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Dwyane Wade Fined $5000 for flopping in Game 2 of the Finals

Posted: Mon Jun 9, 2014 11:09 pm
by dmvp29
Disgraceful... :nonono:

http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2014/st ... fined-flop

MIAMI -- The flop is having an impact on the playoffs, and it's being caught much more than it was in the regular season.

Miami guard Dwyane Wade became the latest recipient of a postseason flopping fine Monday when the NBA ordered him to give up $5,000 after a review showed he over-exaggerated a foul during Game 2 of the finals that was charged to San Antonio's Manu Ginobili.

And there's an ironic twist -- Ginobili is often considered a master flopper, but he wasn't even warned once about it this season.

"He took a swipe and he hit me," Wade said Monday, before the fine was announced. "It was a late call by the ref, but he called it."

The league saw it a little differently.

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Bob Donnan/USA TODAY SportsDwyane Wade became the latest player to get fined by the NBA for flopping this postseason. Wade's violation was the fifth of the playoffs.

It was the fifth flopping violation of the playoffs, which works out to one in every 17.2 games. The NBA said 35 flops were caught in the regular season, or one in every 35.1 games. Players are not fined in the regular season until their second flop of the year; in the playoffs, every flop is a fine.

"Flopping," Miami guard Shane Battier once said, "is a silent killer."

Well, unless it works.

Wade drew the foul against Ginobili with 4:09 left in the second quarter on Sunday night. Ginobili, who took a big swipe at the ball about 35 feet from the basket, wound up going to the bench with his third foul of the half. Wade went to the line and made the two resulting free throws, since Miami was already in the bonus.

The Heat wound up winning by two points.

"I saw Manu coming out of the corner of my eye to try to steal it so my only thing was to make sure that he didn't steal it," Wade said. "He swiped and he wound up hitting me and the ref called a foul. We move on."

The Heat-Spurs matchup is tied 1-1, with Game 3 in Miami on Tuesday night.

Some of the flops in the playoffs have been almost circuslike acting jobs, including a pair by Indiana guard Lance Stephenson -- the official leaguewide leader in flopping this season with two violations in the regular season and two more in the postseason. He's had to pay $20,000 for those flops, or basically about 2 percent of his season's salary.

For Wade, who's made nearly $19 million in salary this season, the $5,000 was mere pocket change. And situations like that were pointed out last year by now-retired NBA Commissioner David Stern, who said the small fine "isn't enough. You're not going to cause somebody to stop it for $5,000 when the average player's salary is $5.5 million."

Stern added then that anyone who thought the fine would stop the flop is allowing "hope to prevail over reason." So it would be no surprise if tougher flopping penalties were at least discussed when the NBA's competition committee when that group meets this summer.

Heat coach Erik Spoelstra said he's not surprised that the rate goes up in the playoffs, saying Monday that it could be as simple a reason as "more people in the league office watching each possession."

Besides Stephenson and Wade, the other postseason flop fines have been assessed to Indiana's Roy Hibbert and the Spurs' Tiago Splitter. All of those flops were cited in the conference-final round or later.

Indiana's season ended with a third straight playoff loss to the Heat. And not surprisingly, it wouldn't seem like the Pacers are rooting for their conference member this time of year -- a media relations official from East finalists tweeted shortly after the Wade-Ginobili play Sunday that the Heat guard deserved a flopping fine and even made what seemed like a lighthearted plea to the league:

"C'mon NBA, do it for Lance."

Re: Dwyane Wade Fined $5000 for flopping in Game 2 of the Fi

Posted: Mon Jun 9, 2014 11:14 pm
by dmvp29
People hate the Heat as is. Now everyone will attach a ****ing asterisk to game 2 because Wade flopped to get 2 free throws (which he made) and the Heat only won by 2.

Re: Dwyane Wade Fined $5000 for flopping in Game 2 of the Fi

Posted: Mon Jun 9, 2014 11:49 pm
by kib0yski
I hope any of the Spurs players should be fined also.


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Re: Dwyane Wade Fined $5000 for flopping in Game 2 of the Fi

Posted: Mon Jun 9, 2014 11:49 pm
by Alleyooops
He earned that fine, no doubt about it. But the Spurs have been flopping around big time and deserve some fines too.

Re: Dwyane Wade Fined $5000 for flopping in Game 2 of the Fi

Posted: Mon Jun 9, 2014 11:50 pm
by deedsy
and why aren't any Spurs players being fined?

