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Post#1 » by RexBoyWonder » Tue Feb 3, 2015 10:16 pm

Wade : A-

Haters and doubters said He's done, He'll have a massive decline without Lebron. Well, when healthy he's been mostly great. Did get hurt abiut too much so far but as long as he'll be healthy in money time, still top notch SG in the league.

Bosh : B

Started off beasting, then lost some rhythm and lately been floating around too much. Stats are very good but could be expected to be a bit more consistent.

Rio : C-


Worst shooting season of career, 27 YO and still way too inconsistent. Had some nice game when played as a SG, but clearly not a long term starter without Lebron around.

Deng : B+


Solid. Just overall solid. Gives it his all, despite being limited offensively. Brings a defensive edge we need.

Cole : F

Was never really a good player by any statistical indicator, but really regressed this year. Very bad shooting, Not enough positive aspects in his game.

Bird : D+

Lost a step or 2. sometimes looks too old, not as effective as in years past. Got overpaid this offseason due to past performance and currently looks just that - overpaid.

Granger : F

The only thing he really brings to the table now days is his shooting, but he's shooting below 35% from 3. So that's not good enough to cover his lack of defense, energy and mobility.

Williams : C

Gets paid the vet minimum, so shouldn't expect too much. Started off really hot but as time goes by it's clear his shooting is the only thing he does well.

Mcbob : N/A due to injury.

UD : Player/Coach.

Does what he can, he's not around for his on court contribution although can still give spot minutes.

Ennis : C-

Inconsistent like most rookies, but brings good energy, defends and looks more conferrable lately. Expectations seem too have been a bit too high.

Napier : D

Had a very nice November but something went wrong after that. D-league, then struggling hard after he returned. Looks overwhelmed now days.

Whiteside : A+

No need to explain. One of the biggest discoveries in recent NBA memory.

TJ : N/A. Too soon to really tell.

J-Ham : same. 250 minutes played is not enough of a sample size IMO.

SPO : C-

Clear for most fans he's not helping and sometimes hurting us. Weird rotations, VERY slow adjustments, just doesn't seem to get the best out of this roster. Injuries are a real factor that comes to his defense, but it's not enough of an excuse. Might have a turned a corner lately with the youth movement, better late then never.

Riley : C

A couple of months ago it looked like an F. But Whiteside (and TJ) really saved an otherwise horrible summer of team-building. Lebron blindsiding him is a factor that comes to his defense, But our PG/SG situation is totally on him. Without Whiteside it would've looked ALOT worse.


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Post#2 » by Zasterror » Tue Feb 3, 2015 11:03 pm

Wade: B+

Still Top 3 SG in the league when healthy. But the "when healthy" part keeps him and us as a team from achieving his/our full potential. His defense has decline noticeably as well.

Bosh: B

Still a Top PF and his load will be much easier now that the emergence of Whiteside is legit but he can be frustratingly inconsistent on both ends of the court.

Deng: B-

Like Bosh, he can be very inconsistent. But when he has a good/great game, the chances of us winning improves tenfold. Our best perimeter defender and 2nd best off-ball player (Wade).

Whiteside: B (can definitely improve to "A" if he stays consistent)

Quickly becoming our most valuable player (hell, if we equate Wade's injury woes, he may very well be). Literally fell in our laps, and is becoming one of the league's best Centers.

Rio: D+

For such a great start in the beginning of the season to what he's been producing now is nothing short of amazing for all of the bad reasons. He is what he is. His poor BBIQ is the most frustrating thing I've seen as a Heat fan for years. At least compared with Cole, I can see him breaking out of his shooting slump soon...lol I couldn't say that with a straight face

Cole: F

Terrible. Absolutely terrible. Even his strengths can be described as masked weaknesses. I was done with him a long time ago.

Birdman: C+

I think he is actually having a decent year for us and when he is healthy he is a legit backup Center. Injuries clipped his wings this season but it is to be expected for someone damn near 40.

Ennis: C-

Has tremendous upside but hasn't really shown it at all this season. He has clear flaws but they can be cleaned up with a summer or two. He can definitely be a future consistent rotational player, but he has to be more assertive. He's athletic as hell but doesn't move off ball enough to get opportunities at the rim, a good 3-point shooter but only attempts them like once or twice (and when he misses, he moves away from it and becomes a non-factor offensively). Some of this is Spo's fault for not playing him enough earlier or correctly. I got hopes for this kid.

