Miami Heat 2016-2017 Regular Season Thread - Sleep On Us

[KingDavid]

Looking at our remaining schedule, it's very likely we miss the playoffs. At that point I ask what was the point of this season? All our last games are against playoff teams and teams fighting with us for the 8th seed. And one is vs the Cavs which most likely will play their guys as they don't have the 1 seed.

Could of had a top 5 pick in a great draft. Now we get a meh of a pick and likely no playoffs.

Now we got Whiteside paid, Tyler paid, now James Johnson and Dion will get paid by us or thanks to us. This some sort of charity we running?

If Waiters is our starting 2guard for over 10mil next year then I'm gonna give up on the Heat til Riley is gone. Remarkable how fast this all fell on his face.

Like you said in the Dion thread, you haven't been watching. If you can't be down if and when the going gets bad, you're a fair-weathering front runner. Still wearing that Curry jersey?

Top 5 pick? How? Tell us how you tell the competitors you put on the floor to suck. The teams that are the bottom 5 are there because they have too many young, underdeveloped, and/or bad players on their teams. Are you suggesting that we trade away our good players for bad players and draft picks so we can tank for a chance at the right guy? Then what? Because once you get your guy, you don't instantly go to the playoffs, you have to climb your way there. So that means we still owe phx 2 first rounders. So instead of drafting more skilled young players to help with the initial lottery pick, we have to ship them to Phoenix. We don't have the assets we want if tanking is the direction.

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[Hallstar]

Looking at our remaining schedule, it's very likely we miss the playoffs. At that point I ask what was the point of this season? All our last games are against playoff teams and teams fighting with us for the 8th seed. And one is vs the Cavs which most likely will play their guys as they don't have the 1 seed.

Could of had a top 5 pick in a great draft. Now we get a meh of a pick and likely no playoffs.

Now we got Whiteside paid, Tyler paid, now James Johnson and Dion will get paid by us or thanks to us. This some sort of charity we running?

If Waiters is our starting 2guard for over 10mil next year then I'm gonna give up on the Heat til Riley is gone. Remarkable how fast this all fell on his face.

Like you said in the Dion thread, you haven't been watching. If you can't be down if and when the going gets bad, you're a fair-weathering front runner. Still wearing that Curry jersey?

Top 5 pick? How? Tell us how you tell the competitors you put on the floor to suck. The teams that are the bottom 5 are there because they have too many young, underdeveloped, and/or bad players on their teams. Are you suggesting that we trade away our good players for bad players and draft picks so we can tank for a chance at the right guy? Then what? Because once you get your guy, you don't instantly go to the playoffs, you have to climb your way there. So that means we still owe phx 2 first rounders. So instead of drafting more skilled young players to help with the initial lottery pick, we have to ship them to Phoenix. We don't have the assets we want if tanking is the direction.

Uh that's why I said tank in this deep draft. Who are these good players we have? We have a solid supporting cast with nobody to support. That's not the type of team you hitch your future to. That's the type of team that you hover around .500 for a couple years sometimes playoffs, sometimes not. Then the players get old and you bottom out right on schedule to give Phoenix a lottery pick while you still haven't found a player worth building around.

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[KingDavid]

Looking at our remaining schedule, it's very likely we miss the playoffs. At that point I ask what was the point of this season? All our last games are against playoff teams and teams fighting with us for the 8th seed. And one is vs the Cavs which most likely will play their guys as they don't have the 1 seed.

Could of had a top 5 pick in a great draft. Now we get a meh of a pick and likely no playoffs.

Now we got Whiteside paid, Tyler paid, now James Johnson and Dion will get paid by us or thanks to us. This some sort of charity we running?

If Waiters is our starting 2guard for over 10mil next year then I'm gonna give up on the Heat til Riley is gone. Remarkable how fast this all fell on his face.

Like you said in the Dion thread, you haven't been watching. If you can't be down if and when the going gets bad, you're a fair-weathering front runner. Still wearing that Curry jersey?

Top 5 pick? How? Tell us how you tell the competitors you put on the floor to suck. The teams that are the bottom 5 are there because they have too many young, underdeveloped, and/or bad players on their teams. Are you suggesting that we trade away our good players for bad players and draft picks so we can tank for a chance at the right guy? Then what? Because once you get your guy, you don't instantly go to the playoffs, you have to climb your way there. So that means we still owe phx 2 first rounders. So instead of drafting more skilled young players to help with the initial lottery pick, we have to ship them to Phoenix. We don't have the assets we want if tanking is the direction.

