He is still having clotting issues, brother its time to spend your time figuring out whats causing these clots. Let basketball go.
A complication has arisen in medical tests involving Heat forward Chris Bosh, derailing his attempted comeback, according to a source.
The complication involved evidence of some continued clotting and is believed to be related to one of two previous blood clot episodes. Those episodes sidelined Bosh after the All-Star break each of the past two seasons.
Though the complication is not considered life-threatening if treated, it requires medication and playing with it is considered unrealistic.
Bosh was diagnosed with a blood clot that traveled from his leg to his lung in February 2015 and was diagnosed with a clot in his calf this past February.
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The Heat had gone into this week expecting to clear Bosh to resume his career this season, according to multiple sources briefed on the situation. But his clearance by the Heat always was contingent on Bosh passing his physical and no issues surfacing during a battery of Heat-administered medical tests this week.
And when an issue arose in blood work this week, the Heat concluded he could not be cleared to return.
Blood clots are gel-like clumps of blood that can be dangerous, potentially life-threatening if not treated quickly with blood thinners or anti-coagulants. There is a risk of playing sports while on blood thinners, because of the potential for bleeding if a player is cut.
The Heat was receptive to allowing Bosh to play while taking a new form of medication that would be out of his system by game time, a regimen used by National Hockey League player Tomas Fleischmann. But that was contingent on Bosh having no red flags in medical tests conducted this week.
Though it’s unclear if Bosh will attempt to play again, he is not expected to file a grievance with the union or push to return in the immediate future, amid this latest setback.
Bosh’s season ended prematurely with blood clots each of the past two seasons, both times at the All-Star break. The first clot, diagnosed in 2015, traveled from his leg to his lung. The second episode, this past February, began with discomfort in his calf.
The Heat has declined to comment about Bosh for the past two months, beyond an Aug. 31 tweet from owner Micky Arison saying he would see Bosh in training camp. Miami opens camp Tuesday in the Bahamas and begins the regular season on Oct. 26 in Orlando.
Bosh, 32, is due $76 million over the next three seasons of his five-year, $118 million contract. And while he is expected to be paid all of that even if he doesn’t play again, there is a mechanism for the Heat to clear his substantial cap hits for the final two seasons of the contract — $25.3 million in 2017-18 and $26.8 million in 2018-19.
The Heat cannot apply to remove Bosh’s salary from its cap until Feb. 9, the anniversary of his last game.
The Heat, at that point, would need to release Bosh, and his remaining salary then would be cleared from Miami’s cap if “a doctor that is jointly selected by the league and players association agree his condition is career-ending, or severe enough to put him at risk if he continues playing,” according to the NBA’s labor agreement.
That cap relief, which now seems likely to be granted, would leave the Heat with about $42 million in salary cap space next summer, with a projected $102 million NBA cap. That figure could rise if forward Josh McRoberts exercises an opt-out next summer or if salary is shed in trades.
If Bosh eventually proves doctors wrong and returns to play, he would not be permitted to play for the Heat.
If he joined another team and played at least 25 games, his salary of $25.3 million in 2017-18 and $26.8 million in 2018-19 would go back on the Heat’s cap.
But that almost assuredly would not happen until the 2017-18 season, if it ever happened at all, meaning the Heat likely would be able to go into free agency next summer without Bosh’s contract on the books.
Bosh’s latest setback would seem to make it less likely that medical clearance would be granted for an eventual return.
Bosh entered the week expecting to be cleared and having no reason to suspect that any issues would surface during blood work. He has been training several times a week in Los Angeles before returning to South Florida last weekend.
He originally planned to participate in Thursday’s conditioning test for the entire Heat roster but did not because he was out of town after learning of the clot.
“Things have changed quite a bit for me, but I’m in good spirits,” Bosh said Wednesday during a Facebook Live broadcast with fans to discuss his documentary “Rebuilt.”
Bosh went on to say Wednesday: “I know things will work out for the best. And really, we’re just in the process of making sure that I can get back on the court.”
Bosh had been upset with the Heat’s handling of his situation, and the relationship between the parties has been strained for months.