Haslem: D-

I appreciate his toughness and effort but he is useless at this point of his career. Love ya UD but it is what it is.

Granger: D

No quickness, no speed, shaky handles, suspect defensively, disappointing strength, and poor finishing ability. Good stroke but has been madly inconsistent from 3. More often than not, he is useless.

Shawne: D+

He plays with effort and can get hot from 3 but I haven't seen it in months. He is a marginally more athletic version of Granger. That's not good at all.

Shabazz: C-

Hasn't really given the fair shake he deserves from Spo but it's becoming more evident that he is still not ready yet. Great potential but he is forever mitigated from his small stature. His passing ability and attitude has all of the makings of a starting PG but he has to work ALOT on his weaknesses. Like Ennis, I am optimistic with him.

J-Ham: F

Straight garbage. I don't like his game AT ALL for a big man.

TJ: N/A

Super small sample size but I REALLY like what I see from him. I wasn't sold on him originally because of his size but he plays the game the right way, he has a great demeanor, and he has a great approach to the game....so far.

Coach Spo: C-

I called for his head multiple times this season, most of which was justified. He was about to get a D from me but I changed my mind when I start to see him finally buying into the youth movement right now (even though it was by necessity). I will never forgive for the 8+ losses he single-handily got us due to his biggest weakness: stubbornness.

I really think we have the most dead-weight out of any team this season.
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Post#3 » by Heat_Fan_87 » Tue Feb 3, 2015 11:06 pm

No one gets an A other than whiteside.

Actually, other than whiteside, i would only have two cattegories.

Decent, and terrible.

Deng and bosh and wade have been decent. Everyone else has been terrible.

Injuries have affected us a lot, but ****. We are one hell of an underachieving team. From the coaches to the scrubs at the end of our bench,
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Post#4 » by goodboy » Tue Feb 3, 2015 11:16 pm

Wade: A- (Can't prevent injuries, just something out of your hands, though lack of PG production will lead to that. Aside from that he's a top 2 SG in the league.)

Bosh: B- (inconsistent, needs to find his groove back, might be fatigue playing a huge factor for him as well, he was a A, sinking down, hopefully picks it up again)

Deng: B- (Not sure where to begin, when he's on, he's really on... we win games, easily. Also lack of inconsistently as well)

Rio: C (been doing better lately ever since the emergence of Whiteside)

Ennis/Nap = C (still rooks, need more playing time, but given the minutes, they produce good for rooks)

Bird: B- (He had a slow start, also was injured, since the injury he's been getting those boards and decent amount of points as well for his production, though probably closer to C+ than a B-, though I love Bird)

Spo/Cole/Granger/Williams/Jham = all F's.

The only deserving A+ Is Whiteside.

UD I won't score.

Tyler is also N/A along with McBob.
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Post#5 » by RexBoyWonder » Tue Feb 3, 2015 11:32 pm

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Whiteside: B (can definitely improve to "A" if he stays consistent)

Quickly becoming our most valuable player (hell, if we equate Wade's injury woes, he may very well be). Literally fell in our laps, and is becoming one of the league's best Centers.



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Post#6 » by Slot Machine » Tue Feb 3, 2015 11:37 pm

Wade: B-

I've actually loved the way Wade has played for the most part but as per usual, the health problems have derailed what would otherwise be a great season. He's gone hero-ball a bit too much in the final minutes but otherwise, don't have much complaints other than health.

Bosh: C

Not good enough at all. The rebounding, especially pre-Whiteside was inexcusable. We had no other bigs to grab boards, he should have easily had 10 a game. On offense, he hasn't been assertive enough. With Wade out, we need him to be a high-volume scorer and he just doesn't or can't do that anymore. His effort on defense has slipped a little since he has more responsibility on offense but the offense hasn't been quite good enough to offset that. Just really disappointed with his play. We need him to be someone we can feed when we need a bucket and he hasn't been that.

Chalmers: C

It's become clear he's way overtaxed on offense. Without Wade, he's our only other creator and he's just not cut out for that role. I've liked the foul drawing ability and he's shown impressive talent in carrying the offense for quarters or halves at a time but his lows are also really low, combined with the typical Wario turnovers. The 3-point shooting HAS to improve.

