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article why spo still has his job
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 1:34 am
by eddieheatfan
Re: article why spo still has his job
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 1:58 am
by goodboy
I hate spo as much as the next guy. But seeing how teams fire their coaches left and right each season, kinda proud of us by sticking to our guns.
Disclaimer: Not advocating support for Spo.
Re: article why spo still has his job
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 3:49 am
by Chalm Down
HeatWillRise wrote:But seeing how teams fire their coaches left and right each season, kinda proud of us by sticking to our guns.
Disclaimer: advocating support for Spo.
Jeez, just marry him if you like him so much.
Re: article why spo still has his job
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 3:58 am
by contract
Sticking by a poor choice is nothing to be proud of.
Re: article why spo still has his job
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:13 am
by goodboy
Chalm Down wrote:HeatWillRise wrote:But seeing how teams fire their coaches left and right each season, kinda proud of us by sticking to our guns.
Disclaimer: advocating support for Spo.
Jeez, just marry him if you like him so much.
contract wrote:Sticking by a poor choice is nothing to be proud of.
Kinda
Re: article why spo still has his job
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 5:49 am
by Temuhjan
Although Spo is not quite on the same level as Pops, Carlisle, Kerr, Doc and Budenholzer, he is not half bad either. As long as Thibs is not turning up on our doorstep, I cannot see why we want to remove him in the absence of a better alternative.
Re: article why spo still has his job
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 6:19 am
by Rock Hardy
As Ethan tweeted recently, "because he can coach." Criticisms of his performance have often rung hollow. Mostly it comes down to complaints about substitution patterns, or refusal to play fan favorites that analytics suggest shouldn't be played. See Beasley and now Whiteside.
The truth of the matter is that he's got a lot of respect in the coaching community, and if we ever let him go, he'd be quickly scooped up got another head coaching gig. Then he'd come back and smack us around a few times each year, probably with a younger, healthier roster. No thanks. It's the grass is greener complex that leads to rash decisions and poor results. I don't know what Spo is supposed to have done with the rosters he's had the last two seasons. We've has a couple dumb losses this year, when healthy, but that's going to happen to every team over the course of 82 games. When our guard and power rotations are banged up like they are lately, I'm not sure how we're supposed to win either. Plus, we have no outside shooting in a league migrating to the arc. I don't think the criticism will end anytime soon, but I assume a HoF coach as GM and president is able to understand the circumstances and base his decision on that. We'll see. For now, I just how we can get healthy and back to winning soon.
Re: article why spo still has his job
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 12:00 pm
by unowen85
The only reason coaches of other teams praise Spoelstra is so that Riley sticks with Spo as coach of the Heat. Other coaches know that if they play against Spoelstra, it's an easy win. Wake the **** up, Riley!
Re: article why spo still has his job
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 1:04 pm
by contract
Rock Hardy wrote:As Ethan tweeted recently, "because he can coach."
Available evidence says otherwise. The running joke used to be "how many all stars does Lebron need to win a championship?" ... now it's "how many all stars does Spo need to advance past the 1st round of the playoffs?"
Re: article why spo still has his job
Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 5:12 pm
by Flash4thewin
Rock Hardy wrote:As Ethan tweeted recently, "because he can coach." Criticisms of his performance have often rung hollow. Mostly it comes down to complaints about substitution patterns, or refusal to play fan favorites that analytics suggest shouldn't be played. See Beasley and now Whiteside.
The truth of the matter is that he's got a lot of respect in the coaching community, and if we ever let him go, he'd be quickly scooped up got another head coaching gig. Then he'd come back and smack us around a few times each year, probably with a younger, healthier roster. No thanks. It's the grass is greener complex that leads to rash decisions and poor results. I don't know what Spo is supposed to have done with the rosters he's had the last two seasons. We've has a couple dumb losses this year, when healthy, but that's going to happen to every team over the course of 82 games. When our guard and power rotations are banged up like they are lately, I'm not sure how we're supposed to win either. Plus, we have no outside shooting in a league migrating to the arc. I don't think the criticism will end anytime soon, but I assume a HoF coach as GM and president is able to understand the circumstances and base his decision on that. We'll see. For now, I just how we can get healthy and back to winning soon.