Bosh and Heat doctors have not seen eye-to-eye dating to March, when Bosh found a doctor who was receptive to clearing him to play late last season and Heat doctors strongly disagreed.
Bosh said this week that after a blood clot was discovered in his calf two days before the All-Star Game in February, Heat doctors “told me my season is over, my career is probably over… I felt written off… If a doctor tells me this is how it is and I don’t buy that, then I think I have the right to disagree with you.”
Bosh’s résumé is impressive, potentially Hall of Fame worthy, even if he is unable to resume his career. He made 11 All-Star appearances, was named second-team All-NBA once (2007), won two NBA championships (2012) and won three Shooting Stars championships during All-Star weekend (2013-15).
He averaged 19.2 points and 8.5 rebounds in 893 games over 13 seasons.
He spent his first seven seasons with Toronto and the last six with the Heat, where he averaged 18.0 points and 7.3 rebounds, usually serving as the third option when playing alongside LeBron James and Dwyane Wade during the four years of the Big Three era.
His absence, coupled with Wade’s departure to Chicago, leave the Heat without a single player who has appeared in an All-Star game.
Three starters appear set: Hassan Whiteside at center, Goran Dragic at point guard and Justise Winslow at either small forward or power forward.
Dion Waiters is the front-runner to start at shooting guard.
If Bosh had returned this season, Winslow was expected to start at small forward. But he now might be shifted to power forward if the Heat opts for a smaller lineup featuring guards Wayne Elllington or Josh Richardson at small forward.
Richardson is recovering from a knee injury and is expected back very early in the season, at the latest.
The other option is leaving Winslow at small forward and using McRoberts, Derrick Williams or Luke Babbitt at power forward. McRoberts is recovering from a foot injury
"The complication, believed to be in his lung, involved evidence of some continued clotting and is believed to be related to one of two previous blood clot episodes." Those episodes sidelined Bosh after the All-Star break each of the past two seasons.
Re: Bosh Career is over Clots have reoccurred again
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 4:06 pm
by HEATVols865
So, if we waive him, we go out and max out our cap and then he comes back, we would be whatever amount over the cap plus the $25M of Bosh's contract or would we be forced to renounce one of our own contracts?
Cap space now means nothing, the next two FA classes suck ass and those who don't will stay put.
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Re: Bosh Career is over Clots have reoccurred again
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 4:22 pm
by twix2500
HEATlanta wrote:So, if we waive him, we go out and max out our cap and then he comes back, we would be whatever amount over the cap plus the $25M of Bosh's contract or would we be forced to renounce one of our own contracts?
Cap space now means nothing, the next two FA classes suck ass and those who don't will stay put.
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The Heat will likely get a lotto pick next summer, and will try to get Blake Griffin. Dragic, Richardson, Winslow and Whiteside would be look great to who ever lotto pick we have and Blake.
Re: Bosh Career is over Clots Returns
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 4:44 pm
by jwise44
Sucks so bad, can't claim to be a fan of y'all but I like bosh. Sad to see it end this way, but really he has to put family and health first
Sorry heat fans
Re: Bosh Career is over Clots Returns
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 4:51 pm
by contract
Why are we acting as if this wasn't predetermined? We all know the Heat wants to force Bosh into retirement.
Re: Bosh Career is over Clots have reoccurred again
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 4:53 pm
by contract
HEATlanta wrote:So, if we waive him, we go out and max out our cap and then he comes back, we would be whatever amount over the cap plus the $25M of Bosh's contract or would we be forced to renounce one of our own contracts?
Cap space now means nothing, the next two FA classes suck ass and those who don't will stay put.
It shouldn't be an issue if our medical staff says he can't play.
Re: Bosh Career is over Clots Returns
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 4:55 pm
by bondom34
Sorry guys. Never seemed likely he'd be a full go but it really sucks to hear, such an awesome player and good guy too.
Re: Bosh Career is over Clots Returns
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 4:56 pm
by twix2500
contract wrote:Why are we acting as if this wasn't predetermined? We all know the Heat wants to force Bosh into retirement.
Got your conspiracies ready I see.