Uh that's why I said tank in this deep draft. Who are these good players we have? We have a solid supporting cast with nobody to support. That's not the type of team you hitch your future to. That's the type of team that you hover around .500 for a couple years sometimes playoffs, sometimes not. Then the players get old and you bottom out right on schedule to give Phoenix a lottery pick while you still haven't found a player worth building around.

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I didn't quote you, Hallstar. I'm all for tanking. I think I want Fultz more than anyone here. But that was before the team buttoned up their chemistry and identity. So you blow up the treadmill team and instead of building towards a star coming here or trading for one, we have to nasically get rid of any talent we have or else we won't be bad enough to tank. I don't think that's a good idea. If this team as constructed, sucked enough to tank, so be it. But to force it could be worse...

[Hallstar]

Like you said in the Dion thread, you haven't been watching. If you can't be down if and when the going gets bad, you're a fair-weathering front runner. Still wearing that Curry jersey?

Top 5 pick? How? Tell us how you tell the competitors you put on the floor to suck. The teams that are the bottom 5 are there because they have too many young, underdeveloped, and/or bad players on their teams. Are you suggesting that we trade away our good players for bad players and draft picks so we can tank for a chance at the right guy? Then what? Because once you get your guy, you don't instantly go to the playoffs, you have to climb your way there. So that means we still owe phx 2 first rounders. So instead of drafting more skilled young players to help with the initial lottery pick, we have to ship them to Phoenix. We don't have the assets we want if tanking is the direction.

Uh that's why I said tank in this deep draft. Who are these good players we have? We have a solid supporting cast with nobody to support. That's not the type of team you hitch your future to. That's the type of team that you hover around .500 for a couple years sometimes playoffs, sometimes not. Then the players get old and you bottom out right on schedule to give Phoenix a lottery pick while you still haven't found a player worth building around.

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I didn't quote you, Hallstar. I'm all for tanking. I think I want Fultz more than anyone here. But that was before the team buttoned up their chemistry and identity. So you blow up the treadmill team and instead of building towards a star coming here or trading for one, we have to nasically get rid of any talent we have or else we won't be bad enough to tank. I don't think that's a good idea. If this team as constructed, sucked enough to tank, so be it. But to force it could be worse...

I get it, but maybe I bought into the "winning and misery" mindset. Because the worst faith for me is going into every season on some will they won't they about the playoffs until they finally bottom out.

[KingDavid]

Uh that's why I said tank in this deep draft. Who are these good players we have? We have a solid supporting cast with nobody to support. That's not the type of team you hitch your future to. That's the type of team that you hover around .500 for a couple years sometimes playoffs, sometimes not. Then the players get old and you bottom out right on schedule to give Phoenix a lottery pick while you still haven't found a player worth building around.

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I didn't quote you, Hallstar. I'm all for tanking. I think I want Fultz more than anyone here. But that was before the team buttoned up their chemistry and identity. So you blow up the treadmill team and instead of building towards a star coming here or trading for one, we have to nasically get rid of any talent we have or else we won't be bad enough to tank. I don't think that's a good idea. If this team as constructed, sucked enough to tank, so be it. But to force it could be worse...

I get it, but maybe I bought into the "winning and misery" mindset. Because the worst faith for me is going into every season on some will they won't they about the playoffs until they finally bottom out.

It's going be that way until we sign or draft a star player unfortunately. However, this team as constructed and healthy is a top 4 team in the East. If we had a star at sf, fml.

[DayofMourning]

Significant stat of the season:

Miami is 26th out of 30 teams in FTA per game.

Compounding that poor FT draw rate is being 30th out of 30 in FT percentage....

[JaysRule15]

Significant stat of the season:

Miami is 26th out of 30 teams in FTA per game.

Compounding that poor FT draw rate is being 30th out of 30 in FT percentage....

That could work out in the Heat's favor if they make the playoffs. Refs swallow their whistles a lot more often during playoffs, so a FT-reliant team struggles more than a team that doesn't rely on FTs for a big chunk of offense. It's the reason why a guy like DeRozan has struggled in the playoffs.

