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Re: Summer League & Undrafted Guys - Summer 2015

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 1:31 pm
by HIF
gom wrote:I think the big problem with Shabazz is that he sucks coming off the bench. He needs to lead the team and he is destined to play behind Goran, so there might be a problem with him finding success.

So, no love for Quincy Miller? I really think we should give him a chance. He can be a good backup forward. He's 6'10" with a 7'2" wingspan.


Napier couldn't lead a team with Wade and Bosh in it.

I'm not sure he could lead a piss-up in a brewery.

Summer League 2015 - Volume II

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 2:43 pm
by heat4life
Let's go!

Re: Summer League 2015 - Volume II

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 3:20 pm
by deedsy
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvMKCXrRi2U[/youtube]

Re: Summer League 2015 - Volume II

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 3:50 pm
by HIF
deedsy wrote:[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvMKCXrRi2U[/youtube]


Now show us his lowlights video. :D

Re: Summer League 2015 - Volume II

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 4:01 pm
by WD
I wonder how hurt our 1st round pick is? Gonna take a break and watch Karl Anthony Towns to see his game for the first time.

Re: Summer League 2015 - Volume II

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 4:06 pm
by HIF
WD wrote:I wonder how hurt our 1st round pick is? Gonna take a break and watch Karl Anthony Towns to see his game for the first time.


Did you watch the game?

He played the last minute or so. I'd guess he isn't hurt as much as aching.

Re: Summer League 2015 - Volume II

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 4:22 pm
by RJM
Um, Khem Birch gained a little muscle.

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Re: Summer League 2015 - Volume II

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 4:23 pm
by WD
HIF wrote:
WD wrote:I wonder how hurt our 1st round pick is? Gonna take a break and watch Karl Anthony Towns to see his game for the first time.


Did you watch the game?

He played the last minute or so. I'd guess he isn't hurt as much as aching.

No I didn't see the game

Re: Summer League 2015 - Volume II

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 4:27 pm
by WD
Is there anybody else I'm suppose to be watching besides Towns/Lyle during the Utah/Minny game?

Re: Summer League 2015 - Volume II

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 5:16 pm
by Enso
Didn't see the game but apparently Napier killed it

Re: Summer League 2015 - Volume II

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 5:27 pm
by KingDavid
Winslow is playing through some aches that he also suffered in Duke. He is completely capable of playing through it. It's just strange.

Napier did great. We had a big lead. Unfortunately when he went to the bench, no one knew how to run an offense since TJ was out and Winslow was barely playing. Richardson is not a playmaking PG. That is clear as day. Or maybe he needs more experience running at PG? His defense is outstanding.

I don't take much stock into what 2nd year players do in summer league. Napier should be playing good regardless. Same with TJ. Same with Ennis (he's going to be cut at this rate). Same with Zoran.

Re: Summer League 2015 - Volume II

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 5:30 pm
by MettaWorldPanda
KingDavid wrote:Winslow is playing through some aches that he also suffered in Duke. He is completely capable of playing through it. It's just strange.

Napier did great. We had a big lead. Unfortunately when he went to the bench, no one knew how to run an offense since TJ was out and Winslow was barely playing. Richardson is not a playmaking PG. That is clear as day.

Richardson is a break in case of emergency PG. His natural position is at the two. He needs to study plenty of D Wade tapes. He has proved to the organization that he can at least dribble the ball up court and take his man off the dribble. That's more then you can say about James Ennis.

Re: Summer League 2015 - Volume II

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 5:34 pm
by KingDavid
HIF wrote:
deedsy wrote:[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvMKCXrRi2U[/youtube]


Now show us his lowlights video. :D

There weren't much lowlights from him, if any at all. If he plays like this during the season, yikes. But it's summer league and he's a second year player. I haven't seen anything new or flashes of anything impressive. Take these games with a grain of salt if you aren't already. I only care to watch our rookie.

Re: Summer League 2015 - Volume II

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 5:41 pm
by KingDavid
Panda Friend 51 wrote:
KingDavid wrote:Winslow is playing through some aches that he also suffered in Duke. He is completely capable of playing through it. It's just strange.