Re: Dwyane Wade Fined $5000 for flopping in Game 2 of the Fi

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 12:43 am
by Darkstar
deedsy wrote:and why aren't any Spurs players being fined?


Because then it'd be fair? Obviously they can't have that.

Re: Dwyane Wade Fined $5000 for flopping in Game 2 of the Fi

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 1:43 am
by Jon Connor
Clear as day flop but that wasnt even the worst flop of the game.

Ginobilis fine (or fines) are where exactly? I saw videos of atleast 2 egregious Manu flops

Splitters fine is where? He acted like Bron cracked him with all his might and flew on the floor

Re: Dwyane Wade Fined $5000 for flopping in Game 2 of the Fi

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 1:57 am
by RJM
No, it was well-deserved. That was a pretty egregious flop. Wade earned that fine.

Re: Dwyane Wade Fined $5000 for flopping in Game 2 of the Fi

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 2:10 am
by Ratchet_Rio
Don't worry about why everyone else isn't getting fined, take ownership of our guys. He flopped, he got fined, now lets get over it. Water under the bridge.

Re: Dwyane Wade Fined $5000 for flopping in Game 2 of the Fi

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 2:16 pm
by king_james_vers
Ratchet_Rio wrote:Don't worry about why everyone else isn't getting fined, take ownership of our guys. He flopped, he got fined, now lets get over it. Water under the bridge.

Well said.

Even if Manu should've been fined (which is probably should have been), that doesn't change the fact that Wade's was egregiously bad.

Re: Dwyane Wade Fined $5000 for flopping in Game 2 of the Fi

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 3:19 pm
by DWadeno3
Ratchet_Rio wrote:Don't worry about why everyone else isn't getting fined, take ownership of our guys. He flopped, he got fined, now lets get over it. Water under the bridge.


This. He flopped, he has to pay for it, nothing else.

Re: Dwyane Wade Fined $5000 for flopping in Game 2 of the Fi

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 3:26 pm
by DivineFury
dmvp29 wrote:People hate the Heat as is. Now everyone will attach a ****ing asterisk to game 2 because Wade flopped to get 2 free throws (which he made) and the Heat only won by 2.


You will have people talking about "what if's" all day. Some guy was saying if Spurs made their free throws they win game 2. Well it's not really that simple. One could just as easily say well if Wade makes 2 more shots we still win by 2.

There will always be whiners who will claim luck or refs gave us something. Truth is Spurs had a close game at home, and couldn't get jack in the final minutes to win.

Re: Dwyane Wade Fined $5000 for flopping in Game 2 of the Fi

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 3:44 pm
by ThereIsNoSpork
Ginobli hasnt been warned all year? :lol: he flops every game

Re: Dwyane Wade Fined $5000 for flopping in Game 2 of the Fi

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 4:07 pm
by Hoopz Afrik
*shrugs* #VivaLaHEAT

Re: Dwyane Wade Fined $5000 for flopping in Game 2 of the Fi

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 4:56 pm
by Heat3
What is disgusting is the reaction. It is as absurd as there action to Lebron cramping up. What else do the haters have to latch on to?

Re: Dwyane Wade Fined $5000 for flopping in Game 2 of the Fi

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 6:13 pm
by Tuff Gong
It is absolutely criminal that Manu wasn't fined hundreds of thousands of dollars for his multiple flops in just the fourth quarter alone.

Re: Dwyane Wade Fined $5000 for flopping in Game 2 of the Fi

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 6:18 pm
by dr3am
Tuff Gong wrote:It is absolutely criminal that Manu wasn't fined hundreds of thousands of dollars for his multiple flops in just the fourth quarter alone.

It is absolutely criminal that you constantly bitch on Game Threads

Re: Dwyane Wade Fined $5000 for flopping in Game 2 of the Fi

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 11:15 pm
by narmerguy
These are triflings, who cares? He flopped, he paid the price, let's win some games.

Re: Dwyane Wade Fined $5000 for flopping in Game 2 of the Fi

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 11:18 pm
by DivineFury
wm3 wrote:
Tuff Gong wrote:It is absolutely criminal that Manu wasn't fined hundreds of thousands of dollars for his multiple flops in just the fourth quarter alone.

It is absolutely criminal that you constantly bitch on Game Threads


I got a genuine lol out of this.

Re: Dwyane Wade Fined $5000 for flopping in Game 2 of the Fi

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 5:50 am
by mswenson
was manu fined for that play where he flopped out of bounds without any contact to get freethrows? chalmers does this all the time and they call out on chalmers every time