Deng: B

More or less what I expected. Better defender than I thought he was at this stage of his career. Improved 3-point shooting, albeit on low volume, a little less shot-creation ability than I thought. Disappears a little bit too often but we need a wing stopper and he has been that.

Cole: F

Not even close to good enough.

Birdman: C-

Wasn't a fan of the contract since the signing and didn't really want him back. He's old, not his fault, but he's pretty much a 5th big at this point.

Whiteside: A+

Everything I could have asked for and more.

Granger: C-

Wouldn't be a bad 10th man. He's extremely hot or extremely cold generally and his drives into traffic are Ray Allen-tier. He's a spot-up shooter now with poor wing defense and too small to play the 4.

Williams: C

Again, wouldn't be bad as a deep bench player but he's a spot-up shooter with no real position that doesn't rebound. His contract isn't bad and he's a good / sometimes great 3-point shooter. That's the extent of his skills.

Ennis: C-

Worse than I thought he would be. Needs to become a far better shooter than he currently is. He shows flashes but other than that, he's been non-existent.

Napier: D+

He was good before the D-League stint but has since seemingly lost all the confidence and moves he used to have. I think he can become good but I'm beginning to doubt it will be this year.

Hamilton: F(OH)

Trash.

Haslem: D

He should be the 15th man.

McRoberts: INC.

Started to show the skillset he utilized in Charlotte. Hopefully he comes back good as new next season.

Spoelstra: D+

Injuries have hurt but this team has been limited by some extreemly poor coaching decisions.
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Post#7 » by eddieheatfan » Tue Feb 3, 2015 11:44 pm

Slot Machine wrote:Wade: B-

I've actually loved the way Wade has played for the most part but as per usual, the health problems have derailed what would otherwise be a great season. He's gone hero-ball a bit too much in the final minutes but otherwise, don't have much complaints other than health.

Bosh: C

Not good enough at all. The rebounding, especially pre-Whiteside was inexcusable. We had no other bigs to grab boards, he should have easily had 10 a game. On offense, he hasn't been assertive enough. With Wade out, we need him to be a high-volume scorer and he just doesn't or can't do that anymore. His effort on defense has slipped a little since he has more responsibility on offense but the offense hasn't been quite good enough to offset that. Just really disappointed with his play. We need him to be someone we can feed when we need a bucket and he hasn't been that.

Chalmers: C

It's become clear he's way overtaxed on offense. Without Wade, he's our only other creator and he's just not cut out for that role. I've liked the foul drawing ability and he's shown impressive talent in carrying the offense for quarters or halves at a time but his lows are also really low, combined with the typical Wario turnovers. The 3-point shooting HAS to improve.

Deng: B

More or less what I expected. Better defender than I thought he was at this stage of his career. Improved 3-point shooting, albeit on low volume, a little less shot-creation ability than I thought. Disappears a little bit too often but we need a wing stopper and he has been that.

Cole: F

Not even close to good enough.

Birdman: C-

Wasn't a fan of the contract since the signing and didn't really want him back. He's old, not his fault, but he's pretty much a 5th big at this point.

Whiteside: A+

Everything I could have asked for and more.

Granger: C-

Wouldn't be a bad 10th man. He's extremely hot or extremely cold generally and his drives into traffic are Ray Allen-tier. He's a spot-up shooter now with poor wing defense and too small to play the 4.

Williams: C

Again, wouldn't be bad as a deep bench player but he's a spot-up shooter with no real position that doesn't rebound. His contract isn't bad and he's a good / sometimes great 3-point shooter. That's the extent of his skills.

Ennis: C-

Worse than I thought he would be. Needs to become a far better shooter than he currently is. He shows flashes but other than that, he's been non-existent.

Napier: D+

He was good before the D-League stint but has since seemingly lost all the confidence and moves he used to have. I think he can become good but I'm beginning to doubt it will be this year.

Hamilton: F(OH)

Trash.

Haslem: D

He should be the 15th man.

McRoberts: INC.

Started to show the skillset he utilized in Charlotte. Hopefully he comes back good as new next season.