Re: Bosh Career is over Clots Returns
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 5:01 pm
by Mos_Heat
appreciation thread?
Re: Bosh Career is over Clots Returns
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 5:04 pm
by UD4MVP
contract wrote:Why are we acting as if this wasn't predetermined? We all know the Heat wants to force Bosh into retirement.
This was decided by NBA medical staff in NY. They can't falsify a physical like that. Third clotting incident since 2014 all star break.
Re: Bosh Career is over Clots Returns
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 5:12 pm
by contract
twix2500 wrote:
contract wrote:Why are we acting as if this wasn't predetermined? We all know the Heat wants to force Bosh into retirement.
Got your conspiracies ready I see.
The same one we've all been discussing for months. Or are you new here?
Re: Bosh Career is over Clots Returns
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 5:15 pm
by contract
UD4MVP wrote:
contract wrote:Why are we acting as if this wasn't predetermined? We all know the Heat wants to force Bosh into retirement.
This was decided by NBA medical staff in NY. They can't falsify a physical like that. Third clotting incident since 2014 all star break.
All I see are reports claiming to know things that the team and the league can't comment on.
Re: Bosh Career is over Clots Returns
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 5:18 pm
by Mars
Damn it...
Mars wrote:Sun Jul 24, 2016 10:36 am
Blood clots in back-to-back years, in the exact same month, at the exact same point of the season, after doctors diagnosed you as not carrying the hereditary gene that makes one prone to a recurrence isn't unlucky... it's a pattern.
This now appears to be his third instance of blood clots in the span of 19 months. If true... it's a pattern.
Re: Bosh Career is over Clots Returns
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 5:19 pm
by UD4MVP
contract wrote:
UD4MVP wrote:
contract wrote:Why are we acting as if this wasn't predetermined? We all know the Heat wants to force Bosh into retirement.
This was decided by NBA medical staff in NY. They can't falsify a physical like that. Third clotting incident since 2014 all star break.
All I see are reports claiming to know things that the team and the league can't comment on.
The team just literally commented on the fact he failed his physical, and the most reliable NBA news reporter Woj just said this and I quote
Bosh met with Heat doctors for several days in Miami, and flew to New York mid-week for consultation with NBA physicians once another blood clot appeared to be recurring, league sources said.
So you can't really claim that this was predetermined by the HEAT.
Re: Bosh Career is over Clots Returns
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 5:26 pm
by Heat_Fan_87
So sad. If we were still contending it would hurt so much more tho. Hopefully he can live a long healthy life, but his NBA career is over, at least with miami.
and LOL at some of the morons on here saying this is being done for any reason other than what the doctors are recommending.
Re: Bosh Career is over Clots Returns
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 5:29 pm
by contract
I've seen the reports. Someone is feeding every reporter on the planet the exact same information. If it was coming from Bosh, it would be attributed to someone not named "a source".
The team and league aren't supposed to be commenting, let alone pushing the story. If they are, it's for a reason other than informing the public.
Re: Bosh Career is over Clots Returns
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 5:34 pm
by Shewasfly
I havent read the article yet (cant). Does it actually say it was another clot, where are ppl getting that from? And I hope we're not being too quick to assume Bosh is resigned to his career being over and ready to retire. Him not being able to go for training camp doesnt mean hes done trying to come back period.
Re: Bosh Career is over Clots Returns
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 5:37 pm
by eddieheatfan
darn it that is bad news for everyone.bosh should retire already
Re: Bosh Career is over Clots Returns
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 5:40 pm
by Seabass777
Let's make not this any more complicated that it needs to be.
Bosh took a physical. Physical shows a 3rd blood clot is recurring. Bosh is not cleared to play basketball. Bosh is done with Miami.
I hope he has a good healthy life he has it all.
Re: Bosh Career is over Clots Returns
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 5:40 pm
by SCHeat
UD4MVP wrote:
contract wrote:Why are we acting as if this wasn't predetermined? We all know the Heat wants to force Bosh into retirement.
This was decided by NBA medical staff in NY. They can't falsify a physical like that. Third clotting incident since 2014 all star break.