[DayofMourning]

Significant stat of the season:

Miami is 26th out of 30 teams in FTA per game.

Compounding that poor FT draw rate is being 30th out of 30 in FT percentage....

That could work out in the Heat's favor if they make the playoffs. Refs swallow their whistles a lot more often during playoffs, so a FT-reliant team struggles more than a team that doesn't rely on FTs for a big chunk of offense. It's the reason why a guy like DeRozan has struggled in the playoffs.

Good point. Hope it works in our favor.

[HEATVols865]

Whiteside/Johnson/Hayward/Richardson/Dragic

Reed/Babbitt/Winslow/McRuder/TJ

That's a good team


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[KingDavid]

Significant stat of the season:

Miami is 26th out of 30 teams in FTA per game.

Compounding that poor FT draw rate is being 30th out of 30 in FT percentage....

This is one of the key reasons why we have no chance to win a series if we even make the playoffs.

We also need to fire our free throw coaches to hell.

[KingDavid]

Significant stat of the season:

Miami is 26th out of 30 teams in FTA per game.

Compounding that poor FT draw rate is being 30th out of 30 in FT percentage....

That could work out in the Heat's favor if they make the playoffs. Refs swallow their whistles a lot more often during playoffs, so a FT-reliant team struggles more than a team that doesn't rely on FTs for a big chunk of offense. It's the reason why a guy like DeRozan has struggled in the playoffs.

I don't agree. There's a lot of close games that come down to free throws in the playoffs.

[JaysRule15]

Significant stat of the season:

Miami is 26th out of 30 teams in FTA per game.

Compounding that poor FT draw rate is being 30th out of 30 in FT percentage....

That could work out in the Heat's favor if they make the playoffs. Refs swallow their whistles a lot more often during playoffs, so a FT-reliant team struggles more than a team that doesn't rely on FTs for a big chunk of offense. It's the reason why a guy like DeRozan has struggled in the playoffs.

I don't agree. There's a lot of close games that come down to free throws in the playoffs.

That's true as well. Of course, in a close game, the ability to draw a foul and shoot free throws is valuable as well. I'm just saying that not being an overly reliant team on FTs could have its advantages.

[dshearn]

Looking at our remaining schedule, it's very likely we miss the playoffs. At that point I ask what was the point of this season? All our last games are against playoff teams and teams fighting with us for the 8th seed. And one is vs the Cavs which most likely will play their guys as they don't have the 1 seed.

Could of had a top 5 pick in a great draft. Now we get a meh of a pick and likely no playoffs.

Now we got Whiteside paid, Tyler paid, now James Johnson and Dion will get paid by us or thanks to us. This some sort of charity we running?

If Waiters is our starting 2guard for over 10mil next year then I'm gonna give up on the Heat til Riley is gone. Remarkable how fast this all fell on his face.

Like you said in the Dion thread, you haven't been watching. If you can't be down if and when the going gets bad, you're a fair-weathering front runner. Still wearing that Curry jersey?

Top 5 pick? How? Tell us how you tell the competitors you put on the floor to suck. The teams that are the bottom 5 are there because they have too many young, underdeveloped, and/or bad players on their teams. Are you suggesting that we trade away our good players for bad players and draft picks so we can tank for a chance at the right guy? Then what? Because once you get your guy, you don't instantly go to the playoffs, you have to climb your way there. So that means we still owe phx 2 first rounders. So instead of drafting more skilled young players to help with the initial lottery pick, we have to ship them to Phoenix. We don't have the assets we want if tanking is the direction.

Just to piggy back on this, add in the COY whispers spo got this year... that has value. You want to draft and keep super stars you have to at some point build around them.... The Miami will fight for every possession and does not take games off narrative is strong, it will help attract and keep players. This franchise does not throw games let alone entire seasons is a valuable reputation to build and maintain.

Mia will not always have "The Don" to lay his rings on the table, at some point you need to replace that identity with something else that says we mean bussiness take us seriously. One way to get that is by not having Spo throw entire seasons away to loose only for loosing sake. Before you know it Pop retires and the Media starts talking about Spo as the most winningest coach with his franchise, and stability plus a we win now mentality will have people talking about Spo as one of the best coaches in the game.

[DayofMourning]

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