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Justise Winslow Watch

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2016 9:55 pm
by twix2500
Wanted to create a trend so we can debate and track Justise Winslow development.

For the first 3 games of the preseason here is his average.

8 pts, 42 FG%, 28.6 3pt%, 4.3 rbs, 3 asst, 23.7 mins.

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Re: Justise Winslow Watch

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2016 9:56 pm
by goodboy
Needs more touches.

Re: Justise Winslow Watch

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2016 10:25 pm
by dancing2thabeet
goodboy wrote:Needs more touches.


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Re: Justise Winslow Watch

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2016 10:29 pm
by Bishop45
Track and debate or scrutinize and criticize? From preseason numbers, seems like the latter

Guys are way too critical of a second year player (20 yr old), type of players y'all want him to be didn't develop until a few seasons were under their belt

IMO he's looked just fine outside of some low iq rookie mistakes here and there

Re: Justise Winslow Watch

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2016 11:03 pm
by twix2500
Bishop45 wrote:Track and debate or scrutinize and criticize? From preseason numbers, seems like the latter

Guys are way too critical of a second year player (20 yr old), type of players y'all want him to be didn't develop until a few seasons were under their belt

IMO he's looked just fine outside of some low iq rookie mistakes here and there


No one said anything negative yet. Regardless, he is forbidden to have criticism?

I haven't seen any games yet. So I have no idea why he is struggling thus far. I have a feeling, correct me if Im wrong, he may be too focus on trying to prove he can shoot threes instead of playing his game and letting his shot complement his game.

Re: Justise Winslow Watch

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2016 11:17 pm
by leoshes
Its only preseason. let the actual rotation play, with all the min they will get, & after about 25 games, then we should have a better assessment of his game. Till then im not going to get to high, or to low on how they play. I just want to see them gel for the 1st two month.

Re: Justise Winslow Watch

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2016 11:17 pm
by Bishop45
twix2500 wrote:
Bishop45 wrote:Track and debate or scrutinize and criticize? From preseason numbers, seems like the latter

Guys are way too critical of a second year player (20 yr old), type of players y'all want him to be didn't develop until a few seasons were under their belt

IMO he's looked just fine outside of some low iq rookie mistakes here and there


No one said anything negative yet. Regardless, he is forbidden to have criticism?

I haven't seen any games yet. So I have no idea why he is struggling thus far. I have a feeling, correct me if Im wrong, he may be too focus on trying to prove he can shoot threes instead of playing his game and letting his shot complement his game.


idk, maybe I'm reading into too many things. Winslow Watch does seem a little critical/punitive

Re: Justise Winslow Watch

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2016 11:18 pm
by dancing2thabeet
I hope you guys aren't expecting any significant improvement on the offensive side. Dude was abysmal last year and it's doubtful much has changed in a matter of few months. It's going to be at least a year, if not two, until we see him with a ball in his hands on a regular basis and as a finisher.

Keep that in mind and you won't be dissapointed. His defense is already miles ahead of 90% of wing players. Anything outside fastbreak points is just a bonus.

Re: Justise Winslow Watch

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2016 11:36 pm
by El Alonzo scowl
Gotta admit it's hard to get excited for Winslow this season cause he's basically two different players on offense and defense.
Defense: omg future superstar.
Offense: he's two years away from being two years away.

Re: Justise Winslow Watch

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2016 11:40 pm
by cyclix
2016
ORL Summer League: 4 G | 48% TS | 12-2-2-1 | 14.8 PER
Vegas Summer League: 2 G | 58% TS | 4-2 | -0.2 PER
PRESEASON: 6 G | 40% TS | 6-6-3-1 | 9.6 PER
SEASON: 78 G | 49% TS | 6-5-2-1 | 8.3 PER
PLAYOFFS: 13 G | 52% TS | 7-5-1-1 | 10.4 PER

2017
ORL Summer League: 3 G | 44% TS | 16-4-2-2 | 17.1 PER
PRESEASON (so far): 3 G | 49% TS | 8-4-3 | 9.7 PER

I would wait a bit more for a more accurate evaluation. It seems like he is coming along slowly.

Re: Justise Winslow Watch

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2016 11:41 pm
by twix2500
Where is he shooting 3 from? I have a feeling he sticking to the corner a lot.

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Re: Justise Winslow Watch

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 12:41 am
by Prince Ali
Bishop45 wrote:Track and debate or scrutinize and criticize? From preseason numbers, seems like the latter

Guys are way too critical of a second year player (20 yr old), type of players y'all want him to be didn't develop until a few seasons were under their belt

IMO he's looked just fine outside of some low iq rookie mistakes here and there

it's realgm, which one do you think? the comments in that last preseason game thread were embarrassing.

Re: Justise Winslow Watch

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 1:39 am
by contract
Bishop45 wrote:Track and debate or scrutinize and criticize? From preseason numbers, seems like the latter

Guys are way too critical of a second year player (20 yr old), type of players y'all want him to be didn't develop until a few seasons were under their belt

IMO he's looked just fine outside of some low iq rookie mistakes here and there

I think the issue is some fans expecting him to turn into something he's not. He's never going to be that guy on offense. He's not a primary scorer, or a secondary scorer. He's a guy that hopefully becomes a lockdown defender, and gets points here and there on offense.

That can be a very valuable player as long as he's not totally inept on offense, which he shouldn't be.

Re: Justise Winslow Watch

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 1:47 am
by contract
dancing2thabeet wrote:I hope you guys aren't expecting any significant improvement on the offensive side. Dude was abysmal last year and it's doubtful much has changed in a matter of few months. It's going to be at least a year, if not two, until we see him with a ball in his hands on a regular basis and as a finisher.

Keep that in mind and you won't be dissapointed. His defense is already miles ahead of 90% of wing players. Anything outside fastbreak points is just a bonus.

That's pretty much the way I look at it. With Winslow, defense is the key. For now, and likely permanently. But definitely for now. If he shines there, he's earning his money and justifying his draft slot.

Re: Justise Winslow Watch

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 1:56 am
by cyclix
People are expecting him to be Kawhi, when he is more MKG, which is still a solid starter.

The ones that are criticizing his game are the same ones irritated by the Kawhi, Butler, PG13 comparisons he gets, and objectively see his potential more on MKG level.

Re: Justise Winslow Watch

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 12:24 pm
by contract
cyclix wrote:People are expecting him to be Kawhi, when he is more MKG, which is still a solid starter.

The ones that are criticizing his game are the same ones irritated by the Kawhi, Butler, PG13 comparisons he gets, and objectively see his potential more on MKG level.

Hopefully Winslow will be better than Michael Kidd-Gilchrist ... but yeah, pretty much.

Re: Justise Winslow Watch

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 2:58 pm
by eddieheatfan
needs more sensor beams.he is gotta have to up the ante

Re: Justise Winslow Watch

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 10:45 pm
by Flash4thewin
Justise is a player that if you look at the box score you will feel nothing but disappointment. He is more of a defense player now and we hope he can find better offense. His game now does not show up on a box score. Every player grows at a different pace.

Re: Justise Winslow Watch

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2016 2:53 am
by KingDavid
Idk what happened against the Spurs, but we need more of that from him. Excellent.

Re: Justise Winslow Watch

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2016 3:18 am
by Shewasfly
He's going to prove a lot of people wrong. Amazing that because he's not an instant superstar like Wade you have people putting a very low ceiling on him.