Spoelstra: D+

Injuries have hurt but this team has been limited by some extreemly poor coaching decisions.
this assessment is the most spot on that i have seen so far.though,i would lower the grade on wade and lower the grade of bosh because lets be honest both players have their good moments but they have had more bad ones throughout the season so far and our record just shows.
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Post#8 » by Sign5 » Wed Feb 4, 2015 2:42 am

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Slot Machine wrote:Wade: B-

I've actually loved the way Wade has played for the most part but as per usual, the health problems have derailed what would otherwise be a great season. He's gone hero-ball a bit too much in the final minutes but otherwise, don't have much complaints other than health.

Bosh: C

Not good enough at all. The rebounding, especially pre-Whiteside was inexcusable. We had no other bigs to grab boards, he should have easily had 10 a game. On offense, he hasn't been assertive enough. With Wade out, we need him to be a high-volume scorer and he just doesn't or can't do that anymore. His effort on defense has slipped a little since he has more responsibility on offense but the offense hasn't been quite good enough to offset that. Just really disappointed with his play. We need him to be someone we can feed when we need a bucket and he hasn't been that.

Chalmers: C

It's become clear he's way overtaxed on offense. Without Wade, he's our only other creator and he's just not cut out for that role. I've liked the foul drawing ability and he's shown impressive talent in carrying the offense for quarters or halves at a time but his lows are also really low, combined with the typical Wario turnovers. The 3-point shooting HAS to improve.

Deng: B

More or less what I expected. Better defender than I thought he was at this stage of his career. Improved 3-point shooting, albeit on low volume, a little less shot-creation ability than I thought. Disappears a little bit too often but we need a wing stopper and he has been that.

Cole: F

Not even close to good enough.

Birdman: C-

Wasn't a fan of the contract since the signing and didn't really want him back. He's old, not his fault, but he's pretty much a 5th big at this point.

Whiteside: A+

Everything I could have asked for and more.

Granger: C-

Wouldn't be a bad 10th man. He's extremely hot or extremely cold generally and his drives into traffic are Ray Allen-tier. He's a spot-up shooter now with poor wing defense and too small to play the 4.

Williams: C

Again, wouldn't be bad as a deep bench player but he's a spot-up shooter with no real position that doesn't rebound. His contract isn't bad and he's a good / sometimes great 3-point shooter. That's the extent of his skills.

Ennis: C-

Worse than I thought he would be. Needs to become a far better shooter than he currently is. He shows flashes but other than that, he's been non-existent.

Napier: D+

He was good before the D-League stint but has since seemingly lost all the confidence and moves he used to have. I think he can become good but I'm beginning to doubt it will be this year.

Hamilton: F(OH)

Trash.

Haslem: D

He should be the 15th man.

McRoberts: INC.

Started to show the skillset he utilized in Charlotte. Hopefully he comes back good as new next season.

Spoelstra: D+

Injuries have hurt but this team has been limited by some extreemly poor coaching decisions.
this assessment is the most spot on that i have seen so far.though,i would lower the grade on wade and lower the grade of bosh because lets be honest both players have their good moments but they have had more bad ones throughout the season so far and our record just shows.

No Wade hasn't. He's been stellar besides his last 5 games outside of Chicago. :crazy:

We have the record we have today because of injuries, period.
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Post#9 » by HEYMANQueHoraEs » Wed Feb 4, 2015 3:10 am

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Post#10 » by CoolD » Wed Feb 4, 2015 3:13 am

Hassam A-= I like almost everything, but he has to adjust to not getting bad fouls, some fouls he picks up I think he is a victim of just being big, and NBA reefing is geared to favor the little guy, but others he does get caught being too aggressive, but I guess it comes with some his great defense.

Wade=Gets B, mostly do to injuries, and a couple games, which he looked like he was disinterested and almost playing without energy.

Bosh = B-, he has some very good stretches, he started with A+ at the beginning of the year, but then he has had too many C performances.

Deng gets a B-, he has being overall steady, doesn't force too much, and does many times some of the small things.

Bird a C= He started pretty bad the season, he started the first month on F, then he had a descent stretch after he came back from injury, many B performances, but as of late, he is looking more like a D player.(Hopefully gets back to B mode, instead of D mode)

Ennis gets a C-, with the limited time, he plays very intense defense, though he is close to start falling to D, if he keeps having too many non factor games, but overall, in his limited role, he usually puts decent efforts on the defensive end, and can make a play or two, that could impact the game.

Granger a C-, I think considering his limited role, he has played average, people might think he is playing horrible, but I think he is playing okay for his role.

