Question regarding next year's trade deadline

DanDanE420 · Post #1 » by **DanDanE420** » Wed Jun 1, 2016 9:13 pm

If Chris Bosh isn't cleared, will the Heat be able to take on a max salary at next year's trade deadline?

And if they can, what first round picks can we give up for a player like Melo without violating the Stepien Rule?

eddieheatfan · Post #2 » by **eddieheatfan** » Wed Jun 1, 2016 9:31 pm

DanDanE420 wrote:If Chris Bosh isn't cleared, will the Heat be able to take on a max salary at next year's trade deadline?

And if they can, what first round picks can we give up for a player like Melo without violating the Stepien Rule?

i dont want carmelo on this team.i'd rather have real,confident and athletic shooters

SCHeat · Post #3 » by **SCHeat** » Thu Jun 2, 2016 2:21 am

From what I understand, his salary comes off a year after his last game, which would be February 1

We can't trade a first round pick until the 2023 draft, and I'm not even sure we can do that until next season starts. Here's no rule stopping us from trading draft rights to a player (I.e. Trading them on draft night)

gom · Post #4 » by **gom** » Thu Jun 2, 2016 4:06 am

rio_grande wrote:From what I understand, his salary comes off a year after his last game, which would be February 1

We can't trade a first round pick until the 2023 draft, and I'm not even sure we can do that until next season starts. Here's no rule stopping us from trading draft rights to a player (I.e. Trading them on draft night)

Feb 9 is the date I've heard. We can trade the 2023 pick after July 1. Why in the world would you want Carmelo on the Heat now? Isn't it better to wait for the Knicks to buy him out? Patience.

SCHeat · Post #5 » by **SCHeat** » Thu Jun 2, 2016 10:55 am

gom wrote:
rio_grande wrote:From what I understand, his salary comes off a year after his last game, which would be February 1

We can't trade a first round pick until the 2023 draft, and I'm not even sure we can do that until next season starts. Here's no rule stopping us from trading draft rights to a player (I.e. Trading them on draft night)

Feb 9 is the date I've heard. We can trade the 2023 pick after July 1. Why in the world would you want Carmelo on the Heat now? Isn't it better to wait for the Knicks to buy him out? Patience.

Meant to say Feb 9, thanks for the catch

Agree on Melo. Not sure he's a good fit

Flash4thewin · Post #6 » by **Flash4thewin** » Thu Jun 2, 2016 4:31 pm

Please understand Bosh will do everything in his power to play next season and rightfully so. Granted that said even if Bosh plays one game it keeps his salary on the books for next offseason.... I have a hard time seeing how Bosh doesnt play next season

Maroko · Post #7 » by **Maroko** » Thu Jun 2, 2016 5:52 pm

Flash4thewin wrote:Please understand Bosh will do everything in his power to play next season and rightfully so. Granted that said even if Bosh plays one game it keeps his salary on the books for next offseason.... I have a hard time seeing how Bosh doesnt play next season

Well i am sure the Heat will take every guarantee they can so he can play the whole season including the playoffs.
It will be a disaster (for Bosh first, for the Heat and for us as fans....) if Bosh plays few games and then he had to stop.
I am sure he could have played with us this postseasons but i guess the Heat were defending their interests but also Bosh's health, that's my feeling, i might be wrong. Sorry if it sounds a bit rough...

afour495+ · Post #8 » by **afour495+** » Thu Jun 2, 2016 6:02 pm

If Bosh ends up retiring because of this most recent round of blood clots, will his entire salary come off the books or will a portion of it still count towards the salary cap?

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dancing2thabeet · Post #9 » by **dancing2thabeet** » Thu Jun 2, 2016 9:56 pm

afour495+ wrote:If Bosh ends up retiring because of this most recent round of blood clots, will his entire salary come off the books or will a portion of it still count towards the salary cap?

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I think his salary is off the book exactly 1 year since he played his last game. Or after the full season he misses. Gom?

dancing2thabeet · Post #10 » by **dancing2thabeet** » Thu Jun 2, 2016 10:01 pm

dancing2thabeet wrote:
afour495+ wrote:If Bosh ends up retiring because of this most recent round of blood clots, will his entire salary come off the books or will a portion of it still count towards the salary cap?

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I think his salary is off the book exactly 1 year since he played his last game. Or after the full season he misses. Gom?

Just found this on reddit:

BOSH CAP RAMIFICATIONS
I ran this next item in my Sunday Miami Herald newspaper column on May 8, the day after Game 3 of the Raptors series, and I realized last week I had never placed it on-line in this blog. So here it is, factors to keep in mind regarding Bosh’s impact on the cap:
Chris Bosh intends to play next season and the Heat is cautiously hopeful, though nobody can say for sure that he will be able to. So what’s Miami’s recourse otherwise? There are a few options:
If Bosh and the Heat determine he should not play again, three things are needed for his salary to be removed from Miami’s cap, according to the labor deal: 1) A doctor that is jointly selected by the league and players association must agree his condition is career-ending, or severe enough to put him at risk if he continues playing.
2) The Heat then can apply to exclude his salary from its cap no earlier than the one-year anniversary of his last game (Feb. 9) if he played in 10 games in 2015-16 (which he did). If granted, the salary would be removed immediately, giving Miami an additional $25 million in 2017 free agent cap space or room to acquire an expensive player before next season’s trade deadline without needing to trade salary in return.
3) Miami must waive Bosh. If the salary exclusion is granted, and Bosh changes his mind and decides to resume his career, the Heat cannot re-sign or re-acquire him “at any time” should be continue his career, according to cap expert Larry Coon’s labor agreement summary.
Bosh is due $23.7 million, $25.3 million and $26.8 million the next three seasons and this aforementioned scenario allows for him to continue to be paid while removing his salary from Miami’s cap. Keep is mind there is nothing that can be done with Bosh to create cap space this summer, aside from a highly improbable trade.
If the Heat and Bosh determine that he should sit out next season, but aren’t ready to rule him out for his career, then a physician selected by the league and union must agree that it is “substantially more likely than not that the player would be unable to play through the following June 15.”
Miami then could apply to sign a replacement player through a disabled player’s exception, but that application must be made between July 1 and Jan. 15 and Miami could add only one player, on a one-year deal, for no more than the midlevel exception (which was $5.5 million this season and will increase). And if a team has cap space when it applies, it would count against the cap.
Keep in mind that a team cannot apply for removing the player’s salary from its cap if it has applied for the disabled player’s exception that same year, regardless of whether it was granted or not.
If you missed it over the holiday weekend, please click here for new information on the Bosh idea that the Heat rejected and an update on every Heat free agent.

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Heat03 · Post #11 » by **Heat03** » Sat Jun 4, 2016 1:44 am

What's the chances someone will trade for Bosh if he's done though? Wouldn't really make a difference to me, if it comes to that me might as well try and trade him now.

dancing2thabeet · Post #12 » by **dancing2thabeet** » Sat Jun 4, 2016 10:26 am

Heat03 wrote:What's the chances someone will trade for Bosh if he's done though? Wouldn't really make a difference to me, if it comes to that me might as well try and trade him now.

It's not allowed to trade for a soon-to-be-retired player under the CBA.