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Larry Sanders Vs Brook Lopez

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 11:23 pm
by twix2500
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Larry Sanders and Brook Lopez coming trade deadline should be the hottest topics in in the upcoming trading deadline. Both have now been rumored to be on the trading block.
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Two players that have been on the Heat radar. Its not a question that the Heat needs either talent. Both are big men with questions about their focus on the game, but each brings something different to the on the court that the Heat need. Sanders is an elite defensive player, will have nights that he puts up triple doubles in pts, rebounds and blocks. Lopez has the talent to put points on the board, get to the foul line and cause major mismatches with his size. This should be a major opportunity for the Heat to grab a talent when their stock are at their lowest. Neither are number one guys but they can be a major impact as a third piece that could immediately have an impact. But who would you take that chance on? Both will make a major hit on the salary cap room for 2016. Sanders would make the Heat a better defensive team, currently ranked 27th in defensive efficiency. Lopez would make the Heat a better offensive team especially in the halfcourt, which currently ranked 19 in offensive efficiency. Lopez height alone will also improve Miami defense.

What may it take to obtain these bigs. Bigs usually never come cheap but Larry Sanders might be had for very little, it may not even require a player like Deng to obtain him. Larry Sanders off the court issues have deteriorated his trade value. Its one thing to miss game because injuries but Sanders has miss games because of his behavior (flagrant fouls, bar fights, and drugs). His latest behavioral mishap has remained a mystery. The positive is you know he can play, and he is in NBA shape. You know what your going to get on the court with Sanders. A shot blocker, a rebounder, length and quickness. He can defend any big, PF or C, in the NBA. He can be that lock down cornerback in the NFL, that you can leave on an island.

Brook Lopez will not come cheap as Sanders, and may take Deng and more to obtain him. Offensive Bigs with size never are cheap. But is he worth it? We all know he has talent, but we all say he should be better. He will have those games every once and while that says he is a dominate big. Then he will disappear in a Roy Hibbert fashion. His contract is coming to an end but that potential is still looming and will demand a big pay day. The rarity makes his market high, but his games makes you wonder is he worth it. He also has a history of being injured. Its always something, a ankle, foot, should etc. You can at least say its not a chronic injury that you can pretty assume he going to miss games for. But his injuries are unpredictably predictable lol. He reminds me of Mike Miller, you know there is a chance he going to be injured but not you dont know what, you can even place a bet in las vegas what body part is going to break.

So Heat fans who would you rather take a chance on? Would you take Brook Lopez who may take half the team even our youth to trade for or Larry Sanders on South Beach.

Re: Larry Sanders Vs Brook Lopez

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 11:28 pm
by goodboy
I'd take Sanders all day everyday, Brook is WAY too injury prone.

Re: Larry Sanders Vs Brook Lopez

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 11:29 pm
by DefenseWins
Wtf? Brook Lopez?

Why is this team looking into soft guys man

We don't need him and not for thag contract. Too injury prone

We need Heat type players, not just anyone

It's too bad Sanders is having some issues, or else is would take him

Re: Larry Sanders Vs Brook Lopez

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 11:29 pm
by ReturnofMVP3
One who doesn't have heart for the game, another who doesn't usually rebound/has more injury problems than Wade. I'd take neither.

Re: Larry Sanders Vs Brook Lopez

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 11:29 pm
by RexBoyWonder
One has a chronic leg injury, the other a chronic head injury.

One is a top offensive player, the other is purely a defensive player.

Would you rather gamble on health or on mentality?

Really not sure. Much rather just get a good PG and play Whiteside at C.

Re: Larry Sanders Vs Brook Lopez

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 11:40 pm
by twix2500
RexBoyWonder wrote:One has a chronic leg injury, the other a chronic head injury.

One is a top offensive player, the other is purely a defensive player.

Would you rather gamble on health or on mentality?

Really not sure. Much rather just get a good PG and play Whiteside at C.


LOL you love you some Whiteside and I knew you was going to say that lol.