Shawnee I give him a D, has had a couple nights his shots goes in, he gets a couple B's, but he also has many F's.

Rio gets a D, many dumb bonehead plays,, but he has had some B's, that has saved him from a full failing grade.

Haslem a F, not enough impact in almost every game(though I feel bad very limited playing time)

Cole an F, not enough impact in almost every game

Shabbaz and F, not enough impact in almost every game

SPO, a big fat zero, no impact in almost every game.

Ham an F too.

And for Tyler in the limited minutes gets a D, but he is still early, he can easily raised his grade with a couple decent performances.
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Post#12 » by Rock Hardy » Wed Feb 4, 2015 3:40 am

All I'll say is I rate Bosh higher than Wade for two reasons.

1. He's been the better and more consistent defender.
2. He's played more games, which means he's been able to contribute more.

I just wanted to throw some support for him since I don't think people appreciate his efforts enough. He's played through a few injuries we never knew about too.
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Post#13 » by DefenseWins » Wed Feb 4, 2015 5:01 am

Rock Hardy wrote:All I'll say is I rate Bosh higher than Wade for two reasons.

1. He's been the better and more consistent defender.
2. He's played more games, which means he's been able to contribute more.

I just wanted to throw some support for him since I don't think people appreciate his efforts enough. He's played through a few injuries we never knew about too.



Whiteside, Bosh and Wade deserve A+'s because this team would be **** without them.

I was giving Bosh some heat cause he has sucked past few games but the reality is even if he was out we would suck EVEN MORE.
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Post#14 » by mh_3 » Wed Feb 4, 2015 7:07 am

Coach Spoelstra: B

Despite some questionable rotations here and there, he hasn't had much to work with throughout the season with injuries and lack of depth.

Dwyane Wade: B

Would be an A if he was healthy. When playing, he looks like a Top 10 player still.

Chris Bosh: B

For the most part he's been decent. Some bad games, some great. Hurts him to have no playmakers around him with Wade out.

Hassan Whiteside: A

Best part of the season. Hopefully he keeps this up, but for now there's no signs of him stopping.

Luol Deng: B

Very solid, he's a favorite of mine. Unfortunately, he's a third option at this point of his career that needs to be the second option most of the time with Wade out. Also a lot of minor injuries for 2-6 game stretches, but when on floor is very valuable to this team, offensively and defensively.

Mario Chalmers: D

Inconsistent as hell as usual. Done most of his damage when Wade was out but even now he's still looking for his shot and has been pretty bad for LONG stretches.

Chris Andersen: B

He's actually been very solid for the minutes he's given. Whiteside's emergence was a God send for Bird too cause he doesn't need to play heavy minutes. Allows for him to come in and go all out.

Norris Cole: F

LOL.

Shabazz Napier: D

Rookie mistakes and in and out of the lineup has seem to take away his confidence. Doesn't even look for his shot anymore. But every now and then he'll show something that makes you hope so hard.

James Ennis: C

Considering he's still raw, he's a development project. But when he's in he brings energy. Sometimes can seem to disappear but again, he's not there yet. Has had some pretty good games.

Danny Granger: F

Despite the once-in-a-blue-moon game where he goes for 4-6 threes, he's been awful. Didn't think he'd be THIS bad but every time he dribbles more than twice I expect for him to cough it up. Defensive side is even worse.

Shawne Williams: D

Funny I give Shawne a D seeing that that's his major downfall. It's too bad cause if it weren't for his atrocious defense he'd get decent minutes and Miami would have a three point threat.

Anyone else hasn't had much of an impact to be graded fairly.
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Post#15 » by RexBoyWonder » Wed Feb 4, 2015 3:23 pm

Watching Napier play 15 minutes last night and NOT EVEN ATTEMPTING A SINGLE SHOT - I'm changing my Spo grade to F.

Napier had multiple good games THIS SEASON. IT HAPPEND. Now he looks broken, lost, confidence shot. A normal coach helps his rookies, makes them more confident, not less. A normal coach settles for a god damn rotation by **** February. Spo is **** lost and too full of himself to admit it.

