QOTD: Trade Whiteside or Keep Him?

[walk with me]

I'm seeing mixed opinions from heat fans. Whats the forum got to say?

[Bourne85]

What is this crap.

Whiteside isn't going anywhere. And the Delusional trade post we see around here are just that DELUSIONS. Whiteside will be here next year on near max salary like it or not.

My guess is 17m per

[walk with me]

What is this crap.

Whiteside isn't going anywhere. And the Delusional trade post we see around here are just that DELUSIONS. Whiteside will be here next year on near max salary like it or not.

My guess is 17m per

crap? is that really how you feel?


so i'm supposed to sit here and just say everything that everyone else says? That's a lot of fun....


This is a legit topic. Who wants a guy that supposedly only plays for stats and doesn't care about helping the team. Especially considering we could possibly get some legit trade value for him.

[Bourne85]

Plays for stats because some random posters say so. Or random tweets. He is doing his job, he is protecting the rim and rebound. Anchoring our defense.

Is he supposed to not block shots or rebound then.

[goodboy]

The 3rd option.

[eddieheatfan]

i'd say keep him and trade the coaching staff instead lulz

[Tony15]

All I know is that you don't let guys like him walk for NOTHING.


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[QUIZ]

His contract is absolutely worthless. Whiteside himself is not worthless but his contract has zero value. No Bird rights mean that anybody who traded for him would need cap space to sign him anyway and they wouldn't even have the advantage of being able to offer more money.

So why would anybody give up major assets just to rent him for a few months? The answer is they wouldn't because it makes no sense.

[jereseja]

His contract is absolutely worthless. Whiteside himself is not worthless but his contract has zero value. No Bird rights mean that anybody who traded for him would need cap space to sign him anyway and they wouldn't even have the advantage of being able to offer more money.

So why would anybody give up major assets just to rent him for a few months? The answer is they wouldn't because it makes no sense.

Its not so simple
I vote 3 but if u are Riley and u are not prepared paying him 80mil for 4 years u have problem and is better to trade him now with MCBob,Dragic,Deng or others becouse if u are not contender why would u lose him for nothing next summer.

[Hoops23]

In spite of what he'd showed lately in games, the way he plays and his character, I'm not yet down with this guy...

Keep Whiteside this season if no favorable deal for Miami or they feel they can resign him.
Signed him in the off-season for reasonable contract, maybe a Draymond Green or Kahwi Leonard like contract.
If he ask for the max and Miami has a better option than him, then thats the time Heat let him walk.

[Chalm Down]

His contract is absolutely worthless. Whiteside himself is not worthless but his contract has zero value. No Bird rights mean that anybody who traded for him would need cap space to sign him anyway and they wouldn't even have the advantage of being able to offer more money.

So why would anybody give up major assets just to rent him for a few months? The answer is they wouldn't because it makes no sense.

Yup. I guess the other team would also get to give Whiteside slightly larger raises for his next contract, but that's (relatively) not much.

Hypothetically, I don't even know what Whiteside's contract is worth right now. Maybe a high 1st/low 2nd rounder?

[El Alonzo scowl]

I voted keep him. Durant is not going to happen. Dragic, Wade, Bosh, Winslow, TJ, Whiteside is a good core to bring back and almost all are tradeable anyway for good players in return if you want to make drastic roster changes.

I wouldn't be mad if we traded him but we'd have to get rid of a bad contract or two as well in that trade. If the decision is to go full smallball with the roster, so be it. But Riley would absolutely have to hit a home run with the trade and get a title out of it. Which he's done before.

[3ballbomber]

I'd like him to be my daughters personal bodyguard. he can protect her and when she's older he can block boys who have interests in dating her

[RexBoyWonder]

1. It's way too soon to make any decision, we need to see how he does, we have a ton of games left + his first playoffs.
2. Even then you don't just "let him walk", you make him a offer you think is fair after considering if you even have better options - and then IF he walks..it is what it is.

[Umbooki]

Whiteside has shown a lot of progress since the first time we called him up, but he's still lacking in two key areas:

A) Shot Selection: He's prone to forcing shots at times. This may be due to the fact that we don't really run plays for him, but there are times where he's trying post moves with 2-3 dudes in his jersey. I can respect the confidence it takes to throw up a shot in that situation, but sometimes a pass is the better option. Maybe we'd see less of this if he got more consistent touches, but it still sucks to see.

B) Post Defense: With the way the league is trending towards smallball, this may be less of a factor in the future, but Whiteside tends to get worked by opposing big men. Drummond exposed the flaw a while back, but the beatdowns by the Lopez twins really drove the point home. As he is right now, Whiteside is too quick to go for the block, and smarter players have started to take advantage of that. All it takes is a pumpfake for Whiteside to leave his feet and either give up an And-1 or a clear path to the basket.

Both issues are things that can be fixed with enough time, but time is a luxury that we don't really have. If we're through with the Whiteside experiment, then Riley has a month to work his Sith Lord shenanigans before the trade deadline. However, if we keep Hassan and manage to retain him in the off-season, we're banking on the fact that he'll:

1) Continue to work on his weaknesses
2) Be more consistent/less moody when things don't work in his favor
3) Be able to remain effective in the Pace-and-Space era of basketball

The more I think about the situation, the more I feel like we were a couple years too late finding Whiteside. Everyone made fun of us because we lacked a Center during the Big 3 era and now that we finally have one, it's no longer the cool thing. It's the school playground all over again, fam. They don't want us to win.

[Heat3]

Voted for keep him then let him walk...meant to vote keep him long term

See no benefit in trading for either us or a team that is acquiring him.
Would rather keep a beast center than be stuck with stiffs like the previous 4-5 years.

[Temuhjan]

I agree with QUIZ: Whiteside's contract is worthless to other teams. Our only choice is to keep him for the remainder of the contract, then hope we can re-sign him at modest terms.

[MettaWorldPanda]

I voted to keep him. Nobody is going to give us anything good for him anyway. Might as well ride it out and hope for the best. The consolation prize if we don't sign him next year is over 37 million dollars in spending money with the renouncement of Wade's overly inflated cap hold. We will no doubt offer him something fair but the max money in other places may be too much for him to turn down. I won't blame him one bit for taking the money either considering the long road he has had to climb.

[lukekarts]

I'd like him to be my daughters personal bodyguard. he can protect her and when she's older he can block boys who have interests in dating her

He can catch all her rebounds too.

Anyway, no reason to trade him, because his contract has no value to the team acquiring it. He is effectively an unrestricted free agent for everyone.

[contract]

I'm seeing mixed opinions from heat fans. Whats the forum got to say?

It depends on what we could get for him. We shouldn't trade him just to trade him.