the only reason why the BS Verticality rule is established. Also another reason why we play the role of victim a lot is due to us not having that dude that would put fear in you outside of UD. Like GT3 said in the Game Thread earlier, this was the type of game where a Juwan Howard/Jamaal Magloire would've came in handy

[dr3am]

GOAT thread right here.

Thanks agentk16

I really appreciate everybody's feedback on this thread (agree or disagree). I was definitely interested in hearing fellow Heat fans view on the situation & it's more of an opinion thread more than anything. I've been thinking about this for a long time & i wanted to get it off my chest

[MisterHibachi]

LeBron and KD MADE the same amount of shots from the field tonight. KD finished with 10 more points. He's just not allowed to have bad scoring nights because of the free throw parade. Then fools on the GB are like 'lololol, Heat fan complaining about calls, gtfo'.

[Jipluralx]

Spoiler:

O. Zero. That was the number of FTA's that NBA's best player & most marketable player had today. That guys name is LeBron James. 4X MVP, 2X NBA Finals MVP & NBA Champion. The same LeBron James that leads the NBA in jersey sales but let's skip all of that

I for one am not the conspiracy theorist & the type of guy that complains 24/7 about officiating. But this whole NBA season i've been very frustrated & pissed the way that the Miami Heat & LeBron James is officiated compared to other NBA players & teams. During our 15 win season, i developed a love for the game of basketball. I started watching other teams outside of the Miami Heat. But after last years postseason, i've took a serious step back from NBA Basketball. I've actually for the first time ever watched way more NFL Football games. The reason for this is the piss poor officiating that has been displayed on our team compared to other teams like OKC, Indiana, Clippers, Rockets, etc.

What bothers me is how countless NBA analysts & fans say stuff like how LeBron James couldn't play in the 90s, even former Heat player Gary Payton brought this up. What could make people believe that? I know their are trolls but how come LeBron James is the big name superstar that people say can't play in the 90's? Why is it that people say this but it was okay for Jordan to play in the 90's & get away with soft calls "The Jordan Rule"

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLv2F33snCE[/youtube]

Why doesn't a guy like this get mentioned?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHvb3lW7EeE[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXYxwBpXEvw[/youtube]

Is it because of the fact that LeBron is an athletic freak of nature? That seems to be the excuse nowadays. But does being an athletic freak of nature make it ok for a player to foul you 3 times & not get called for a foul?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLRLM5mQKHQ[/youtube]

What about hand checking? I could've swore their were rules on that, but when it comes to LeBron James & Dwyane Wade, I guess not



Since when did the NBA allow headlocks, clotheslines, shoving or tackling players on drives/fast-breaks? Oh well i guess it cool to just do it to LeBron

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gZtjSxQlNg&list=UU6cu9vVWCKOw-PUPCvyDM4Q[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfM1uRDLx8Y[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UR5RGAcPhSw[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q94xtYMoooA[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dc2wXZgeOb0[/youtube]

I wonder how many of these type of hits that Durant has took or if players have even gotten away with hand checking Durant...Hmm i doubt it because if these were to happen to Kevin Durant, there would be a lot of ejections/flagrant 2's being handed out

But let's take the time to look at another player who just like Durant, barely gets touched but somehow averages double digit FT's

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3kaWb_isZU[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_5N2bYLt28[/youtube]

Stuff like this is hard to stomach. It's almost like you can't even try to play defense on these two without being called for a foul

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3kaWb_isZU[/youtube]

Also i'm still trying to figure out to this day how this is considered as a flagrant foul but this one is not?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFnmJgxft_s[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0reaAGvSkAQ[/youtube]

Neither one of these are flagrant's to me but it's hilarious how a dude like Kevin Durant who hasn't won anything in this league gets away with that in a clutch moment but all LeBron does was lower his elbow and gets called for a flagrant. Disgusting

Also i understand that the NBA refs are (Please Use More Appropriate Word). Let's just keep it real here. They're dumb as rocks. But with all the technology we have in the NBA today you honestly can't go back and see when somebody clearly got fouled??? How do you even miss this? DJ Augustin clearly had his hands on LeBron



Or the fact that LeBron gets kicked in the face but yet he gets called for a double technical foul? Wut? Is LeBron a scrub? With all the stuff that people get away with on him, it's hard to tell if he's even the best player in the game
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pq6kCpn64D8[/youtube]

Also i could've swore in today's NBA that going for people's necks over going for the ball is a flagrant. But apparently not
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYJwArukrsM[/youtube]

Funny because as soon as the new commissioner came on, he said he wanted the NBA to compete with the NFL. Hmm i wonder if big name QB's in the NFL like Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, etc. ever got flagged for apologizing

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC7wPIBSVTw&list=UU6cu9vVWCKOw-PUPCvyDM4Q[/youtube]

Also how are you going to compete with the NFL when zebras give techs for this?
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsXkFzFXlh4[/youtube]

It's like you can't show emotion in the NBA anymore. Why is it that this past Tuesday against the Houston Rockets Birdman got a technical for doing want of his signature poses after a block but Joakim Noah can scream, whine & complain all game long and doesn't get ejected??



I'm speaking from a fan of the game's perspective here. I just don't think it's right that guys like Durant, Noah, Harden, etc. get away with so many little things? And on top of that neither of them has won anything

I don't feel like LeBron & Wade should average double digit FT's because at times, i feel like both of them shy away from contact a lot. LeBron hasn't been very aggressive because of his nose being busted & having to play with masks while Wade is dealing with enough injuries as it is. BUT 4 & 7 FTA's (Wade & LeBron) a game compared to 8 & 9 FTA's (Harden & KD) is annoying. Ain't no way in hell that Durant or Harden should be averaging more FTA's a game then LeBron, I'm sorry

I made this thread because not only as a die hard Heat fan, but as a fan of the game i'm frustrated & annoyed. I feel like too many people in the organization right now aren't stepping out to call out this BS. Our organization has been known for being classy & treating everyone like family. So why did our family just sit back today & let Wade get whacked & LeBron get hand checked twice & getting robbed of And 1's (Dunk on Augustin & the late drive in the 4th on Noah) without saying anything? Not once did i see Spo run over to the refs to complain. Spo is a great coach but today was one of those games were you risk some mula to show that we're not going to sit back & tolerate our two top players getting hand checked & whacked without a response. A few weeks ago in the game between the Clippers-OKC Doc Rivers stuck up for Jamal Crawford & flat out told the refs how players on OKC are getting away with numerous hand-checks on Crawford & to stop helping Durant because he's good enough already. After that, OKC defenders got whistled for hand checking Jamal Crawford. All it takes is a voice to make a difference. Thibs uses his voice, Doc uses his voice, Pop uses his voice & hell even the Don Pat Riley used his voice back in his coaching days.

I'm not a Spo hater & i think he's a good coach but today i felt like he doesn't deserve a pass. Not only is LeBron our best player (& NBA's best player) but he's also part of the family & this organization. It's worth it to risk losing money to get better results if you ask me

[heater4life]

Unfortunately,a talent like Lebron James is both a gift and a curse. Hes not going to get his due amount of calls, but he definitely deserves more.

Its sad, as great as he is, the league is still limiting him of greater statistical achievements.