This Coach is our second worst problem after lack of guard talent.
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Post#16 » by IggieCC » Wed Feb 4, 2015 4:53 pm

I can't give Wade or Bosh any more than B... they are B. We are 21-27.
They are the two of the highest paid players on the team. Grades should be curved. They might have a million reasons that prevent them from taking this team to another level.. but 21-27???.. their nice stats aren't good enough for earning them anywhere close to an A IMO.

Hassan A++++
Deng B+
Bench D
PGs ASS-
Coach SPO-
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Post#17 » by GameTime_3 » Wed Feb 4, 2015 5:04 pm

Wade : B-
When healthy, he has been great! But thats the key, he can't.....Still elite when on the floor but we need more from him.

Bosh : B

Rio : C-

Worst shooting season of career and only shoots. Very bad PG, decent SG. Once again, our PG are either not PG or they suck!

Deng : B+

Solid. Does nothign special, doesn't do anything bad. GREAT player for a GREAT team. But on this team he is what he is.

Cole : F

WOW! What can't I say about how bad he is. This guy either really wants to get out of Miami and is trying to suck or he is out of the league in a year. The dude can't do anything right!!

Bird : C
Bird is showing his age at the moment and Spo has over used him at time. Bird trys but his legs aren't the same anymore.

Granger : D

Granger has shown momments of being a decent player but his dribble is terrible, he can't pass and on D, he can't defend his shadow. I was hoping for this guy to come around but it seems, everyone was right about his knee's. They are shot...

Williams : C

Gets paid the vet minimum and hits 3's. Thats all...

Mcbob : N/A due to injury.

UD : Player/Coach.

Ennis : C-

Good energy guy but his shot has been off. Like alot of players, the only way Ennis makes an impact is if he had a PG/Playermaker who can get him the ball in his spots. Good long term piece on a contender but on a team like this one, he just looks like another player.

Napier : D-

Seems to be lost on both sides of the court. Came with with swag and after some D-League assignments and benching, he has no swag left. Napier right now looks like a scared PG.

Whiteside : A+

Really? really? The dude is on a 2 yr min deal and is easily our BEST long Term player! Which is crazy! We hit the lottery without tanking...


SPO : F+

Terrible rotations, No Offensive Game Plan outside of ISO and P&R with a Hand off at the top of the key, VERY slow adjustments and year after year, he just doesn't seem to get the best out of this roster. This roster is far from GREAT but he clearly hasn't helped it with his coaching this year.

Riley : C+

Looking at how he ended up getting us some talent after LBJ left, I can't give him below a C+. He found Whiteside when no one wanted him. But he MUST find a way to upgrade the PG position. Its the worst I've ever seen! Every team with a half way decent PG, kills us. We make DJ Augustine look like Chris Paul.
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Post#18 » by Heat_team02 » Wed Feb 4, 2015 7:27 pm

Personal Fouls

Mario Chalmers 150
Shawne Williams 116
Norris Cole 70

Assists

Mario Chalmers 204
Dwyane Wade 188
Norris Cole 147
Napier 84

Turnovers

Dwyane Wade 117
Mario Chalmers 112
Chris Bosh 87

Team Steals
Nov 123 / Dec 152 / Jan 85
Team Assists
Nov 313 / Dec 319 / Jan 263
Team Points
Nov 1434 / Dec 1584 / Jan 1137

Teams they have struggled scoring on;

Lakers 78
Nuggets 82
Blazers 83
Rockets 85 - 2 games averaged
NY & OKC 86
Bobcats 86.3 in 3 games average
Pacers 86.3 in 3 games average
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Post#19 » by Sgt P » Wed Feb 4, 2015 8:47 pm

(F+++) + Whiteside = F
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Post#20 » by DefenseWins » Wed Feb 4, 2015 11:13 pm

RexBoyWonder wrote:Watching Napier play 15 minutes last night and NOT EVEN ATTEMPTING A SINGLE SHOT - I'm changing my Spo grade to F.

Napier had multiple good games THIS SEASON. IT HAPPEND. Now he looks broken, lost, confidence shot. A normal coach helps his rookies, makes them more confident, not less. A normal coach settles for a god damn rotation by **** February. Spo is **** lost and too full of himself to admit it.

This Coach is our second worst problem after lack of guard talent.


http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miam ... story.html

lmao... says you can't compare UCONN Napier to Heat Napier, college level to nba level. This dude is changing his whole game and Napier is trying to adjust and its sucking. Talk about putting your players into a position to succeed. :roll:

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