Napier did great. We had a big lead. Unfortunately when he went to the bench, no one knew how to run an offense since TJ was out and Winslow was barely playing. Richardson is not a playmaking PG. That is clear as day.

Richardson is a break in case of emergency PG. His natural position is at the two. He needs to study plenty of D Wade tapes. He has proved to the organization that he can at least dribble the ball up court and take his man off the dribble. That's more then you can say about James Ennis.

Nah, he's taking D-leagures and rookies off the dribble. I say he has solid handles at best right now. But he's not finding anyone on anything other than obvious passing angles.

The two things that will translate quickly into the NBA are his shooting and his ridiculous energy and skill on defense. OMG. I want to see what he develops into. I LOVE watching him and Winslow play defense. He needs to play next to Wade or Dragic though. I haven't seen any flashes of his vision like I have seen with Winslow for example.

Re: Summer League 2015 - Volume II

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 5:50 pm
by MettaWorldPanda
KingDavid wrote:
Panda Friend 51 wrote:
KingDavid wrote:Winslow is playing through some aches that he also suffered in Duke. He is completely capable of playing through it. It's just strange.

Napier did great. We had a big lead. Unfortunately when he went to the bench, no one knew how to run an offense since TJ was out and Winslow was barely playing. Richardson is not a playmaking PG. That is clear as day.

Richardson is a break in case of emergency PG. His natural position is at the two. He needs to study plenty of D Wade tapes. He has proved to the organization that he can at least dribble the ball up court and take his man off the dribble. That's more then you can say about James Ennis.

Nah, he's taking D-leagures and rookies off the dribble. I say he has solid handles at best right now. But he's not finding anyone on anything other than obvious passing angles.

The two things that will translate quickly into the NBA are his shooting and his ridiculous energy and skill on defense. OMG. I want to see what he develops into. I LOVE watching him and Winslow play defense. He needs to play next to Wade or Dragic though. I haven't seen any flashes of his vision like I have seen with Winslow for example.

Solid handles once again is more then you can say about James Ennis. Kid is a nice talent with energy for days and defensive stopper capabilities. We needto keep him around and develop him. And no going to Europe. He needs to be on the roster and developed in our D League. If somebody goes down you do not hesitate to call him up.

Re: Summer League 2015 - Volume II

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 6:44 pm
by HIF
Enso wrote:Didn't see the game but apparently Napier killed it


If by "killed it" you mean he wasn't the best PG on the court and we lost our first summer league season - yes.

If you mean was utterly fantastic - No.

He was the best he's played in SL so far though and that's a good sign. He did some very good things and some pretty poor things, especially when he went into hold the ball and play iso offense.

Re: Summer League 2015 - Volume II

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 6:47 pm
by HIF
KingDavid wrote:
HIF wrote:
deedsy wrote:[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvMKCXrRi2U[/youtube]


Now show us his lowlights video. :D

There weren't much lowlights from him, if any at all. If he plays like this during the season, yikes. But it's summer league and he's a second year player. I haven't seen anything new or flashes of anything impressive. Take these games with a grain of salt if you aren't already. I only care to watch our rookie.


I take your point about SL and agree completely.

But there were lowlights.

He didn't pass enough and spent too much time holding the ball and going for the iso charge to the basket which sometimes worked and often didn't. He also had a couple of classic airballs. His defense was better but reaked a little of Rio's Olé defence where he went for steals especially after being blown by.

Re: Summer League 2015 - Volume II

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:15 pm
by Chalm Down
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Re: Summer League 2015 - Volume II

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:16 pm
by Chalm Down
Double post

Re: Summer League 2015 - Volume II

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:51 pm
by Zombiesonics
HIF wrote:
Enso wrote:Didn't see the game but apparently Napier killed it


If by "killed it" you mean he wasn't the best PG on the court and we lost our first summer league season - yes.

If you mean was utterly fantastic - No.

He was the best he's played in SL so far though and that's a good sign. He did some very good things and some pretty poor things, especially when he went into hold the ball and play iso offense.


dude you are insufferable. he was clearly the best PLAYER ON THE FLOOR. jesus christ. napier had problems on defense? well so did freaking mudiay who lost him multiple times. And hey, its just summer league i understand that. But who asks for 'low lights' from the best player on their summer league team? reeks of confirmation bias