What coach is not respected in the coaching community? Honestly its not the grass is greener its more like reality and looking at his actual performance. Pre Lebron it was hero Ball with Wade. With Lebron and Bosh we underperformed. We won on pure talent not coaching sadly. How many times would Lebron see things and coach the team with Spo saying it was his call then later be questioned about it. ( Our own reports questioned him because they know hes not that good, let that sink in). The simple concept of feeding the hot hand has eluded our head coach for so many years now its like a prideful sign of ignorance. If Spo coached Curry he would watch him hit 4 3pters then sub him out. You know what im even willing to give him a pass on part of this because its not like our coaching staff is that great either. I cant understand why we cant hire the best assistant coaches money can buy to help our coach? The Warriors liked Kerr but surrounded him with some of the best assistant coaches money can buy to make sure he succeeds.
Re: article why spo still has his job
Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 5:19 pm
by Heat3
Can't wait for you all to get your wish. Sound the same as dolphin fans in 1995.
My Sunday's are free now to do what I want thanks to them.
Thanks to the Marlins ownership so is my summer.
Don't fail me now heat fans. I can always use more free time to find new hobbies.
Re: article why spo still has his job
Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 10:14 pm
by Tim_Hardawayy
Heat3 wrote:Can't wait for you all to get your wish. Sound the same as dolphin fans in 1995.
My Sunday's are free now to do what I want thanks to them.
Thanks to the Marlins ownership so is my summer.
Don't fail me now heat fans. I can always use more free time to find new hobbies.
bingo
I guarantee you there isn't a person on this board critical of Spo, who could describe what offensive set we just ran on a play beyond "why is that guy shooting?!" .
Re: article why spo still has his job
Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 10:59 pm
by Heat_Fan_87
He still has a job because the front office isn't run by a bunch of idiots.
Re: article why spo still has his job
Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 1:41 am
by D' Winner Within
unowen85 wrote:The only reason coaches of other teams praise Spoelstra is so that Riley sticks with Spo as coach of the Heat. Other coaches know that if they play against Spoelstra, it's an easy win. Wake the **** up, Riley!
Wake up Riley and come back to coaching!!!!
Re: article why spo still has his job
Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 7:51 am
by Rock Hardy
Flash4thewin wrote:What coach is not respected in the coaching community? Honestly its not the grass is greener its more like reality and looking at his actual performance. Pre Lebron it was hero Ball with Wade. With Lebron and Bosh we underperformed. We won on pure talent not coaching sadly. How many times would Lebron see things and coach the team with Spo saying it was his call then later be questioned about it. ( Our own reports questioned him because they know hes not that good, let that sink in). The simple concept of feeding the hot hand has eluded our head coach for so many years now its like a prideful sign of ignorance. If Spo coached Curry he would watch him hit 4 3pters then sub him out. You know what im even willing to give him a pass on part of this because its not like our coaching staff is that great either. I cant understand why we cant hire the best assistant coaches money can buy to help our coach? The Warriors liked Kerr but surrounded him with some of the best assistant coaches money can buy to make sure he succeeds.
Is any of what you said backed up by...anything? When has Spo ever taken credit for player suggestions? He credited Wade and Lebron before. I've never heard anyone claim that before.
If we won on pure talent, why didn't we win in 2011? How did that offense transform into the ultra efficient best of the next 3 years? Also, why did the best Lebron ever only exist during those seasons? You're seriously going to call it a coincidence?
Underperforming to 4 out of 4 Finals? I'm not sure what you're really expecting from a HC, so whatever. I think we look at the game differently.
Re: article why spo still has his job
Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 7:57 am
by Rock Hardy
contract wrote:Rock Hardy wrote:As Ethan tweeted recently, "because he can coach."
Available evidence says otherwise. The running joke used to be "how many all stars does Lebron need to win a championship?" ... now it's "how many all stars does Spo need to advance past the 1st round of the playoffs?"
What running joke? Fans usually lack perspective. Spurs fans crucified Pop in 2013. Thibs was all but run out of town last year. The grass is always greener on the other side. Given most fans don't understand coaching anyway, it's hard to put much credence into their suggestions. Coaching is more than substitution patterns.
No one finds it absurd to think they can do a better job assessing Spo than Riley? I mean, there's such a thing as taking oneself too seriously, and we often blow past that line in these coaching discussions. Pat fired Stan. He'd fire Spo too when the time came.
Re: article why spo still has his job
Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 3:51 am
by Axel
eddieheatfan wrote:http://www.hothothoops.com/2016/1/23/10821412/why-erik-spoelstra-still-has-a-job-in-miami
like one of the comments said,he sucks
Nepotism.
The article called it "family first" which it is. The Heat are well known for this.
You don't need to be a basketball savant to know why some people receive preferential treatment at work.