Re: Larry Sanders Vs Brook Lopez

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 12:20 am
by dancing2thabeet
I think Sanders is lesser of the two evils.

Re: Larry Sanders Vs Brook Lopez

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 2:07 pm
by SlowPaced
Don't want either. I'd rather use our assets to land a proper PG.

Re: Larry Sanders Vs Brook Lopez

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 12:08 am
by DayofMourning
Can anybody explain to me the process of a player being waived? Once the player clears waivers can the player go to any team they wish? I wonder if there is a possibility this happens to Sanders?

Re: Larry Sanders Vs Brook Lopez

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 12:55 am
by puppa bear
DayofMourning wrote:Can anybody explain to me the process of a player being waived? Once the player clears waivers can the player go to any team they wish? I wonder if there is a possibility this happens to Sanders?


Essentially, the team is saying that they will buy out the player, and extinguish their responsibilities to each other. During the waiver process, teams with the required space (or exceptions) can claim the player and assume responsibility for the contract. Essentially the waiver process is the NBA saying "anyone want this?"

Once the player clears waivers their contractual responsibilities to play for the club that waived him are extinguished. At this point the player is deemed an unrestricted free agent, and is free to sign with the club of their choosing. If they were traded then waived the usual requisition restrictions apply for the team trading the player (2 months, or until the end of contract, which ever is shorter).

So yeah, if Sanders gets waived we can sign him as a minimum player, or with the DPE.

My thought is that it would be better to pursue a trade for Sanders and Knight, that includes Napier (Napier/Bird/Chalmers works, addin our 2017 pick & Bucks could be interested). I know Riley has his 2016 plan, but if we are going to compete in the meantime a starting 5 of Knight/Wade/Deng/Bosh/Whiteside with Cole/Ennis/McBob/Sanders off the bench is a great core!

Re: Larry Sanders Vs Brook Lopez

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 2:18 am
by Altered_Beast
SlowPaced wrote:Don't want either. I'd rather use our assets to land a proper PG.

we can just play napier/tj and get sanders which would make us one of the premier front courts in the nba with deng/bosh/whiteside/birdman/sanders and mcbob next season

Re: Larry Sanders Vs Brook Lopez

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 2:43 am
by DayofMourning
Altered_Beast wrote:
SlowPaced wrote:Don't want either. I'd rather use our assets to land a proper PG.

we can just play napier/tj and get sanders which would make us one of the premier front courts in the nba with deng/bosh/whiteside/birdman/sanders and mcbob next season


Wouldn't that be some karma? Lebron leaves Cleveland and they get 3 of the next 4 top picks in the draft. Lebron leaves Miami and the Heat somehow land two high quality centers out of nowhere. Would be too good to be true.

Re: Larry Sanders Vs Brook Lopez

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:18 am
by RexBoyWonder
With the way Whiteside is playing, dare I say...we don't even need Sanders. Bird is a decent backup too.

We need a good PG, Badly.

Re: Larry Sanders Vs Brook Lopez

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:34 pm
by contract
twix2500 wrote:So Heat fans who would you rather take a chance on?

Whiteside

I'm not interested in buying lemons at caviar prices.

Re: Larry Sanders Vs Brook Lopez

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:36 pm
by contract
DefenseWins wrote:Wtf? Brook Lopez?

Why is this team looking into soft guys man

And he can't even shoot the 3. :lol:

Re: Larry Sanders Vs Brook Lopez

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:47 pm
by DefenseWins
RexBoyWonder wrote:With the way Whiteside is playing, dare I say...we don't even need Sanders. Bird is a decent backup too.

We need a good PG, Badly.



Who would have thought our C rotation is set and livable

Now we don't have **** play makers ugh

Heck our back up SF (cause they don't trust Ennis enough and Ennis is also scared to f up and ends up f'ing up anyway) and back up PF are issues too, well with McBob out.

This roster was set to depend on someone and when we depend on them their lack of talent shows smh, or how washed up they are lol